What's this attached to the SP howitzer? (Not SAF)
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Or rather: what's this that the SP howitzer is attached to? -
what the.... lol
imagine driving that into battle
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Looks like one of those test firing chambers, but if you asked me, frankly, it looks like a .......
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wat is the sources?when?
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is that for real?
it looks like our manhood... -
That is a German silencer for 155mm artillery. It is not meant to be used in combat. It is used during gun testing to avoid annoying nearby civilians, and to reduce the chance of hearing damage for the testers.
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i was from artillery.
frankly i cannot stand the noise.
impressed with those taiwanese obasan standing just beside the gun selling drinks to SAF soldiers while they fire live rounds. -
this is really eye-opening, never knew that a silencer actually exists for arty. even if it was only for tests.
i still remember how i was shocked when asked to pull-through the 52-caliber fh2000 with oil.( was a fresh OETI trainee then), told ourselves what a huge 5-piece rod(actually 7 piece). We were thinking if we need to pull-thru everynite before sending arms in unit life. (such silly thoughts as a new bird) -
I feel you. The 25mm one is enough to knock the socks off me.
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i wonder how long the SP commander is gonna take to plug that small barrel of his into that big big so called silencer.
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Live fire M-16 without earplugs is already very deafening. I once forgot my earplugs and after just the first target I was practicallly deaf.
I threw a handgrenade during BMT and that was pretty damn loud.
I don't know if in war time we'd be wearing earplugs or not. Even at outdoor range it is so deafening can you imagine in FIBUA?
I was once near a M113 firing blanks from the .50 at Sungei Gedong and I thought that was pretty noisy. The M113 itself was pretty noisy engine and tracks sounds etc.
Of course the howitzers are the king of noise but even so-called "recoiless" rifles are very loud.
During battalion live fire the people to avoid are the 84mm RR guys. That is one loud SOB. The ground shakes when that thing fire. I pity the 84 guys.
And the the worst is the now obsolete 106mm RR used to be mounted on jeeps. I saw one live fire demo on video and it looked like the jeep jumped up when the gun fired and there was a big backblast of dust. I imagine the noise must be tremendous. -
I forgot to put ear plugs when I went for section l/f once. I thought i was going to die right there from the noise. OMFG, every time I squeezed the trigger, BING! the sound just resonated to my eardrums, and it was not only from my rifle. I made it out alive, but that night, I was sure I was going to go deaf the next day.
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The 84rr is ground shaking, but the feeling of a little backblast even thru your boots, is something unforgettable.
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when the whole battalion fires (about 12-16 155 howitzer guns) together the feeling is like the sound actually shoots through your heart. i remember vivdly the ducks all jumping after the shot.
frankly i dont like the feeling.
imagine the taiwanese villagers bearing with the noise pollution of our live-firing for so many years. -
I heard you 155 boys fired on a few TW villages some time back. True? or urban legend? Another was that there was a big gangfight at a place in Kaoshiung called "dixiajie" - underground street - between SAF and local "tai-bao" during which the place caught fire and burned. True?Originally posted by dragg:when the whole battalion fires (about 12-16 155 howitzer guns) together the feeling is like the sound actually shoots through your heart. i remember vivdly the ducks all jumping after the shot.
frankly i dont like the feeling.
imagine the taiwanese villagers bearing with the noise pollution of our live-firing for so many years.
When I was there during NSF, we got into a small scuffle with local people during R&R in Kaoshiung. We were quickly outnumbered and made a quick withdrawal under harrassing fire. -
they are all true.
though i was never involved. -
Another question is whether the new 155 - including the SP - do they have a three-round burst capability or is it my imagination?
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hm... this pic reminds me of male's sexual organ
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the 3 round burst capability on the FH2000 is because of the flick rammer.Originally posted by tvdog:Another question is whether the new 155 - including the SP - do they have a three-round burst capability or is it my imagination?
If the incorporate it on the LWHS or the R**** , sure it'll have 3 round burst firing. -
I'm sorry, just to be clear: the FH2000 is capable of 3-round burst, true?Originally posted by Moonstriker:the 3 round burst capability on the FH2000 is because of the flick rammer.
If the incorporate it on the LWHS or the R**** , sure it'll have 3 round burst firing.
What about the new Primus SP?
And question for dragg or any arty guys out there:
I can roughly imagine how useful if the initial burst is 3-round burst cos you'll catch the most people not yet taken cover. But is this 3-round burst something that is sustained or are subsequent fire single shots only?
Are there any tricks to the firing pattern you can share if they are not classified?
For example, would you guys like cease fire for maybe 10 minutes so the enemy think it's safe to come out and then you let go again. Sorry, very amatuer scenario.
And what kind of shells do you use for what situations? Example when do you use air-burst, delay fuse, WP etc...?
Am interested cos arty kills the most people in modern wars. -
arty have to shoot and scoot.......enemy can track your location down within minutes(or is it seconds) after you fire the first round by radar, just the same way as we tracking the location of enemy arty.
of course there are many other senarios........ -
You mean the LamPardZee?Originally posted by elektra:hm... this pic reminds me of male's sexual organ -
FH2000: 3 rounds in 20 seconds / 6 rounds in 1 min depends on operational requirements and crew capability.Originally posted by tvdog:I'm sorry, just to be clear: the FH2000 is capable of 3-round burst, true?
What about the new Primus SP?
And question for dragg or any arty guys out there:
I can roughly imagine how useful if the initial burst is 3-round burst cos you'll catch the most people not yet taken cover. But is this 3-round burst something that is sustained or are subsequent fire single shots only?
Are there any tricks to the firing pattern you can share if they are not classified?
For example, would you guys like cease fire for maybe 10 minutes so the enemy think it's safe to come out and then you let go again. Sorry, very amatuer scenario.
And what kind of shells do you use for what situations? Example when do you use air-burst, delay fuse, WP etc...?
Am interested cos arty kills the most people in modern wars.
Shoot and scoot.
Look up the defence watch videos on www.mindef.gov.sg if i remember correctly, there's one with the FH2000 live firing -
there is a need for some rest after a slavo(3-round burst),, i forget the timing but the purpose is to make sure that the barrel does not overheat, anyway there is a temperture reading of the barrel displayed.