Oh-Oh! :Indonesia - China to develop missiles
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Just read this news at Antara.
Indonesia, China to develop missiles - Antara
JAKARTA, May 17 (Reuters) - Indonesia and China will work together to develop short-range guided missiles as ties between the two large Asian countries warm, the official Antara news agency reported on Tuesday.
Research and Technology Minister Kusmayanto Kadiman, quoted by Antara, said the idea had been around since 2002 but was only made concrete when Chinese President Hu Jintao met President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono in Jakarta last month.
The missile agreement would be signed when Yudhoyono visits China in June or July, Kadiman said, adding that the missiles to be developed with China would have a range of 15-30 km (9-19 miles).
China has one of the most advanced missile programmes in the region.
As part of the plan, Indonesian scientists would be able to dismantle Chinese missiles and study their systems so Indonesia could produce similar missiles, Kadiman said.
Indonesia does not have a major missile programme. The country has also been unable to buy weapons from traditional supplier the United States because of a ban put in place following violence in neighbouring East Timor in the 1990s.
For years, the world's most populous Muslim nation has seen its main enemies as internal, such as separatist movements.
The warming in ties between Indonesia and China follows a long, uneasy history.
Diplomatic ties were broken in 1967 after Jakarta accused Beijing of backing an attempted coup by the Communist Party of Indonesia. In an anti-communist crackdown that followed the coup, hundreds of thousands of people, mainly ethnic Chinese, were killed.
Relations were not restored until 1990, but intermittent violence against Indonesia's ethnic Chinese community, which arouses public anger in China, had made for a brittle friendship.
Indonesia has said Chinese statistics show annual two-way trade at $14 billion while Jakarta puts it at $9 billion.
Given the range, Singapore is within Jakarta's missile range.
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I think it is probably air to air or air to ground missiles given that short range!
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I think the missile could be a scaled down version of KS-1A SAM which Malaysia intended to import from China .
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No lah, not that missile lah..
RI, CHINA TO COOPERATE IN MAKING ROCKETS, SAYS MINISTER
http://www.antara.co.id/en/seenws/index.php?id=3713 -
Originally posted by 38�Ž:
We were rumoured to be buying Block III Patriots or S-3000 ABMs in ADJ.Anyway, if you read US DOD FMS data, we were supposed to have been sold Crotale missiles too.
No lah, not that missile lah..
[b]RI, CHINA TO COOPERATE IN MAKING ROCKETS, SAYS MINISTER
http://www.antara.co.id/en/seenws/index.php?id=3713[/b] -
Strange enough, today’s edition of “ TODAY” also reported this story with the title “ MISSILE PACK IN THE OFFING”.
OMG, those fashionable Newsmen even don’t know the difference between” Rocket” and “ Missile”.
Taking a close look at whatÂ’s new with ChinaÂ’s MLRS, I found the WS-1B in PLA service got such parameters:
Â… The WS-1B rocket with a new high performance rocket motor and warhead, reaches a maximum speed of Mach 5 and maximum flight altitude of 60 km, giving a minimum firing range of 80 km and a maximum firing range of 180 km. The probability deviation is between 1% and 1.5%. The WS-1B rocket is with length 6.182 m, and diameter of 320 mm. The take-off weight is 708 kg with a 150 kg warheadÂ…
Considering the said joint developed “rocket” will have a diameter of around 150mm-250mm, it’s reasonable to have a range of 20 to 30km. -
Indonesia probably using this to entice US to lift the embargo before the defence money goes to China.
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add a guidance system and a rocket becomes a missile . . . . .
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add a gudance system to a rocket and you get a missile . . . .
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add a guided system is still call guided rocket
Plenty of links to demoÂ…
http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/briefs/100702.htm
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele.pl?prod=12129&session=dae.13448819.1116402448.QorzEMOa9dUAAGQsDQ8&modele=jdc_1
Even today's Straits Times made the same mistake -
AKA missileOriginally posted by coolant:add a guided system is still call guided rocket
Plenty of links to demoÂ…
http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/briefs/100702.htm
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele.pl?prod=12129&session=dae.13448819.1116402448.QorzEMOa9dUAAGQsDQ8&modele=jdc_1
Even today's Straits Times made the same mistake
john is also known as jean . . . . .
basicly it is two different names to a single system . . .
a missile is a combination of a propulsion system , a warhead and a guidance system. -
To call it missile, then probably u will use the term “CEP” to evaluate its accuracy, however, even with simple guidance system, people still will not use “CEP”
to represent such rocket's accuracy, but still use artillery terms like” hit probability/ probability derivation etc to measure its accuracy.
That’s reason why worldwide arm suppliers still prefer to call it “guided rocket “ instead of just categorizing it to “ Missile” -
During the Ming Dynasty, Chinese troops under Admiral Cheng Ho (Zeng He) destroyed a Chinese city-state called Palembang in Indonesia.
Look as if history will repeat itself: China destroying a Chinese City-state, (this time called Singapore)..........so that they can please the 200 million natives of Indonesia.
Singapore is expendable in this geo-political game.....so what if the people also claim to be 'chinese'? Palambang was ruled by Chinese in 1400 AD ! If not destroyed, the Chinese palambang kingdom would have had controlled South East Asia !!!!!! Chinese kill Chinese ........hahaha -
LOL,
Now I know whoÂ’s the Bro of IDiot ( Hint: IDw%&).
According to this historian, the prince of Sri Vijaya--Parameswara who ruled Palambang b4 1400AD, and the Javanese army who overturned him and occupied Palambang after 1400AD all are “Chinese”.
Kind advise to this IDiot : go to the nearest hospital immediately or who knows the nxt moment u will shout u r a “Chinese” also.
And then, we will mostly pleasant to KILL -
wonder is it scud missles or some unguided rocket or some hellfire rockets...
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LOL,
Now I know whoÂ’s the Bro of IDiot ( Hint: IDw%&).
According to this historian, the prince of Sri Vijaya--Parameswara who ruled Palambang b4 1400AD, and the Javanese army who overturned him and occupied Palambang after 1400AD all are “Chinese”.
Kind advise to this IDiot : go to the nearest hospital immediately or who knows the nxt moment u will shout u r a “Chinese” also.
And then, we will mostly pleasant to KILL -
Idwar, the topic of the thread is about indonesia and china making a rocket/missile (whatever) together. Not about China attacking singapore, not about chinese killing chinese and not about history. Create a new thread if you want to talk about it. Don't hijack this thread.
