well if they get close enough before engagement actually begins, they could negate the americans' BVR superiority and maybe get a few IR missile shots off? just a thoughtOriginally posted by 38�Ž:Sorry, can't understand malay
But TNI's F16A/B without AMRAAM how to match those F18C birds with AIM-120?![]()
If the F18C's pilot let TNIÂ’s F16A get close enough, then IÂ’m pretty sure the guy will face military discipline afterwards even he wins the doggy fighting.Originally posted by sgFish:well if they get close enough before engagement actually begins, they could negate the americans' BVR superiority and maybe get a few IR missile shots off? just a thought![]()
Indonesia only has a handful of F-16s operational.Originally posted by sgFish:well if they get close enough before engagement actually begins, they could negate the americans' BVR superiority and maybe get a few IR missile shots off? just a thought![]()
in today's world , no one dogfights.Originally posted by 38�Ž:If the F18C's pilot let TNI’s F16A get close enough, then I’m pretty sure the guy will face military discipline afterwards even he wins the doggy fighting.
The F18C can see F16A 1st, can shoot it 1st while still let it close enoughÂ…![]()
Ok sorry my bad.... I've always thought that Tiger II == Freedom Fighter... the way Viper == Fighting Falcon.Originally posted by sgFish:F-5A/B = freedom fighter
F-5E/F/S/T = Tiger II
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Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:in today's world , no one dogfights.
given the strict ROEs present in limited intensity conflicts (which are getting more and more prevalent over full scale ones) or peacetime (eg. this situation), i would beg to differOriginally posted by SMAPLionHeart:in today's world , no one dogfights.
The F-5s seem more dedicated to ground-attack, that's what I can see. Few AFs actually use the F-5 to dog-fight, in fact the F-5As were use almost completely in ground-attack roles right from the combat debut in Vietnam and from what I can see, it fought with distinction, with only 12 shot down.Originally posted by Delta 5:Are our F-5S/T true multirole fighters?
They can be armed with AGM-65B missiles and Mk 80 series bombs even before the upgrade but now are they wired to carry more advanced PGMs such as the AGM-65G, Longshot and Paveway II/III?
Anyone has any idea?![]()
The F/A-18 having 2 engines would have an advantage at high altitudes, where the air is thinnerOriginally posted by Delta 5:Overall the F-16 Viper is a better dogfighter over the F/A-18 Hornet, especially the latest Block 40/50/60 versions.
However I heard that the F/A-18 has an advantage over the F-16 in certain conditions... Anyone knows?
wont the fact that the F/A-18 has 2 engines cause it to burn fuel at a higher rate?Originally posted by Shotgun:however, the advantage, if u choose to call it that, is probably that the hornet can stay in a fight longer than the F-16. Both full and without external fuel tanks, (Jettisoned anyway before dogfights), the F-16 carries only 2/3 of what the hornet can carry. Hence, if the viper is unable to win a quick one, its ability to survive the confrontation would soon diminish.