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the thunderbolt II
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ok didn't know you are talking about the cv90120-T, there is a number of variants, have also the cv90105 .Originally posted by CenturionMBT:the cv90 has a 120mm gun . . . . . -
Well we may have to dream on the M8 light tanks, but may not need to dream about the Leclercs ..... shh!!! let not fighten our friend idwar about our Leclercs MBT....Originally posted by LazerLordz:Imagine if we have a M8 Buford derived light tank fleet with another fleet of LeClercs..
Jeez..Some people will be crapping bricks.
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Sorry for the late reply to some forumers here. My dumb dumb P3 pc crashed again yesterday.
What I saw is not a CEV M60 as one friend here mention. I know what is a CEV M60 and a M60 MBT! I, the past 20yrs, had been collecting and build military models of planes/ships/tanks etc etc. Of course with some help of my dear collegue lah. Famous international makers like Tamiya, Dragon have not design and sell any products of our latest BX IFV. Yet some S** top......asked my collegue to design and build one for them to put on display on their office desk for 'show-off' and my collegue did it within 3mths.
Heard of our new MBT?
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hehe wasn't clear abt it.Originally posted by storywolf:ok didn't know you are talking about the cv90120-T, there is a number of variants, have also the cv90105 .
but yeah it had initial problems with the hull. After a few rounds, it cracks.
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idwar, we have got M******! A more improved and mini size design M****** MBT. With a 75MM ( we can reuse all old ammos for AMX13 mah, cut cost! ) and a 7.62mini gun for the Comd, this damn piece of shit can even withstand up to 40MM cannon and some older versions of RPG!
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Oh what the US did was send contractor to get some folks over to teach the thai folks to do wielding to repair the damage, that company did pose the whole trip on the internet, and even talk about the details of their trip there and the training of the thai folks on the wielding repair !Originally posted by CenturionMBT:hehe wasn't clear abt it.
but yeah it had initial problems with the hull. After a few rounds, it cracks.
should be cleared up by now.
After the upgrade version of stingray II came out which is reported a much improved version across the board. -
Originally posted by Manager433:Sorry for the late reply to some forumers here. My dumb dumb P3 pc crashed again yesterday.
.... Yet some S** top......asked my collegue to design and build one for them to put on display on their office desk for 'show-off' and my collegue did it within 3mths.
Heard of our new MBT?
You from Singapore Technologies?
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75mm???Originally posted by Manager433:idwar, we have got M******! A more improved and mini size design M****** MBT. With a 75MM ( we can reuse all old ammos for AMX13 mah, cut cost! ) and a 7.62mini gun for the Comd, this damn piece of shit can even withstand up to 40MM cannon and some older versions of RPG!
Seriously underpower, even with APFSDS. It certainly will not penetrate frontal armour of modern MBTs.
There are now many low recoil guns from 105~120mm for example the CTG 120mm on the CV90120-T, Rheinmetall W&M Rh 120 LLR L/47 tank gun & ThunderboltÂ’s XM291 main gun.
To develop a AFVs which should be in operation for at least 3 decades or more, so to save cost on ammo where the 75mm gun is already considered obsolete is ridiculous.
Only way it is viable is a 75mm gun for fire support and and at least a twin ATGM launcher by the side for anti-tank role.
But with this option, it does not mean it will be cheaper becos of the costly ATGM. And will also likely that it will not carry many rounds/missles as compare to a larger caibre gun tank. -
I like !Originally posted by CenturionMBT:
the thunderbolt II
Think it is a derivative of an M8 And what's up with Manager433 and his rampant letting all sorts of speculative data falling around the floor? LOL. -
Forum lag.Originally posted by LazerLordz:I like ! And what's up with Manager433 and his rampant letting all sorts of speculative data falling around the floor? LOL.
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No.Originally posted by Black Aces:
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I had no doubt the great SAF with the likes of Manager 433 can easily overrun every opposition........ but the question is this: what are you going to do after that? With a few million hostile mats behind your front lines, you think you can sleep in peace?
In any event, consider how perilous your own MINDEF is----300 metres from the Railway line---- everyday your Generals have to pass through a Malaysian checkpoint at the railway gate...........need I say more? you can't even go on red alert without the railway staff knowing that something is amiss.... -
Keep up the wet dreams lah.
Any child will tell you that nowhere in Singapore except for Tanjong Pangar CIQ is the railway guarded by Malaysians... technically any idiot with the right tools can uproot a section of the track and cause a train to derail...
Pass through Malaysian checkpoint to MINDEF? Please lah, I used to live in the Diary Farm area, and everyday I walked across those tracks to school, and have seen neither hair nor hide of a Malaysian (unless an illegal immigrant slipped out of the train)
Same story with the crossing at CCK, and more or less every crossing in Singapore....
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The reason why our checkpoint is now at WoodlandsOriginally posted by Typhoon:(unless an illegal immigrant slipped out of the train) : -
The railway is more of a location for our budding photographers to practice perspective shots.Originally posted by Typhoon:Keep up the wet dreams lah.
Any child will tell you that nowhere in Singapore except for Tanjong Pangar CIQ is the railway guarded by Malaysians... technically any idiot with the right tools can uproot a section of the track and cause a train to derail...
Pass through Malaysian checkpoint to MINDEF? Please lah, I used to live in the Diary Farm area, and everyday I walked across those tracks to school, and have seen neither hair nor hide of a Malaysian (unless an illegal immigrant slipped out of the train)
Same story with the crossing at CCK, and more or less every crossing in Singapore....
Once again, you have demonstrated your ignorance for the entire world to see. -
Ey , no wonder they said you're dumb, they purposely build the HQ and call it HQ...Originally posted by idwar:I had no doubt the great SAF with the likes of Manager 433 can easily overrun every opposition........ but the question is this: what are you going to do after that? With a few million hostile mats behind your front lines, you think you can sleep in peace?
In any event, consider how perilous your own MINDEF is----300 metres from the Railway line---- everyday your Generals have to pass through a Malaysian checkpoint at the railway gate...........need I say more? you can't even go on red alert without the railway staff knowing that something is amiss....
then you believe?
You really think that USA's top leaders stay in white house? stop being an idiot ...
Its made to deceive dumb idiots like you..
Mats? Even Israel can murder blindly in an area of 6 million vs 800 million arabs...
And yet, they do not take any action..against israel.. -
I don't care whether your chinese/malay/indian/american/japanese..
as long as you try to change our way of live by stepping into our ground.
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Tuan Typhoon wrote: Any child will tell you that nowhere in Singapore except for Tanjong Pangar CIQ is the railway guarded by Malaysians...
Tuan, may I ask you who man the railway gates at the railway crossings? Americans ah? Chinkaporeans ah? No lah- all mats and tambis from some small
kampong-farm in Johor.....definately don't stay in dairy farm condo. .....Loyal Malaysians........hehehe -
And??Originally posted by idwar:Tuan Typhoon wrote: Any child will tell you that nowhere in Singapore except for Tanjong Pangar CIQ is the railway guarded by Malaysians...
Tuan, may I ask you who man the railway gates at the railway crossings? Americans ah? Chinkaporeans ah? No lah- all mats and tambis from some small
kampong-farm in Johor.....definately don't stay in dairy farm condo. .....Loyal Malaysians........hehehe
All your buddies right??
We'll take good care of them with this..
We won't bomb our land
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Alamak, .........this one is US reject.........phui.....
I more scared of AMX-13........battle tested.......should prove to be an interesting match for the T-72......hehehe -
As for your other buddies, we'll treat them even well
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At least it made it to the final selection process from what ive heard..Originally posted by idwar:Alamak, .........this one is US reject.........phui.....
I more scared of AMX-13........battle tested.......should prove to be an interesting match for the T-72......hehehe
at least we possess the technical know how to manufacture it..
Once all your military vehicles are destroyed..you will panic and quickly try to import more from Russia..
Once the ship carrying the tanks are imported secretly..arrives near your waters..it will sink before reaching the shore..
we just need to increase production..
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Nvm lah, use your proton car manufacturer to create those proton wiras..put with machine gun on top and try to attack us or best til ..use perodua and put a bomb inside..Use proton saga/waja also not bad lah. But im a little worried though , ive seen so many pictures of car crashes ....can save on bullets,just use the bionix can ram the car the car will fly off..Originally posted by idwar:Alamak, .........this one is US reject.........phui.....
I more scared of AMX-13........battle tested.......should prove to be an interesting match for the T-72......hehehe
From what i know, Singapore always has a backup plan, probably the AMX-13 is for show only..might lies a much more heavier technology overhead..?
Even the helicopters like Apache are more advanced, our jets are also more advanced in comparison, much less our new frigates..why can't our tanks be advanced as well?? -
Come on, guys, the little prick idwar is undergoing puberty.... let's allow him to have his wet dreams..... Must cut him some slack!
idwar boy-boy, the time will come when your voice will break and you are old enough to shave. Until that day comes (we'll all be dead of old age by then), your immaturity and ignorance is seriously cause for laughter.
It does nothing except to help me cope with my exam stress thanks to your laughable antics.
*pats idwar on the head*