Re: Bayonets ?
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They could always use their longswords they bought from LOTR shows
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LOTR shows? Err..long swords are a bit too bulky right?
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Well,i cannot agree that when the order comes to fix bayonets,the men receiving the order are extremely psyched up and ready to go, and are like a living,walking bunch of taut steel wires which will snap and attack with all out furry when the call is issued.
Having an enemy charging you with an edged weapon is totally different from being shot at behind cover and having enemy pop up,shoot and scoot sorta thing.It realli shows the resolve of the foes man. Even US troopers armed with carbines get to retain their bayonets and even fix them on their weapons. Hmmz,but I have yet to see an M203 fixed with a bayonet.Any pics of one with a bayonet fixed?Thanks in advance -
Really? And how easy was it for you to remove that small black rubber band and then draw the bayonet? I think unless if we were about to engage in open warfare anything that makes a weopon harder to draw (bayonet included) is going to be discarded in double quick time.Originally posted by towkay168:The only reason why you secure the Black String through the Bayonnet is because someone is afriad that you'll drop it during training.
When you turn Ops, you secure the Bayonnet differently using Black Rubber Bands and it can be drawn relatively easily. Anyways, that's what my unit practices.
Infantry will seldom attack without some prior indirect fire, Inf mostly used to Comb and Mop up. Thus, in such Situation, how will the bayonnet be employed? use Bayonnet to check if Enemy is really dead right? (not sure, than stab stab abit, confirm dead or not.)
Anyways, Soldiers nowadays are trained not to just go for the Final "Chargggeee! and Overrun Enemy. They are taughtt to Engage Accurately from afar, Moving Fwd only to maintain the initiative and get a better Field of Fire. (yah, now no more like last time, Overrun Trench than Umpire say "Trench Clear". )
That said, A Knife is always useful, but not necessarily have to be Bayonnet. Why? only Bayonnet can use to clear mine ah? My Mother's Skewing Knife also can you know.....
Get something like a Kabaar also good, Better to open durains, if have to prod for mines also can use. hahahaha
Btw, infantry is not just use for "comb and mop up". Dunno what unit you were in, or how the heck they train you. I'm starting to guess you weren't in any infantry or gaurds unit.
But yes, I think if given a choice, most everyone would rather get a better combat knife than the rather blunt bayonet we are issued with now. -
"moral-boosting"?? I'd think most people if they knew that they had to fight that close in, would be quaking in their boots.Originally posted by Obersturmfuhrer:I think one should not underestimate the moral-boosting effect when told to "fix bayonets".
Charging into the teeth of the enemy's defense is not something most people would take as "fun" nor "uplifting". -
Usually when told to fix bayonets, it usually means its a last stand. Either you fight for your lives or you just lie down and wait for it to come.
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Please read my post on page 6 regarding today's modern bayonet.Originally posted by insouciant:I think unless if we were about to engage in open warfare anything that makes a weopon harder to draw (bayonet included) is going to be discarded in double quick time.
But yes, I think if given a choice, most everyone would rather get a better combat knife than the rather blunt bayonet we are issued with now.
Most modern bayonets including those used by US, UK, Russia and China are knife bayonets. Meaning they are not the blunt stabbing instrument that we were issued. -
I completely agree.Originally posted by Obersturmfuhrer:Usually when told to fix bayonets, it usually means its a last stand. Either you fight for your lives or you just lie down and wait for it to come.
It either means you are charging the enemy, or it's your last stand. Sometimes it means both.