Singapore arms used in foreign armies
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I know Crotian army uses SAR-80 assault rifle, Brunei (maybe) interested to
purchase Bionix IFV, can anyone else mention any Sg weapons and equipment being used by foreign armies, or any SG weapons being evaluate for services...
sar-80 -
there's the ultimax and the SAR-21 i heard US is interested in among others...but probably no sales due to the politics there...Originally posted by Texcoco:I know Crotian army uses SAR-80 assault rifle, Brunei (maybe) interested to
purchase Bionix IFV, can anyone else mention any Sg weapons and equipment being used by foreign armies, or any SG weapons being evaluate for services...
sar-80
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Check out this older thread "Myanmar's locally produced rifle?"
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=125216 -
Here is what I have compiled in the new forum, with the help of other members there, this certainly with lot of info missing, especially some countries was reported to have received arms from us but no detail is given.
I believe what below is just the tip of the iceberg since ST never provide detail abt any arms sales.
Asia
Thailand:
In 1973, 30K M-16 rifles.
3 Prabrarapak class FACs
SAR-80s rifles.
Bofor 40mm L/70
CIS 40mm AGL
Ammunitions: small arms ammo, mortar rounds etc.
Philippines:
Ultimax100 SAW
CIS 40mmAGL
2 Blue Horizon UAV
Refurbishment of 20 UH-1Hs
Ammunitions: small arms ammo, mortar rounds etc.
Indonesia:
Ultimax100 SAW
CIS 40mmAGL
CIS 50HMG
1997 ,4 FH-88s
Upgraded AMX-13s to SM1 standard.
Cambodia:
Armbrust LAW
Myanmar:
Small arms, mortar & even small arms factory?
84mm rockets, Ultimax100 SAW?
Brunei:
3 Waspada class FACs
Papua New Guinea:
Ultimax100 SAW
SR-88
ROC:
Upgrade 6 F-5s to RF-5E.
Fiji:
Ultimax100 SAW( Seen in recent coup)
New Zealand:
Ammunitions: small arms ammo, mortar rounds etc.
Very Small Aperture Terminals(satellite communications system)
Australia:
Ammunitions: small arms ammo, mortar rounds etc.
Pakistan:
?
Sri Lanka:
?
India:
45m Inshore PVs
Spider LSVs
Kuwait:
43m & 49m Landing & supply crafts
United Arab Emirates
Possible sales of Spider LSV
Europe
Turkey:
Upgrade of 48 F-5s with IsraeliÂ’s Elbit
24+400 FH-2000 (Turkey renamed as Panter )
16+300 Firtina SPH based on Korean K9 SPH with a modified FH-2000 gun.
Possible sales of Terrex(Yavuz) & Bronco(Sakarya).
France:
Possible sales of Bronco as mortar carrier.
Finland:
Possible sales of Bronco.
Belgium:
Possible sales of Terrex.
Former Yugoslavia:
Ultimax100 SAW
SAR-80
Armbrust LAW
Africa
Zimbabwe:
?
South Africa:
SAR-80
There are lot of SAR-80 rifles in the black market of Africa, they are found in Somalia and Congo.
South America
Venezuela:
Upgrade of F-5s
Brazil:
Upgrade of 45~60 F-5s with IsraeliÂ’s Elbit
Chile:
Ultimax100 SAW(picture of Chilean soldier with it)
North America
USA:
With USN , came out with Spartan USV.
USN SEAL, Ultimax100 SAW
Overhaul of US Pacific Air force C-130 -
The list show our products are value for money.Fr third to first world countries
they also buy.See our many first in arms in:Our Arsenal --=so many first?
http://military.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=133572
2.Those listed in ST site may not be the latest?The latest would be
embargo for a period of time to prevent copy cat and keep our edge
over others.
3.So ,guys,u are using one of the best,if not the best,weapons,equipments etc.
Dunt complain so much .In elsewhere,u dunt have food to eat in armed force. -
As for value for money/not..im not so sure.Originally posted by lionnoisy:The list show our products are value for money.Fr third to first world countries
they also buy.See our many first in arms in:Our Arsenal --=so many first?
http://military.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=133572
2.Those listed in ST site may not be the latest?The latest would be
embargo for a period of time to prevent copy cat and keep our edge
over others.
3.So ,guys,u are using one of the best,if not the best,weapons,equipments etc.
Dunt complain so much .In elsewhere,u dunt have food to eat in armed force.
What im sure is that , if Singapore's weapons are battle-tested, it could help singapore to market its weapon's to other markets
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Originally posted by gary1910:
Always thought Turkey was Asian rather than Europe.. Mind you, I took part in discussions on why Turkey should remained Asian rather than EU, results was almost unaminous.
Europe
Turkey:
Upgrade of 48 F-5s with IsraeliÂ’s Elbit
24+400 FH-2000 (Turkey renamed as Panter )
16+300 Firtina SPH based on Korean K9 SPH with a modified FH-2000 gun.
Possible sales of Terrex(Yavuz) & Bronco(Sakarya).
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SR-88 is technically SAR-88 -
[quote]Originally posted by gary1910:
Here is what I have compiled in the new forum, with the help of other members there, this certainly with lot of info missing, especially some countries was reported to have received arms from us but no detail is given.
I believe what below is just the tip of the iceberg since ST never provide detail abt any arms sales.
[b]Former Yugoslavia:
Ultimax100 SAW
I've seen it before used in the Balkans before. -
Technically yes, but since she is in Nato so.....Originally posted by baer:Always thought Turkey was Asian rather than Europe.. Mind you, I took part in discussions on why Turkey should remained Asian rather than EU, results was almost unaminous.
SR-88 is technically SAR-88
And there no such thing as SAR-88 , here the proof:
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as57-e.htm
SR-88, AFAIK is actually upgraded version of SAR-80. -
I will be most interested to see if any country is going to buy some SAR21 for their armed forces other than law enforcement organisation. Well Singapore can supply some to Timor Leste I'm sure
One thing though, I have noticed that even SAF anti-terrorist groups seem to be using M16 carbine rather than SAR21. -
SAS has tested our 40mm AGL. May have purchased some... not sure. SEALS have tested our SAW ... quite some time ago, in the early days when SAW was in production. Reportedly, they have purchased some.
Some Scandinavian country has also purchased very small amounts of 40 mm ammo.