Should the Navy have Marines or Marines like training?
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I wish to discuss that whether the RSN should have Marines(Maybe small in number) or have its personnel undergo some Marines like training so to make them more versatile?
I know that most Naval personnel who are on board ships need to use physical much as the Navy is more system trained, but I would like to see the Navy becoming a superb force which are capable of performing the current duties and responsibilities while also have the abilities to perform Marines like operations -
There is something known as guards.
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3rd guards....
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i tot Guards are heli-borne?
Isn't their operations quite different from the Marines? -
My meaning of giving Naval personnel Marines like training is training the Naval personnel to be tougher physically and mentally... As far as I know, Naval personnel other than divers are more system or technically trained rather than physical as in the army..
My wish is to make Naval personnel into Superb men of brawn and brains... So we can fight on land and in the seas...
Since Singapore are expriencing lower birth rates and we need people to work outside to support the economy, why not implement this method so can achieve a stronger military where personnel are superb in many ways??
Btw I haven went through NS, but I would like to join the Navy if it's implemented -
heliborn and amphibious.so they are something like marinesOriginally posted by Arena:i tot Guards are heli-borne?
Isn't their operations quite different from the Marines? -
1st guards are more towards heliborne ops.
3rd guards are more "marine" as they are trained more towards
marine ops.
they train alongside the navy. -
There are 2 tpye of guards, one is the "Fencer" and the other is the "boxer" .Originally posted by Arena:i tot Guards are heli-borne?
Isn't their operations quite different from the Marines?
Fencer specialise more on amphibious ops while Boxer more on helibrone ops. -
Originally posted by Arena:
wah... people currently serving NS in the Navy will hate u for making such remarks...
My meaning of giving Naval personnel Marines like training is training the Naval personnel to be tougher physically and mentally... As far as I know, Naval personnel other than divers are more system or technically trained rather than physical as in the army..
but i agree... its true... they're quite "nua"... some would argue of course, that there's no need for them all to be beefcakes... they need brains, not brawns on board a ship.
there's ultimately no need actually... why would u send sailors to fight on the shore? RSN ships are also highly automated so there really aren't a lot of men on the ships...
My wish is to make Naval personnel into Superb men of brawn and brains... So we can fight on land and in the seas...
Since Singapore are expriencing lower birth rates and we need people to work outside to support the economy, why not implement this method so can achieve a stronger military where personnel are superb in many ways??
Btw I haven went through NS, but I would like to join the Navy if it's implemented
and u don't actually get a stronger army that way... u'll be wasting valuable time over 2.5 years training men to do things they won't ever need to do...
the 2.5 years is spent training men to know how to do what they are assigned to do VERY WELL... this is especially important on a ship where technical profiency is paramount. -
does da US Navy have such training too?
don't think so....rite? -
The SAF had trained some troops in ampb. tactics before. If anybody remembers seeing the AMX10s in the SAF open house, well, those were the vehicles bought just for this purpose; ampb. assault. But do have to stress the people trained on these vehicles are not pure marines in any form, just more "specialized".
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The strategy of the navy is to shoot a missile over the horizon way b4 they can be seen. We don't board ship, we sink them. Should the need ever arise to board/takeover a ship, I'm sure the air-bone guy will do better than us. Who's going to operate the ship while we are gone? We just make sure they are in good working condition and execute them when the time comes.
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anyway, having an additional combat component in the navy may make us look too hostile. The NDU guys will do just fine. They are basically the same just the name sound a bit nicer.
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yah, heard something like that before, but what about the 2nd Guards??? since there are three of them. . .Originally posted by foga:1st guards are more towards heliborne ops.
3rd guards are more "marine" as they are trained more towards
marine ops.
they train alongside the navy. -
i would prefer a force that is all-rounder
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all rounder?? that means one unit that bao ka liao, or a force formed out of many units, each one specialising in something different?Originally posted by sgboy2004:i would prefer a force that is all-rounder -
hmmm... never heared about the 2nd guards.. anyone here in guards who's willing to enlight us?
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2 guards close shop long ago already.Originally posted by laser51088:yah, heard something like that before, but what about the 2nd Guards??? since there are three of them. . . -
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There are no intakes for 2nd Guards for nearly 10 years already. Or rather, I only remember meeting them in a parade more than 10 years ago. Shortage of manpower is the reason given.Originally posted by foga:hmmm... never heared about the 2nd guards.. anyone here in guards who's willing to enlight us? -
wonder what do they mean by shortage of manpower since every year got so many ppl go NS while many keng say their got so n so probs which gets them into easy vocations...Originally posted by bcoy:There are no intakes for 2nd Guards for nearly 10 years already. Or rather, I only remember meeting them in a parade more than 10 years ago. Shortage of manpower is the reason given.
Btw wat do the old 2nd Guards do??? What's their specialisation? -
Aren't our DIVERS good enough?
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I tink the 3rd Guards are our version of the US Marines. I heard the USMC heaping praises on them so i guess they must be realli good. Cheerios to the Guards
I understand ur point : you're pointing towards a navy-based combat unit yah? Not realli sure if i'm allowed to say anything but NDU is comprised of multiple components and some of us can actualli function as Marines, as in navy-based combat personnel if that's what you're referring to. After my Class II course i always think we're a 'pirated' version of the US Navy SEALs. Similar evolutions, cept for mildly reduced demands and instructors don't really go all out to knock you out from the course, (applies to NSF only, they do try to knock regulars out)
So,interested to join us yet? -
guards i tgt they are like sentry
so you mean nowadays guards dun stand at sentry post -
who doesn't
