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You are wrong, if you are Singaporean in the first place, during time at of tension before the war start, you will be recalled.Originally posted by Dr Who:In the ancient days, people kill because they had no choice....cannot run away.
Today we can always run to Australia, USA, China, Batam....if there is a war. Why fight? Only the rich and powerful will gain......you and I get nothing........we only get ourselves hurt so that others get rich........think about it and don't be fooled........don't you think you'll get a better life if you run? I should think so ! Our ancestors ran away from china , right? Now better life here, right?
Second is, no male Singaporean will leave SG becos the govt will not let you leave!!
Next how to have better life when you are stateless and your property are in SG, and your Sing dollar will then be worthless if SG fall!!!
If you are coward , than you should leave SG now, sell your property in SG etc before any possible future conflict, since you are not man enough to protect your country and your family!!!
If you are Malaysian then dun come here & TCSS becos if there is war between SG & MY , & if you are still SG, you will make a perfect human shield or POW( i.e. slaves during the war)!!!
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hi idwar!Originally posted by Dr Who:In the ancient days, people kill because they had no choice....cannot run away.
Today we can always run to Australia, USA, China, Batam....if there is a war. Why fight? Only the rich and powerful will gain......you and I get nothing........we only get ourselves hurt so that others get rich........think about it and don't be fooled........don't you think you'll get a better life if you run? I should think so ! Our ancestors ran away from china , right? Now better life here, right?
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Both sides have good relations to lose it all...Originally posted by SpecOps87:Well,hell I say shoot the enemy.I will do that to him before he does that to me mate.Any of those cocks who attempt to desert in times of war should be shot as to show that cowards are not tolerated in any fighting outfit.SG dun owe us nuts,but we do owe her alot.
No way is anyone gonna step on our soil with military force or force of any kind.We're gonna step on theirs first if we detect the slightest.Btw,to sidetrack alittle..SAF always beliefs in striking first.So what if our neighbour up north decides to monkey,we launch a strike and force our way all the way upwards to Muar.And if they declare that they surrendar,will we return the land we captured or still hold them?Do bare in mind,every inch of land was paid for in the form of blood of our men and women of the various services in the SAF -
the purpose of war is not to die for your country, it is to make the other bastard die for his. In a war, you kill, or be killed.Originally posted by Dr Who:The other day, I saw a motorcyclist lying dead on the road.
i don't think i want to hurt or kill ........even in a war........not after you see a truely dead battered body. If anyone can post a photo of an accident victim, you'll understand what I mean..... -
man my hands are itching for censorship
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Pardon me saying bros, but I seem to have this feeling that this 'Dr Who' is not local, or more precisely he's M'sian.
Why?
He/she tends to brand Singapore as Israel who is out to conquer M'sia, he questions why Sing guys will want to die for this land etc...
Correct me if I'm wrong, this Dr Who bears a uncanny resemblance to Idwar.
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I doubt Dr Who and Idwar are clones. If Dr Who were Malaysian living across the Causeway, he would not know that ITE Simei existed. Even if he did, I doubt he would have any knowledge that the mirrors in the college's five-star lavatories were being vandalised.Originally posted by Black Aces:Correct me if I'm wrong, this Dr Who bears a uncanny resemblance to Idwar.
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i didnt know about the vandalism in simei ITE... does that mean i am not singaporean?Originally posted by iveco:I doubt Dr Who and Idwar are clones. If Dr Who were Malaysian living across the Causeway, he would not know that ITE Simei existed. Even if he did, I doubt he would have any knowledge that the mirrors in the college's five-star lavatories were being vandalised.
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Nope.Idwar has more intellect disguised as incompetence.Dr Who lacks subtlety associated with intelligence.He speaks like a person who has read Tim Huxley, Gavin Menzies, ADJ, Sina.com forums and has mixed up each and every source and their respective outcomes.Originally posted by Black Aces:Pardon me saying bros, but I seem to have this feeling that this 'Dr Who' is not local, or more precisely he's M'sian.
Why?
He/she tends to brand Singapore as Israel who is out to conquer M'sia, he questions why Sing guys will want to die for this land etc...
Correct me if I'm wrong, this Dr Who bears a uncanny resemblance to Idwar.
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Ai-yah, I am Sinagporean, lah.
Peranakan also.
You can also see my religious posts in Eternal Hope.
Just because I advocate pacificism does not mean I am not patriotic.
I believe there are better ways to settle conflict then by force of arms.
Can you win hearts and minds after shooting and killing their love ones?
However, i believe in executing JI terrorists who does not deserve to be treated as human beings.
As regards to our closest neighbour, I believe the way should be a way of peace and cooperation. When our ancestors came to this land, they were not chased away by the natives......the chinese actually took over the riches of the land.... we should be gracious to the natives.
(Look at Philippines-30,000 Chinese killed 200 years ago....Look at Indonesia-hundreds of Chinese girls raped as weapon of terror by army elements in Jakata a few years ago......these are our real potential enemies.....not the malaysians, who are our flesh and blood.) -
aiyoh.. how can you say that?Originally posted by Dr Who:Ai-yah, I am Sinagporean, lah.
Peranakan also.
You can also see my religious posts in Eternal Hope.
Just because I advocate pacificism does not mean I am not patriotic.
I believe there are better ways to settle conflict then by force of arms.
Can you win hearts and minds after shooting and killing their love ones?
However, i believe in executing JI terrorists who does not deserve to be treated as human beings.
As regards to our closest neighbour, I believe the way should be a way of peace and cooperation. When our ancestors came to this land, they were not chased away by the natives......the chinese actually took over the riches of the land.... we should be gracious to the natives.
(Look at Philippines-30,000 Chinese killed 200 years ago....Look at Indonesia-hundreds of Chinese girls raped as weapon of terror by army elements in Jakata a few years ago......these are our real potential enemies.....not the malaysians, who are our flesh and blood.)
you forgot malaysia also kill alot of chinese in 1969 leh... so how? -
In 1969 Malaysian May 13 riots, the killings were due to a Victory parade organised by the Opposition parties. During this parade, chinese hotheads did misbehave and threatened the Malay hold to power........in response, Chief minister Harun organised a gathering of UMNO supporters who ran amock, attacking all the Chinese they encountered when they streamed out of Harun's house.
Chinese gangsters retaliated by attacking innocent malays........ The army was called in when the Police lost control......The situation became worse when the Malay Regiment started to shoot at Chinese and ignored the malays.....
The authorities recognised the problem and quickly replaced the Malay Regiment with the Sarawak Rangers....The rangers, being natives of sarawak, were more impartial and put a stop to the riots. Officially 198 people lost their lives. Unofficial estimates put the toll at 4000.
This is a small incident compared with what happened in Indonesia/Philippines... -
God is fair and the punishment will be dealt out...
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whats the same between a pot and a kettle? yup... both are black...Originally posted by Dr Who:In 1969 Malaysian May 13 riots, the killings were due to a Victory parade organised by the Opposition parties. During this parade, chinese hotheads did misbehave and threatened the Malay hold to power........in response, Chief minister Harun organised a gathering of UMNO supporters who ran amock, attacking all the Chinese they encountered when they streamed out of Harun's house.
Chinese gangsters retaliated by attacking innocent malays........ The army was called in when the Police lost control......The situation became worse when the Malay Regiment started to shoot at Chinese and ignored the malays.....
The authorities recognised the problem and quickly replaced the Malay Regiment with the Sarawak Rangers....The rangers, being natives of sarawak, were more impartial and put a stop to the riots. Officially 198 people lost their lives. Unofficial estimates put the toll at 4000.
This is a small incident compared with what happened in Indonesia/Philippines... -
I am poor, so I can't run to australia, usa..... i have to stay for my families are here, and i am counting on fellow singaporean who can't or don't run to fight with me to protect our families.Originally posted by Dr Who:In the ancient days, people kill because they had no choice....cannot run away.
Today we can always run to Australia, USA, China, Batam....if there is a war. Why fight? Only the rich and powerful will gain......you and I get nothing........we only get ourselves hurt so that others get rich........think about it and don't be fooled........don't you think you'll get a better life if you run? I should think so ! Our ancestors ran away from china , right? Now better life here, right?
you call yrself singaporean, like one of us, but you are here because you want to make all the money you can or else i see no reason why you want to stay around.
If you want to run, better run now, migrate to another country, you have my blessing. when war starts, if you run, you better be old man, young children or women whom we send overseas for safety; if not, and if you run, to me that is betrayal and you are a traitor, I will shoot you, you can take it to the bank!! -
I remember a report in the Star in 2002 said communists may have been involved.Originally posted by Dr Who:In 1969 Malaysian May 13 riots, the killings were due to a Victory parade organised by the Opposition parties. During this parade, chinese hotheads did misbehave and threatened the Malay hold to power........in response, Chief minister Harun organised a gathering of UMNO supporters who ran amock, attacking all the Chinese they encountered when they streamed out of Harun's house.
Chinese gangsters retaliated by attacking innocent malays........ The army was called in when the Police lost control......The situation became worse when the Malay Regiment started to shoot at Chinese and ignored the malays.....
The authorities recognised the problem and quickly replaced the Malay Regiment with the Sarawak Rangers....The rangers, being natives of sarawak, were more impartial and put a stop to the riots. Officially 198 people lost their lives. Unofficial estimates put the toll at 4000.
This is a small incident compared with what happened in Indonesia/Philippines... -
I will only defend this land when there are things still worthy of defence.If my family is safely ensconced overseas, my place will be with them.Family before state is my belief.It all boils down to what we are defending, a regime or a country.The lines are very blurred these days.Originally posted by sgdiehard:I am poor, so I can't run to australia, usa..... i have to stay for my families are here, and i am counting on fellow singaporean who can't or don't run to fight with me to protect our families.
you call yrself singaporean, like one of us, but you are here because you want to make all the money you can or else i see no reason why you want to stay around.
If you want to run, better run now, migrate to another country, you have my blessing. when war starts, if you run, you better be old man, young children or women whom we send overseas for safety; if not, and if you run, to me that is betrayal and you are a traitor, I will shoot you, you can take it to the bank!!
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The most important thing about singapore is not the assets , but the people.
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I will only defend this land when there are things still worthy of defence.If my family is safely ensconced overseas, my place will be with them.Family before state is my belief.It all boils down to what we are defending, a regime or a country.The lines are very blurred these days.
It seems your family is the only thing worthy of your defence contribution. What about your colleagues, friends, relatives? Forgetting about any sense of national identity or pride (the govt is not equal to the nation), what about your assets here, assuming you do have some assets in savings, CPF, property, etc? I'm sure these count for something.
Slam me if you wish.I have served my time and I have seen things you might have not seen.
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omfg dats the most humane words ive heard from uOriginally posted by SMAPLionHeart:The most important thing about singapore is not the assets , but the people. -
In my country I have my family, my friends and my physical belongings.Originally posted by LazerLordz:I will only defend this land when there are things still worthy of defence.If my family is safely ensconced overseas, my place will be with them.Family before state is my belief.It all boils down to what we are defending, a regime or a country.The lines are very blurred these days.
Slam me if you wish.I have served my time and I have seen things you might have not seen.
If my family is safely overseas, I would still stay here to fight because my family would be coming back here. I still have my investment here which i want to claim after the war. I would stay to fight with my fellow countrymen for many among them are my friends, put it another way, most of my friends are here. I am very sure about the lines on where I would be putting my life.
The situation is not so complicated to require a normal citizen like me to choose between betraying my friends and country for the love of my family. Of course, it is always good to know that my family is in safe place in time of war, it does not need I need to leave with them.
I don't know what you have seen and you don't know what I have seen, and surely you don't know what i have not seen. what is important is whether you can be counted on to stand along your friends in time of difficulties. If you leave when the war breaks out, because you family is "safely ensconced overseas" , then you are no different from those rich and powerful.
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I will never die for these two bastards. All the dogs in the world can die for them for all I care.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Sharing the same plane with LHL, GCT?? -
by the same measure.. if i see your family got run over by a car... since they are not my family... i should just walk on and pretend i never see anything lah...Originally posted by LazerLordz:I will only defend this land when there are things still worthy of defence.If my family is safely ensconced overseas, my place will be with them.Family before state is my belief.It all boils down to what we are defending, a regime or a country.The lines are very blurred these days.
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what if one day, by fate... they came to your assistance? are you gonna accept?Originally posted by iveco:I will never die for these two bastards. All the dogs in the world can die for them for all I care.