Malaysia's Astro2 a threat?
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with singapore's airspace , all they have to do is to get a rather decent radar and then they can monitor the entire airspace of singapore liao. AEW is for them to monitor the northern and eastern part of their territory as well as the strait of malacca and south china sea.
AEW is not god , it can be trick. Remember how the israelis strike iraq's nuclear facilities right under the nose of the american Awacs and yet successfully delievered the package without be detected . -
By flying at extremely low alttitude?
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yah....at tree top level.
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can also hide in the radar cross section of some legal plane such that your own plane's radar cross section is not seen. .. very old and many-times-tested method. . .also works for a submarine when it gets close up behind an enemy ship such that the sound of the enemy ship's prop covers up the noise of the sub. . .these are very common methods. . .
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Unless they have pulse dopper radar...
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Well we don't know if these "tricks" will work as advertised or not. Its a gamble. The only way to beat this thing is stealth or massive jamming. OR, some really long range-high altitude SAM.
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Soon to manufacture in Malaysia,
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A few pointers:Originally posted by CenturionMBT:MALAYSIAN ARMED FORCES ORBAT 2003
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MALAYSIAN ARMY
ACTIVE:80,000 MEN
ACTIVE RESERVE: 60,000 MEN
PARAMILITARY UNITS:25,000 POLICE FIELD FORCE (2,000 SOF)
HOMEGUARDS(RELA):300,000 ARMED WITH SHOTGUN/M16
26 STANDARD INFANTRY BATT,3 AIRBORNE,3 MECHANISED,3 ARMOUR,5 ARTY (3 LLAD),3 SPECIAL FORCES REGIMENTS.
ARMOUR:
62 X PT 91M(T72M1Z) MBT (TO BE DELIVERED+ ARV,AVLB)
25 X SCORPION 90
164 X SIBMAS 90 AFSV
211 X ADNAN AIFV (ARMED WITH 25MM BUSHMASTER)
111 X MIFV (MODERNISED KOREAN KIFV)
450 X RADPANZER CONDOR (SOME ARMED WITH 20MM)
25 X STORMER APC(SOME ARMED WITH 20MM)
70 X HARIMAU 2000 SCOUT CAR
ARTY:
18 X KERIS (ASTROS II) 300MM MLRS
22 X DENEL G5 MK 3 155 MM HOWITZER
15 X VSEL FH 70 155 MM HOWITZER
120 X OTO MELARA 105 MM PACK HOWITZER
24 X OERLINKON 35 MM TWIN
24 X BOFORS 40 MM L/70
AIR DEFENCE MISSILES:
12 X JERNAS (ON ORDER)
500 X SHORTS STARBURST(MOST WITH LML LAUNCHERS)
200 X ANZA MK II
100 X SA 16 IGLA
ANTI TANK WEAPONS:
BHAKTAR SHIKAN (TOW LIKE ) ATGW
METIS -M ATGW
ERYX ATGW
BOFORS AT4
C90 RRB
CARL GUSTAV 84 MM
M 40 106MM RR
RADARS:
GIRAFFE AIR DEFENCE
SKYGUARD
ARTHUR ARTY LOCATING RADAR
2 TYPES OF TACTICAL BRIDGE MLC 90 FROM UK /FRANCE
ROYAL MALAYSIAN AIR FORCE:
15 X MIG 29N
2 X NIG 29NUB
8 X FA 18D
10 X F5E (R)
3 X F5F(R)
2 X RF 5E TIGEREYE
17 X HAWK 208
8 X HAWK 108
30 X A4 PTM SKYHAWK (R)
6 X MB 339AM
8 X PC 7 MK II
36 X PC 7
20 X MD3-160 AEROTIGA
8 X C130H-30
2 X C 130H
4 X KC 130H
6 X CN 235-220M
4 X B200T MPA
8 X CESSNA 402B
1 X GLOBAL EXPRESS
1 X REGIONAL JET VIP
1 X FALCON 900B
1 X FOKKER F 28-1000 VIP
3 X EAGLE ARV LONG RANGE UAV
28 X SIKORSKY S61A4
2 X AS 61N1
1 X A109C
RMAF HAS APP 3 PROVOS/INFANTRY BATT-WITH 1 SOF BATT.
ROYAL MALAYSIAN NAVY:
2 X LEKIU CLASS FFG(VLSEAWOLF,MM40,LYNX 300)
2 X KASTURI CLASS FF(MM40,ASRL,HELOS)
4 X LAKSAMANA CLASS CORVETTE(ASPIDE SAM,OTOMAT)
1 X RAHMAT FF (104MM,40MM,ASRL,HELOS)
1 X HANG TUAH FF-TRAINING
2 X OPV (100MM,30MM TWIN,HELOS)
6 X NGPV(BUILDING-VLSAM,MM40,LYNX 300)
4 X SPICA M FAC(MM3
4 X HANDALAN CLASS FAC (MM3
20 X KERIS CLASS PATROL BOATS
2 X SCORPENE CLASS SSK(ON ORDER-SM 39)
1 X AGOSTA 70B TRAINING(SM 39 MISSILES)
2 X MPCSS MAHAWANGSA CLASS COMMAND SUPPORT SHIPS
1 X NEWPORT CLASS LST
4 X MAHAMERU CLASS MCMV
20 X LIGHT SUPPORT VESSEL EG-LCP
6 X SUPER LYNX 300 ARMED WITH SEA SKUA
6 S AS 555N FENNEC
RMN HAS ABOUT 1000 NAVAL COMMANDOS -PASKAL
WEAPONS TO BE PURCHASED IN THE NEXT 2-5 YEARS.
24-36 X FA 18F/SU 30MKM
4 X ERIEYE AEW/C
24 X EH 101M
12 X HAWK 208
12 X MEDIUM RANGE SAM LIKE SA 11
ANOTHER 22 NGPV
MORE 155MM,MLRS ,TANKS.
I am impressed by the large "numbers" of AFVs that they have. Do we really have so many Spikes to go around???
Does the (R) means that the planes are in Reserve? A4s and F5s
I think their Air Force and Navy are logistics nightmares! So many different types?
I didn't know they have a KC-130 as well. Can the KC-130 refuel
"Russian" a/c like the Mig -29?
Overal I am impressed. The MAF is not really a dead duck like what I assumed it to be. At least on paper.
Thanks CenturionMBT. Mind quoting the source? -
Looks like the MAF doesn't believe in Mortars.
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I didn't know they have a KC-130 as well. Can the KC-130 refuel
We have KC-130..or you can call it C-130T A-A refueling aircraft.
"Russian" a/c like the Mig -29?
they were modified from PC-130 (C-130MP) maritme patrol a/c.
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Not a lot la, the last count we have 1200 odd M113A1/A2 hulls (mostly ex US stockpile stock bought @ dirt cheap price & still in usable condition), half already converted to the local "Ultra standard".
Not to mention other APC/AFV like V150/V200, Bionix which can easily add up a figure of another 600
So you should ask do they have enough AT weaponary to take out the numereous APC/AFV.
BTW to take out an APC/AFV, a humble armbrust will do the job
Originally posted by spencer99:A few pointers:
I am impressed by the large "numbers" of AFVs that they have. Do we really have so many Spikes to go around??? -
Originally posted by Innocent_Malaysian:
Hmm. I wonder whether they modified the Mig-29 to fit Western refuelling nozzle or do they have seperate nozzles,one for MiG29, the other for the F18s, A4s and F5. Does the Hawk 200 have a-a refuelling capabilities. I don't think so.
We have KC-130..or you can call it C-130T A-A refueling aircraft.
they were modified from PC-130 (C-130MP) maritme patrol a/c.
and they [b]can refuel russian a/c like the MiG-29N[/b]
Yeah, Singapore have a lot of armour also.Sometimes I wonder where we store everything.
Hope that they are all safe and dispersed.
Can someone come up with a Singapore OrBAT?
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I say we use ICBMs or Multi Re-entry Missles.
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The IFR probes for the migs are russian.Originally posted by spencer99:Hmm. I wonder whether they modified the Mig-29 to fit Western refuelling nozzle or do they have seperate nozzles,one for MiG29, the other for the F18s, A4s and F5. Does the Hawk 200 have a-a refuelling capabilities. I don't think so.
Yeah, Singapore have a lot of armour also.Sometimes I wonder where we store everything. Hope that they are all safe and dispersed.
Can someone come up with a Singapore OrBAT?
all of the IFR probes come from their respective countries.
hawk mk208 do have IFR capability. 100% sure.
lookie here for a picture of RMAF Hawk with IFR
http://www.geocities.com/impreza_buff/profiles/combat/hawk_200.html
(it is the first picture)
This would be good proof that our hawks have IFR.