Medal of Honour
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Interesting read on the medal of honour
Does the SAF have this?
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think we have the temasek medal or something like that. Anybody care to clarify?
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think this is an equivalent?
Pingat Gagah Perkasa (Tentera)The Conspicuous Gallantry Medal (Mil)
This medal may be awarded to any member of the SAF who has distinguished himself/herself by a heroic act of courage and sacrifice, or for outstanding conduct and performance, and selfless devotion to the service over and above the call of duty.
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i heard of some Medal of Valour that we give out...
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The highest order in Heroism is the 'Star of Temasek'.Originally posted by CenturionMBT:think we have the temasek medal or something like that. Anybody care to clarify?
It is awarded to members from either saf,spf or scdf......
Can check out at a gov webbie -
Every country has a "highest military honor". I just hope that the Star of Temasek and other high medals will only be awarded very, very rarely to maintain their value. The US Congressional Medal of Honor is still awarded very rarely, but the next few medals (Silver Star, Bronze Star) are awarded too easily now.
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to get awarded the medal of honour..once nominated...there'd be a so-called 'devils advocate' overseeing the whole process....just to make sure that the nominee is of 'genuine article'....dunno abt the Stars though...i think that is when the superior recommends and the nominee of watever stars will get it straight without much inquiry by the Pentagon...Originally posted by dkhoo:Every country has a "highest military honor". I just hope that the Star of Temasek and other high medals will only be awarded very, very rarely to maintain their value. The US Congressional Medal of Honor is still awarded very rarely, but the next few medals (Silver Star, Bronze Star) are awarded too easily now.
i wonder if the Star Of Temasek has any recipients.....was it around since WW2? -
MoH is a very nice medal. unfortunately most recipients receive it posthumously...
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Army Sgt. 1st Class Paul Ray Smith credited with protecting the lives of scores of lightly armed American soldiers who were beyond his position in the battle, on April 4, 2003, near the gates of Baghdad International Airport.
On Monday, exactly two years after Smith's death, President Bush awarded him the Medal of Honor, the nation's highest honor for valor.
The other two post-Vietnam Medals of Honor went to Army Master Sgt. Gary I. Gordon and Army Sgt. 1st Class Randall D. Shughart, two Delta Force troopers. More than 3,400 Medals of Honor have been awarded since the decoration was created in 1861, of which more than 600 have been given posthumously. -
Were MSG Gordon and SFC Shugart promoted posthumously?I also recall hearing of a US Army Training Center named after SFC Shugart.Is that true?Originally posted by John Ching:Army Sgt. 1st Class Paul Ray Smith credited with protecting the lives of scores of lightly armed American soldiers who were beyond his position in the battle, on April 4, 2003, near the gates of Baghdad International Airport.
On Monday, exactly two years after Smith's death, President Bush awarded him the Medal of Honor, the nation's highest honor for valor.
The other two post-Vietnam Medals of Honor went to Army Master Sgt. Gary I. Gordon and Army Sgt. 1st Class Randall D. Shughart, two Delta Force troopers. More than 3,400 Medals of Honor have been awarded since the decoration was created in 1861, of which more than 600 have been given posthumously. -
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The promotion is not a must in this case unless they were due for 1. Had they both been alive, wearing the MOH ensures that even BUSH has to give them a salute.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Were MSG Gordon and SFC Shugart promoted posthumously?I also recall hearing of a US Army Training Center named after SFC Shugart.Is that true?
Yes, its true about the naming but I've yet to have a go at the place.
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Since when president of US have to salute MOH recepients.....Originally posted by John Ching:The promotion is not a must in this case unless they were due for 1. Had they both been alive, wearing the MOH ensures that even BUSH has to give them a salute.
Yes, its true about the naming but I've yet to have a go at the place. -
The Star of Temasek was instituted in 1970.
The Badge of the Star of Temasek may be awarded to any member of the Singapore Armed Forces, the Singapore Police Force or the Singapore Civil Defence Force who has performed acts of exceptional courage and skill or exhibited conspicuous devotion to duty in circumstances of extreme danger. The Badge may be awarded posthumously.
The Badge is of silver-gilt. The obverse side of the badge consists of a configured Maltese cross with 4 equal limbs superimposed upon a laurel wreath in green enamel which in turn is superimposed upon 2 crossed swords. The centre of the cross bears a laurel wreath in green enamel encircling a five-pointed star embossed on white enamel. Beneath the laurel wreath is a scroll bearing the inscription "BINTANG TEMASEK". The reverse side of the Badge bears the State Arms.
The Badge is to be worn on the left side of the outer garment suspended from a ribbon. The ribbon is purple in the centre of which is a white band flanked by a narrow white stripe on each side. In the centre of the white band is a red stripe. -
far as i remember, the salute is meant for the medal. not sure about CIC saluting, but true for all other ranks (Os, and Es)Originally posted by kaka_22:Since when president of US have to salute MOH recepients..... -
I see.So they were not promoted huh..Originally posted by John Ching:The promotion is not a must in this case unless they were due for 1. Had they both been alive, wearing the MOH ensures that even BUSH has to give them a salute.
Yes, its true about the naming but I've yet to have a go at the place.
I would think that Bush saluting a MOH recipient is the right thing to do.These people have displayed gallantry of the highest order to the nation. -
Ask me this question again when you've seen a U.S President standing in front of a MOH soldier. The salute from the President is a recognition of what the soldier did for his country.Originally posted by kaka_22:Since when president of US have to salute MOH recepients.....
Btw, are you saying that the Singapore President would, or need, not salute a Singaporean wearing your states version of the MOH recipient?
Do you know that the MOH is the country's highest form of recognition given to men and women who have distinguished themselves in service to their country through active military service?
The President of the United States is also the Commander-in-Chief which automatically means he is part of the U.S military too. And, therefore, has to recognize a MOH recipient with a salute. Unless, of course, he is Bill Clinton. -
everyone salutes them...superiors like generals...Originally posted by kaka_22:Since when president of US have to salute MOH recepients.....
having the MOH warrants a salute by everyone(in the armed forces...president...watsoever).... -
heard from a friend someone in NDU has it...or something like it lah. (maybe its the medal of valour) for courage under fire........during Ops in E. Timor. Believe, dont believe?
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The Star of Temasek has never been awarded. Neither have the next two medals. Therefore, the protocol toward their bearers has not yet been fully established.
I suspect that even if it were not required, the current President would be happy to salute a bearer of the Star. President Nathan is a very humble man in person. He even has standing orders for guests not to rise when he enters as a guest of honour. I am happy to say that starting from Wee Kim Wee, all our presidents have been excellent chaps.
As for the Prime Minister saluting the bearer, that's a different story. However, given that the PM is a former general, and apparently a very caring one toward his men based on personal accounts, I suspect he would also be happy to salute a bearer of the Star. It would be good for morale in any case. SM would also probably be quite OK with saluting. He is not overly concerned with rank and is a nice guy. MM -- totally different story. Nobody can safely predict his actions.
The Medal of Valor has been awarded several times. I think it is the lowest military award for gallantry. The famous COL Lo Yong Poh got one for running around Kabul unarmed negotiating peace between the warlords for the UN, while the city was being heavily shelled by said warlords. Dodged a lot of shrapnel for peace. A few were given to the SOF troopers who resolved the SQ hijacking. A few were given for bravery during the NZ artillery accident, to the surviving gunners who got their injured and dead mates away from the gun and made safe the remaining ammunition -- despite the fact that they were themselves missing limbs or eyes in some cases. Seriously tough -- and they were just NS boys. I think a NZ Army SGT also got the medal in the same incident. There are a few others which I can't remember.
I think that the Medal of Valor is also the highest award given out so far, so MINDEF has high standards. That is a good thing. -
To salute a MOH equivalent is to acknowledge what he or she has done, usually giving his life for the nation.Not to salute such a brave person would simply mean the leader concerned does not deserve the mandate to govern.
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You guys can try contributing to this then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singaporean_orders_and_decorations