Midget submarines for RSN?
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I am thinking about the feasibility of having midget subs for our Navy Divers to carry out covert missions. Firstly,they will greatly increase the mobility and survival rate of the teams. They can be launched from a mother ship(maybe a modified one from our large merchant navy) or from a specially modified Challenger class sub. This way they can be launched further away from the enemy coast,maybe even with the mother ship or sub in the safety of international waters.
The midget sub will also enable them to carry out missions with longer durations and greater flexibility as the teams will arrive at their objective relatively fresh. Additional weapons,ammo,food and water can also be stored in the sub.
The midget sub can even be armed with one or two small torpedoes/mines for covert attack roles or self-defence.
We can disguise them as Deep Sea Rescue Vehicles(DSRV) or rather have DSRV with dual roles during peace time to avoid unnecessary protests from our neighbours. Of course,if the idea is feasible this project should be kept tightly under warps due to its sensitivity.
What are your views on this matter? I am intrested if the RSN have any defences against such threats. I will like to hear from RSN personnel or even better Navy Divers for their comments. Thanks.
Links:
North Korea Naval Midget Submarine
http://www.strange-mecha.com/ship/M-Sub/N-Korea01.htm
WW II German Midget Submarine
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I heard the US got a concept of a small sub coming out from the mother-sub....it's for deployment of commandos and special forces...?
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think so...Originally posted by deathscythe99:I heard the US got a concept of a small sub coming out from the mother-sub....it's for deployment of commandos and special forces...?
but lately there are submarines organic to SEALS rite?....they modified some old models to accomodate SEAL operations...forgot wat class they call these liao....saw an article a year back in navyseals.com...... -
Yes, they are for SEAL teams but from which mother sub i am not very sure. But I did remember reading about the new Seawolf class subs able to accomodate an additional compartment for SEAL teams and special equipment like midget subs in either Popular Mechanics or Popular Science magazines. Anyone can confirm this?
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I think it's a nuclear-powered sub. Those old US subsOriginally posted by Rockhound:think so...
but lately there are submarines organic to SEALS rite?....they modified some old models to accomodate SEAL operations...forgot wat class they call these liao....saw an article a year back in navyseals.com......
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It's either the Los Angeles-Class SSBN or the Virginia-Class.Originally posted by deathscythe99:I think it's a nuclear-powered sub. Those old US subs
I wonder whether the new Seawolf-Class will have this launch and recovery system. -
yeah...they revamped the interior...enlarging the escape compartments and space to keep SEAL equipmentOriginally posted by deathscythe99:I think it's a nuclear-powered sub. Those old US subs -
was like reading Tom Clancy's submarine......seawolf is huge man......Originally posted by LazerLordz:It's either the Los Angeles-Class SSBN or the Virginia-Class.
I wonder whether the new Seawolf-Class will have this launch and recovery system. -
Guys thanks for the info but what about in the case of RSN?
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If RSN is working on something similar, it will be a very hush hush project , which mean nothing will be revealed here.Originally posted by tankee1981:Guys thanks for the info but what about in the case of RSN?
Afterall , we do have 5 subs, 4 upgraded by the Swedish and is used by navy now.
And the last one for spares? training? or some DSTA pet project?
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Would be good, but ....do we have such big sized subs?
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We don't necessarily have to launched the midget sub from a mother sub we can launch from a ship instead. We can modify a civilian commercial ship(maybe we can get the old ships from NOL perhaps) to do the job. This way we can cut cost and at the same time use the commercial nature of the ship as a disguise for its true purpose.
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I'm thinking...why not we get a Minerva or an Archangel which can just stay at the bottom of the ocean
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it's the Ohio SSBN's dudeOriginally posted by LazerLordz:It's either the Los Angeles-Class SSBN or the Virginia-Class.
I wonder whether the new Seawolf-Class will have this launch and recovery system.