Tankees Worst Nightmares !!!
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They should try it on newer tanks.
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er ... ours is not exactly consider new tank
actually hor .. with so many kinds of missiles these days shouldn't they come out with some kind of counter-measures or flares for it? If planes can have counter-measures why not tanks after all even a cheap MBT like T72 still will cost abt 700k USD thats > S$1million, and what abt the not so easy to replace tankees that take stacks and stacks of $$$ and years to train. -
A tankee's worst nightmare is to have a live rat run amok inside the compartment while concentrating on something else.
I am testament to that. -
good what .. free BBQ rat to eat in the field.Originally posted by ditzy:A tankee's worst nightmare is to have a live rat run amok inside the compartment while concentrating on something else. I am testament to that. -
I bbq for you, you eat let me see ok?
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You so scared to even see a rat how you will even dare to touch one let alone bbq for me to eat ha?Originally posted by ditzy:I bbq for you, you eat let me see ok? -
i spoke to a war vet on monday. he was a Bren Gun Carrier driver with the Queen's Royal Regiment. He told me, they'd just done D-Day, stormed up Gold beach, and a column of the BGCs were travelling down thru the Villers Bocage area and he was in the 3rd BCG from the front. They came to a set of crossroads, and then the lead BGC caught an 88mm shell from some german gun. There was a big boom, and the lead BGC simply disappeared, while the rest of them wheeled around and retreated. Later on that day, they'd have to go back and shovel up the chunks of flesh together and leave them at the side of the road for the burial parties coming up behind the advance units. To top it all off, they served stew for dinner that night.
A Bren Gun Carrier:
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Which military show was this?Originally posted by HENG@:i spoke to a war vet on monday. he was a Bren Gun Carrier driver with the Queen's Royal Regiment. He told me, they'd just done D-Day, stormed up Gold beach, and a column of the BGCs were travelling down thru the Villers Bocage area and he was in the 3rd BCG from the front. They came to a set of crossroads, and then the lead BGC caught an 88mm shell from some german gun. There was a big boom, and the lead BGC simply disappeared, while the rest of them wheeled around and retreated. Later on that day, they'd have to go back and shovel up the chunks of flesh together and leave them at the side of the road for the burial parties coming up behind the advance units. To top it all off, they served stew for dinner that night.
A Bren Gun Carrier: -
nah it wasn't a show. they were going some filming at Trafalgar Sq for the veteran's day or something, and I happened to be there. The BGC pic is from some random site on the web.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Which military show was this? -
Funny leh..that's a Javelin missile..and there was nothing left of the tank after the missile hit the tank. In Joint Ops Escalation (FPS game) it takes TWO Javes to destroy a tank?! Alamak...the game is even harder than real life ah?!
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is what shown in the movie , ATGM?
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ya .. totally flattened, I thought ATGM just drill a small hole thru and use propellent to kill occupants inside .... shocking !!!Originally posted by Tango1:Funny leh..that's a Javelin missile..and there was nothing left of the tank after the missile hit the tank. In Joint Ops Escalation (FPS game) it takes TWO Javes to destroy a tank?! Alamak...the game is even harder than real life ah?!
Mebbe 2 Javelins kill a tank is using some kinda TP round for peacetime training mah .. a target like a T72 just for target practice cost a lot of money
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what the purpose of the Bren Gun Carrier? if i'm not wrong, Bren Gun is just a top loading LMG with a 20rds mag.Originally posted by HENG@:i spoke to a war vet on monday. he was a Bren Gun Carrier driver with the Queen's Royal Regiment. He told me, they'd just done D-Day, stormed up Gold beach, and a column of the BGCs were travelling down thru the Villers Bocage area and he was in the 3rd BCG from the front. They came to a set of crossroads, and then the lead BGC caught an 88mm shell from some german gun. There was a big boom, and the lead BGC simply disappeared, while the rest of them wheeled around and retreated. Later on that day, they'd have to go back and shovel up the chunks of flesh together and leave them at the side of the road for the burial parties coming up behind the advance units. To top it all off, they served stew for dinner that night.
A Bren Gun Carrier: -
Service History
The original role envisaged for the Universal Carrier was for a fast, lightly armed vehicle to carry infantry across ground denied by small-arms fire and specifically, the Bren light machine gun and its team, hence the name Bren Gun Carrier. (NB: A broad parallel can be drawn between that concept and the tactics of the APC (Ml l3Al) Troop which carried an In fan try Company. Each infantry section, comprising ten men [one section to a vehicle] possessed a light machine gun crew of three men and a GPMG M60, cal. 7.62 mm).
There was only one version of this vehicle named the "Bren Gun Carrier" but whatever the task, the entire family of vehicles was known by its users as Bren Carriers. In fact, numerous copies of the original Bren Carrier were produced and these were commonly known as the Universal Carrier
The hull of these vehicles comprised a simple steel box with a motor compartment situated in the centre. In front, sat a driver and alongside him, a gunner. A radiator was mounted in a bulkhead between them, and the noise generated by the fan effectively drowned out any conversation between these crew members (NB: vehicles of this type were not fitted with any form of internal communications).
Behind the two crew, were two rectangular compartments, one each side of the engine, these were used to carry a variety of stores and/or personnel.
Loads varied, and it was common to find the Carrier employed in a number of roles e.g. carrying ammunition, infantry support weapons such as medium mortars (81 mm), medium machine guns (usually the .303 Vickers machine gun). They were also used for towing anti-tank guns and trailers.
Because it was fully tracked, it proved to be a reasonably good, cross country vehicle and it was both agile and very fast, for its time. It was controlled by a small steering wheel and steering brakes.
Carriers were used extensively in every campaign during World War II. Such was their versatility, that many of those captured by the German Forces in France during the Blitzkrieg' of 1940 were quickly put to use in patrolling and policing captured territory. -
wa lau, you so fast response liao. you have some super-duper computer at your place is it? or are you the computer?
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im the computer
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i read somewhere that the tank in this video was filled with some explosive to make the effect more spectacular...
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Hollywood mah!Originally posted by sgFish:i read somewhere that the tank in this video was filled with some explosive to make the effect more spectacular... -
The video was shown on TankNet forums before - the tank was filled with explosives to simulate a hit on a tank that was fully loaded with tank rounds stored inside.Originally posted by sgFish:i read somewhere that the tank in this video was filled with some explosive to make the effect more spectacular... -
still, the jav penetrated the armor, well....scary....i can't imagine a TOW if a jav can do this...Originally posted by bcoy:The video was shown on TankNet forums before - the tank was filled with explosives to simulate a hit on a tank that was fully loaded with tank rounds stored inside. -
Vehicle Overturned
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mebbe we shud instead convert some of out M113 carriers and bionix to be ATGM configuration.
If it's to punch thru infantry positions we still have the AMX13, the M113 and Bionix carries the bushmaster cannon also good enough for punching thru infantry.
The M113's or Bionix with ATGM configuration could play a new role as more effective tank hunter killer ambush teams. For example able to deploy 1 or 2 machine gunners, sniper/sharpshooter and a section of infantry .... like what the irregulars did in chechnya.
The M113 will be a good getaway vehicle, a command post to call in arty fire also and a big broomstick for laying down a wall of steel.
The ATGM it carries will "tackle" any MBT that happen to be there.
but to make it even better strap a few foldable bicycles on the side of the vehicle, bicycles are quiet & can do short range recon/sniper missions as well as emergency get away in case M113 gets blown to bits.
Not to mention bicycle can be used for going to nearby sarabat stall to buy teh tarik or kopi. -
get an AMS....Originally posted by KumSioJui:er ... ours is not exactly consider new tank
actually hor .. with so many kinds of missiles these days shouldn't they come out with some kind of counter-measures or flares for it? If planes can have counter-measures why not tanks after all even a cheap MBT like T72 still will cost abt 700k USD thats > S$1million, and what abt the not so easy to replace tankees that take stacks and stacks of $$$ and years to train.
AMS= anti missile system...
or best develop locally...
we got ST technologies wad... -
I have seen old pics of SAF AMX-13 tanks overturned....The commander is literally crushed and twisted in an odd shape....More scary is the thought of overturning into a water body! The pictures are shown to us to warn us to be careful when travelling in uneven terrain,this is because the tank is top heavy, can flip over very easily.