Cruise missile--can we cruise?
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The Chinese Taiwan net on June 7 the news already "the official test fire is successful" regarding the Taiwan strong wind cruise missile the report, "Academia Sinica" the public figure low key response, called this missile was this courtyard key project, but because researched and developed still has the bottleneck, at present the progress slightly has backwardness; And this cruise missile firing distance approximately "several hundred kilometers", but is not the unauthorized biography 1,000 kilometers. According to the Hong Kong Da Gong Bao reported that, the strong wind two E cruise missile only takes along carries the conventional warhead, namely the high explosive or 子母 disperses scattering, is not nuclear WMD. It by the small jet engine took the thrust power, the outlook likes a small aircraft, is according to the landform, the grid reference compares to, the whole world locates GPS and the terminal guiding, lets it hit the goal.
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If Taiwan can make Cruise Missile,can Sg make it?
2.My guess is YES!
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With developed SPIKE,and MAV , FANTAIL ,Unmanned Vehicle etc under development,the technology of cruise missile seems not a mission impossible.
Have we involoved in improvement of Barak?The technology seems
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C how u define it, If u refer to the tomahawk style cruise missile, I think Taiwan doesnÂ’t have it yet, the only country in Asia masters the LACM is China, the Chinese DH-10 LACM reported by JaneÂ’s last sept has a minimum range of 1500km and CEP 10 meter, for tomahawk no need say more. But generally speaking, many Anti-ship missiles are considered Cruise missile as well. The HF2E is just an extended range ASM. RSNÂ’s Harpoon also is considered cruise missile if by this kind of definition .
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Harpoon extended the range then becomes SLAM Cruise missile, HF2E followed the same way
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wat is HF2E?
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HF2E is the Taiwanese cruise missile u referred to..
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Hsiung Feng II-E (Brave Wind)
In 2001 it was reported that a land attack cruise missile, designated Hsiung Feng 2E, based on the HF-2, has a range of 1,000km. Though only in its development stages, the HF-2E will be a major advance for Tai-wan. For the first time, Taiwan will be able to attack targets as far away as Shanghai.
On 05 June 2005 it was repoted that Taiwan had successfully test fired its first long range cruise missile. The exact date of the test was unclear, though there was speculation that it may have been in March 2005. The Hsiung Feng cruise missile, developed by the Chungshan Institute of Science and Technology, was reported to have a range of 1,000 kilometers. Defense Minister Lee Jye witnessed the test firing of the missile from Jiupeng / Chiupeng military base in southern Pingtung county. The missile flew more than 500 kilometers before hitting its target.
A small number of the cruise missiles were expected to enter pilot production in late 2005 or early 2006. The Hsiung Feng cruise missile still needs to have its terminal-guidance technology enhanced. Several years may be needed before Taiwan can begin mass production of the missile. Taiwan is striving to build up its capabilities to counter the missile buildup of China, which had targeted the island with at least 700 ballistic missiles by 2005.
From http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/taiwan/hf-2.htm -
Hsiung Feng II-E (Brave Wind)
In 2001 it was reported that a land attack cruise missile, designated Hsiung Feng 2E, based on the HF-2, has a range of 1,000km. Though only in its development stages, the HF-2E will be a major advance for Tai-wan. For the first time, Taiwan will be able to attack targets as far away as Shanghai.
On 05 June 2005 it was repoted that Taiwan had successfully test fired its first long range cruise missile. The exact date of the test was unclear, though there was speculation that it may have been in March 2005. The Hsiung Feng cruise missile, developed by the Chungshan Institute of Science and Technology, was reported to have a range of 1,000 kilometers. Defense Minister Lee Jye witnessed the test firing of the missile from Jiupeng / Chiupeng military base in southern Pingtung county. The missile flew more than 500 kilometers before hitting its target.
A small number of the cruise missiles were expected to enter pilot production in late 2005 or early 2006. The Hsiung Feng cruise missile still needs to have its terminal-guidance technology enhanced. Several years may be needed before Taiwan can begin mass production of the missile. Taiwan is striving to build up its capabilities to counter the missile buildup of China, which had targeted the island with at least 700 ballistic missiles by 2005.
From http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/taiwan/hf-2.htm -
the first "cruise missle" the V-1 buzz bombs flew 60 years ago.
so it is not a matter of building a cruise missle... but to make one that is very:
reliable
carry hi payload
intelligent - terrain avoidance etc
long ranged
accurate -
HF2E 1000km? Not likely, the Taiwan media like the Chinatimes daily already denied this over-estimated range. Saying itÂ’s just several hundreds kms
Also, to achieve 1000km such range, the simple inertial navigation system with GPS midcourse guidance is not sufficient to guide that far( to achieve a decent CEP), still need terrain-contour matching (TERCOM) to assistant the missile on course midway. TERCOM requests digital mapping of the routine that the missile will follow, and then Taiwan possible has to launch Satellite-borne Radars to duly mapping every km of the terrain the missile will fly by and update regularly. A thing which currently China is doing -
That reminds me a saying:
SLAM is the poor nationÂ’s way to own Cruise Missile and
Tomahawk is the rich nationÂ’s way to own Cruise Missile
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and if a nation has both..???Originally posted by coolant:That reminds me a saying:
SLAM is the poor nationÂ’s way to own Cruise Missile and
Tomahawk is the rich nationÂ’s way to own Cruise Missile -
0 + 10000 =10000
Now u got 0 and u also got 10000,
how much u have?
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Our MAV might made her maiden flight in 2004.Read JDW
around Asian Aerospace 2004.
In general.I think the technology of MAV is comparable,
if not more complicated than,to cruise missile.
The word Autonomous speaks volume for the technology involved.
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U should digest what ppl have posted.
Cruise missile is a UAV only with a payload.
U add a payload to MAV, itÂ’s a cruise missile theoretically.
But wat matter is as spencer99 has already pointed:
How good is this Cruise missile?
Cruise missile usually used to destroy high value/highly protected targets, there r still cheaper ways to destroy less or Unprotected targets like a simple air strike.
To suppress such targets tight defense, the cruise missile has to fly low fly in unpredictable paths to optimize surprise, if u still depend on autopilot, most likely ur UAV will hit terrain or be many kms away from the targets even in several hundred kms range.
Flying high enough and at a stable slow speed, then ur UAV is a drone in face of heavy protection firepower.
The GPS+INS is not as rosy as u think for guidance, otherwise, every1 installs gyroscopes + GPS receiver and our world will full of cruise missiles.
We still not touching the small size turbo engine part, DonÂ’t tell me a rocket moto is suitable for long haul CM. u know Taiwan takes how long and how hard to develop a small turbojet for their HF2? -
hmm reuse the engines from F-5E, afterall they are for meant for target drones.
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Install A4 an autopilot, Dismantle some unnecessary stuff, filled with explosive and A4 is no longer as simple as target drone.Originally posted by touchstone_2000:hmm reuse the engines from F-5E, afterall they are for meant for target drones. -
you cracked me up!Originally posted by touchstone_2000:hmm reuse the engines from F-5E, afterall they are for meant for target drones. -
One of the features of cruise missile is terrain avoidance.S Technology
is looking into this.Look at the Annual Report Act 3,pg 45,
fr Report 2002
http://www.stengg.com/AR2002/images/pdf/act3.pdf
What is Launch-and-leave capability?If u cant sleep tonite,think about it.