Tentera Darat Malaysia....The Malaysian Army
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since we always seem to talk abt the units found in singapore....i have decided to start this topic regarding our counterparts across the causeway......pls be considerate to people who actually wanna read this topic and dont start flaming just bcos they are different......please use this topic for general knowledge and not an excuse to start pissing.....maybe u guys who actually crosstrained with them in exercises or anything could provide an input and share ure experiences...
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just some random things i've found on the web....
The TDM mainly comprises of....
1.Infantry Units...
2.Royal Ranger Regiment
3.Royal Armoured Corps
4. Royal Signal Regiment
5. Royal Engineer Regiment
6. Royal Artillery Regiment
7. Special Forces Regiment
8. General Service Corps
9. Royal Medical and Dental Corps
10. Royal Military Police
11. Royal Intelligence Corps
12. Royal Service Corps
13. Royal Ordnance Corps
14. Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers Corps, -
the elite of the Malaysian army comprise of the
1. Rejimen Gerak Khas(also known as Grup Gerak Khas) -
Don't forget that they have paramilitary police forces. Some of the police units are highly trained and are (at least on paper ) the equivalent of our SOF. One such unit is called VAT 69. They were formed in 1969. Don't ask me what VAT stands for. When on holiday in Malaysia, I noticed some police units were "mechanised" ... they had something like the V-100 wheeled armoured vehicles, with GPMG mounted.
From the orbat ... it appears to me that they still retain the British influence ( e.g. Royal something.... and also the way they name their regiments).
Good jungle fighters and many senior officers and NCOs had experience fighting the commies in the border jungle areas in the 70s. Not sure about the younger troops though. -
found an interesting part in their webbie pertaining their salary...all salary in RM..can compare with wat SG officer regulars earn and them...
LeftenanMuda(equivalent to 2nd LT)
920.00 - 1272.00
Imbuhan
Tetap Khidmat
Tentera(i malay also dont understand wat they mean by this...shall abbrev this to TKT)
115.00
Imbuhan
Tetap Perumahan(this one is housing...)
420.00
i shall show the salary of ranks in the above order from this point on...alot to type...
Leftenan(1st LT)
1030.00 - 2369.00
TKT
115.00
Housing
420.00
Kapten(Captain)
1350.00 - 3127.00
TKT
170.00
Housing
450.00
Mejar(Major)
2010.00 - 3342.00
TKT
195.00
Housing
500.00
Leftenan Kolonel(LT COL)
2928.00 - 3994.00
TKT
450.00
Housing
575
Kolonel(COL)
3533.00 - 4380.00
Housing
700.00
Imbuhan
Tetap Keraian(dunno wat is this also..think its bonus or long service thingy..shall call this ITK)
525.00
Brigedier Jeneral(BG)
4017.00 - 5084.00
Housing
900.00
ITK
700.00
Mejar Jeneral(MG)
4980.00 - 6020.00
Housing
1300.00
ITK
2500.00
Leftenan Jeneral(LTG)
5340.00 - 6460.00
Housing
1600.00
ITK
3050.00
Jeneral(Gen)
5880.00 - 7110.00
Housing
2000.00
ITK
4000.00
Panglima Angkatan Tentera(Chief of Army
7200.00 - 9550.00
Housing
2500.00
ITK
5100.00 -
just concentrating on the army for now...Originally posted by specfore:Don't forget that they have paramilitary police forces. Some of the police units are highly trained and are (at least on paper ) the equivalent of our SOF. One such unit is called VAT 69. They were formed in 1969. Don't ask me what VAT stands for. When on holiday in Malaysia, I noticed some police units were "mechanised" ... they had something like the V-100 wheeled armoured vehicles, with GPMG mounted.
From the orbat ... it appears to me that they still retain the British influence ( e.g. Royal something.... and also the way they name their regiments).
Good jungle fighters and many senior officers and NCOs had experience fighting the commies in the border jungle areas in the 70s. Not sure about the younger troops though. -
and now the pay for their men and spec...
Rekrut(recruit)
407.50(elaun)
Prebet(Private)
500.00 - 1079.00
ITK
65.00
Housing
230.00
Lans Koperal(Lance Corporal)
668.00 - 1119.00
ITK
65.00
Housing
230.00
Koperal(Corporal)
720.00 - 1202.00
ITK
65.00
Housing
230.00
Sarjan(Sergeant)
867.00 - 1307.00
ITK
80.00
Housing
275.00
Staf Sarjan(Staff Sergeant)
999.00 - 1397.00
ITK
80.00
Housing
275.00
Pegawai Waran II(2nd Warrant Officer)
1150.00 - 1620.00
ITK
80.00
Housing
300.00
Pegawai Waran I(1st Warrant Officer)
1260.00 - 1797.00
ITK
80.00
Housing
300.00
they still receive some extra pay fine print thingy
Pay and allowance(in malay) -
What makes you think the "rangers" are the elite? Because of the word "rangers"?Originally posted by Rockhound:the elite of the Malaysian army comprise of the
1.Rangers
2. Rejimen Gerak Khas(also known as Grup Gerak Khas)
The Royal Ranger Regiment actually consists of infantry, mechanised infantry battalions and a single airborne infantry battalion.
The ranger title originates from the British colonial days. It is one of the regiments in the MAF that accepts non-Malays.
History -
1941 Sarawak Rangers
reformed as separate military unit
1942 captured by Japanese and disbanded
1948 Iban trackers from Sarawak first employed by British in Malayan Emergency
1953 Sarawak Rangers
re-formed as company from Iban trackers who had been serving with Malayan Scouts
1960 Special Tracker Team
1963 Renjer Malaysia (Rangers Malaysia)
transferred from Sarawak Colony to Malaysian Army, and expanded into multi-battalion, multi-ethnic regiment
1965 The Malaysia Rangers
1971 Rejimen Renjer (The Ranger Regiment)
1992 Rejimen Renjer DiRaja (The Royal Ranger Regiment) -
it was written in a site in malay...elite jungle fighters...considered elite lor....Originally posted by bcoy:What makes you think the "rangers" are the elite? Because of the word "rangers"? -
wanna comment that the TDM..TUDM... TLDM webbies are the most un-user friendly sites i have ever surfed......so i had to go find other sources too....
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oooh...ok...since u had that...i shall edit......thanks.....*thumbs up*Originally posted by bcoy:What makes you think the "rangers" are the elite? Because of the word "rangers"?
The Royal Ranger Regiment actually consists of infantry, mechanised infantry battalions and a single airborne infantry battalion.
The ranger title originates from the British colonial days. It is one of the regiments in the MAF that accepts non-Malays.
History -
1941 Sarawak Rangers
reformed as separate military unit
1942 captured by Japanese and disbanded
1948 Iban trackers from Sarawak first employed by British in Malayan Emergency
1953 Sarawak Rangers
re-formed as company from Iban trackers who had been serving with Malayan Scouts
1960 Special Tracker Team
1963 Renjer Malaysia (Rangers Malaysia)
transferred from Sarawak Colony to Malaysian Army, and expanded into multi-battalion, multi-ethnic regiment
1965 The Malaysia Rangers
1971 Rejimen Renjer (The Ranger Regiment)
1992 Rejimen Renjer DiRaja (The Royal Ranger Regiment) -
is this unit still around?Originally posted by Rockhound:14. Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers Corps,
i remember the REME is the predecessor of the SEME, Singapore Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, which is the predecessor of HQMES.
or something like that. i remember REME fairly well, since i was the one that did the hq mes memorial thingy. -
Originally posted by specfore:
The Royal title does not have as much to do with the British.
From the orbat ... it appears to me that they still retain the British influence ( e.g. Royal something.... and also the way they name their regiments).
It refers more to the fact that the Yang di Pertuan Agong, a.k.a Chief Sultan, is the titular head of state (like our president). -
Any pics or links?
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yeah...malaysia is headed by a monarch.....Originally posted by aerozapper:The Royal title does not have as much to do with the British.
It refers more to the fact that the Yang di Pertuan Agong, a.k.a Chief Sultan, is the titular head of state (like our president). -
just a reminder to all posters, stick the topic . . I don't want to see any anti malaysian postings around here. If anybody tries to start a flame war here, pls pm me, i will attend to his post immediately.
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Don't think we can really compare their pay scales with ours. It was good education to see what pay they are getting... but can't really draw any meaningful conclusions.
SAF is kind of different. We have to attract the regulars who are supposed to provide the trainer cadre and the leadership to the NS men and reservists. So , the pay scales look very good in the SAF. Plus, the fact that S'pore is a high -cost economy, so purchasing power is also a factor.
What about reservists in SAF? Some of us are earning more than what our regular rank in the SAF would pay. If we compare this against their pay scales, can we really say that we are a high salaried armed forces? -
InterestingOriginally posted by nismoS132:is this unit still around?
i remember the REME is the predecessor of the SEME, Singapore Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, which is the predecessor of HQMES.
or something like that. i remember REME fairly well, since i was the one that did the hq mes memorial thingy.
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So I suppose Paskal would be under #7. Special Forces Regiment?Originally posted by Rockhound:just some random things i've found on the web....
The TDM mainly comprises of....
1.Infantry Units...
2.Royal Ranger Regiment
3.Royal Armoured Corps
4. Royal Signal Regiment
5. Royal Engineer Regiment
6. Royal Artillery Regiment
7. Special Forces Regiment
8. General Service Corps
9. Royal Medical and Dental Corps
10. Royal Military Police
11. Royal Intelligence Corps
12. Royal Service Corps
13. Royal Ordnance Corps
14. Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers Corps, -
PASKAL under Navy....hmm...maybe later i(or someone else) will start a TLDM thread...Originally posted by LazerLordz:So I suppose Paskal would be under #7. Special Forces Regiment? -
aiyah...life in singapore more ex....tats y they have to make the pay on par with private sector.......Originally posted by specfore:Don't think we can really compare their pay scales with ours. It was good education to see what pay they are getting... but can't really draw any meaningful conclusions.
SAF is kind of different. We have to attract the regulars who are supposed to provide the trainer cadre and the leadership to the NS men and reservists. So , the pay scales look very good in the SAF. Plus, the fact that S'pore is a high -cost economy, so purchasing power is also a factor.
What about reservists in SAF? Some of us are earning more than what our regular rank in the SAF would pay. If we compare this against their pay scales, can we really say that we are a high salaried armed forces?
wat the malaysian soldiers get each month is pretty reasonable with the cost of living over there..... -
Guys,
This might help you guys - ROY DAVIS LINVILLE JUMPER is a political scientist who is trained in the fields of Comparative Politics, International Relations, and Public Policy. He is the author of two previous books: Orang Asli Now (1999) and Power and Politics (1997).
The Senoi Praaq is a Malaysian special forces unit originally created in 1956 by the British colonial authorities to fight communism during the Malayan Emergency. The term "Senoi Praaq," which roughly translates as "war people," stems from the Semai language and is the basis of a colorful legend in Malaysia. The unit is largely comprised of non-Malay tribal peoples known collectively as the Orang Asli of Peninsular Malaysia. Jumper details Senoi Praaq inception as a private army and its subsequent development into an affiliate of the Royal Malaysian Police (RMP) in this fast paced and often graphic account of irregular warfare as it applies to counterinsurgency.
The unit began as a creature of British Military Intelligence and fought in the deep jungle as Special Air Service (SAS) proteges, eventually replacing the latter upon Malaysian independence from Great Britain. They then served as mercenaries employed by the United States Central Intelligence Agency in Vietnam and later fought on Borneo during Malaysia's own undeclared war with Indonesia. Today the unit remains under arms and heads up a large paramilitary apparatus maintained in conjunction with conventional military forces. Malaysia's capacity to project force throughout South East Asia should not be underestimated, Jumper warns. The Senoi Praaq is a unique fighting force upon which Malaysia may rely to preserve her sovereignty.
** Table of Contents **
-- Glossary
-- Abbreviations
-- Maps
-- Introduction
-- The Political Background
-- The Emergency and the Turn of Events Leading to Formation of the Senoi Praaq
-- The Senoi Praaq Deploys
-- The Senoi Praaq Deploy in Vietnam
-- The Senoi Praaq Stands Down in Vietnam as the Indonesian Crisis Erupts
-- The Indonesian Confrontation on Borneo and its Spread to Penninsular Malaysia
-- Senoi Praaq Rehabilitation
-- Conclusion
-- Sources Consulted -
Unofficial history (true ?):
In the 80s , some Filipino pirates raided a town in Sabah. The Malaysians quietly followed the pirates back to their home base. The MAF then landed quietly and shot up the whole island. All wew killed including women and children. All the bodies were disposed off. When the filipino officials investigated, there we no witnesses.
Peace reigned in the area.......for 20 years until the Abu sayaf gang emerged...lets see if the ASG gets their backsides shot away. -
well thats something new . . . .except if i were the malaysian gov then i wouldn't want to risk having a diplomatic showdown with the philipines by doing thatOriginally posted by Dr Who:Unofficial history (true ?):
In the 80s , some Filipino pirates raided a town in Sabah. The Malaysians quietly followed the pirates back to their home base. The MAF then landed quietly and shot up the whole island. All wew killed including women and children. All the bodies were disposed off. When the filipino officials investigated, there we no witnesses.
Peace reigned in the area.......for 20 years until the Abu sayaf gang emerged...lets see if the ASG gets their backsides shot away. -
Abu Sayyaf vs PASKAL? No chance.