RSAF F-15SG

• spartan_6

  5 Nov 08, 11:38

  E rumoured systems is e Elisra SPS-3000 EW suite same 1 tat fitted on our BLK52+ F-16DJ

  E E/O device had been comfirmed 2 be an IRST system

  For our F-15SG it does seems like only e pliot has e JHMCS

• lionnoisy

  5 Nov 08, 11:47

  second batch 12 planes cost US$1 billions.--or 83 million a pieces.--David Boey

  i heard F16 costs 50 m for a piece.
  The Straits Times page H7

  http://www.dsta.gov.sg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4365&Itemid=470

  %%%%%%%%

  i have a joke .This F15 SG is to replace the already A4 SU.

  It will take at least 2 years before we can see them flying in SG.

  If SG can afford to have a void without A4 replacement,do

  we really need F 15 SG?

   

   

• spartan_6

  5 Nov 08, 11:56

  Not la US $1b include 200 AIM-120C-5/7, 200 AIM-9X, 30 JSOW-A, 30 JSOW-C, 50 JDAM, 50 JDAM kits, 24 AMRAAM CAT rds, 24 AIM-9X CAT rds & 24 Link-16 Data-links + 12 aircrafts

• spartan_6

  5 Nov 08, 11:58

  Anyway I forsee another 24 aircraft if they r going 2 replace e F-5 also in e future

• rain-coat

  5 Nov 08, 14:36

  i think its better if you work on your citations and referencing, if not ah you go tertiery level you will suffer...

• lionnoisy

  5 Nov 08, 22:05

  http://www.zaobao.com/sp/sp081105_507_2.shtml     05 nov 2008

  some info very interesting--only from zao bao!!

  -----4 planes in test flights,6th and 7 th on assembly line,

  -----F15S for Saudi,therefore SG for Singapore

  ---can start assembly 6 months after ordering parts .Take 3 years for assembly.

  -----USA intends to use F15 until 2035 and invest more.SG can be benefited.

  ----life span 16,000 hours and more than 30 years.Space for ungrading.

  (lion note---10 hour per week for 30 yrs==16,000 hours)

  ---improved air--cond for AESD radar

  ---battle results of F15 ,米格21=MIG 21

   

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• stellazio

  5 Nov 08, 22:08

  the F15 are used to replace our A4s and not F5s??

  and that special helmet is nothig special, this technology has exists for many years out there already and already in the rsaf.

   

• spartan_6

  6 Nov 08, 01:37

  Tat why i say IF in e future

  & yes u rite this tech is nothing new, in fact we r using DASH 3 on our T/R/F-5S & BLK52 F-16C/DJ

• Shotgun

  6 Nov 08, 03:04

  Ahh... wait til you get one that see through base of your cockpit. =D

• sgstars

  6 Nov 08, 03:19

  Originally posted by Shotgun:

  Ahh... wait til you get one that see through base of your cockpit. =D

   what for ?

  they should fuse SAR (synthetic aperture radar) and DAS to create a 360 degree sensory mode.

  that one really GOD mode. can see everything from any angle.

• slim10

  6 Nov 08, 10:56

  GOD mode is for the F-35. US$5b lifetime cost for 1 sqn of 25 planes. 1 sqn of 18 planes -B versions should be able to swat most airforces (except those with gundams) in the region.
• bloodsucker

  6 Nov 08, 11:04

  Originally posted by stellazio:

  the F15 are used to replace our A4s and not F5s??

  and that special helmet is nothig special, this technology has exists for many years out there already and already in the rsaf.

   

  
  Ya its meant to take over the ground attack role of the A4s. The F-5s should be replaced by the F-35.

  And Lionnoisy, U SHOULD SHUT UP! Ur command of english is totally atrocious, and u are giving us info that is pretty useless.

• Arapahoe

  6 Nov 08, 11:16

  is an impressive bird. but I sometime wonder the effectiveness as a fighter when pitch against the newer Su.

• cheeze

  6 Nov 08, 11:24

  Originally posted by Arapahoe:

  is an impressive bird. but I sometime wonder the effectiveness as a fighter when pitch against the newer Su.

  F15/F16 against Su-30 in a dogfight (in context of 1v1).... quite iffy lah.especially with the Su-30 so manueverable with its TVC. ever seen a F16 on an offensive position on a Su-30 get into defensive very very quickly? haha. F15 probably fare abit worse.

  the new helmet mounted sights with the high-off boresight aim-9x would help to equal the odds a little in the dogfight. but then if the Su-30s have those new toys like mounted sights then we're back to square one. even the russian AA-11 is quite lethal already. the F-22 is supposed to match and outperform it but then we probably won't see it in SEA. F-35 is supposed to be good in strike but its's air-to-air capability still not very well-known.

  but then with the BVR weapons, it'll be down to who flies faster/higher/longer range-missile, better radar, better tactics, better ECM. they'll be lofting missiles at each other like nobody's business and don't go 1v1!! haha

• touchstone_2000

  6 Nov 08, 12:43

  Originally posted by bloodsucker:

  
  Ya its meant to take over the ground attack role of the A4s. The F-5s should be replaced by the F-35.

  And Lionnoisy, U SHOULD SHUT UP! Ur command of english is totally atrocious, and u are giving us info that is pretty useless.

  
  Lionnoisy's English, I can put up with.  It is those posts done in shorthand or SMS style that really irritates me.

  If you can't type properly, don't post.

• kotay

  6 Nov 08, 19:43

  ArEn'T YoU gLaD nO oNe'S dOiNg ThIs YeT?  Oh wAiT ... I jUsT dID :D

   

   

• stellazio

  6 Nov 08, 21:05

  i really dont know where you guys get your idea from that the strike eagles are replacing our skyhawks and that the F35's are replacing our F5s..

• lionnoisy

  6 Nov 08, 21:23

  Originally posted by stellazio:

  i really dont know where you guys get your idea from that the strike eagles are replacing our skyhawks and that the F35's are replacing our F5s..

  Skyhawks A-4SU retired in 2005 and replaced by F 15SG!!

  S'pore to boost expenditure, raise defence spending

  15 Feb 2008 ... F-15 fighter jet by Boeing to replace its ageing fleet of A-4SU Super Skyhawks. ..

   

  The Republic of Singapore Air Force has also selected the US-made F-15 fighter jet by Boeing to replace its ageing fleet of A-4SU Super Skyhawks.

  http://sg.geocities.com/sotong_onion/skyhawk.html

   

  MINDEF - News - RSAF Replaces Ageing A-4SU Super Skyhawks (14 Jul ...2000)

  long term planning.No last minute stuff and suprises.

  nn

• stellazio

  6 Nov 08, 21:26

  it has already been non existent for 3 years.. you dont call that a replacement.. and F15s are well known for their air to air capabilities which is what the F5's are also known for.. And our F16's are well equipped for the strike role.

  Go on, believe all the news that you read. Our skyhawks are now only used as trainers for trainee fighter pilots.

• Pitot

  6 Nov 08, 21:34

  erm, i believe there is no doubt that we have A4s in strategic reserves but the strike eagles, like that their name suggests, can carry a truckload of bombs.

  Perhaps it isnt a total replacement for the A4 but more so as a stop gap measure that many suggest, but it is no doubt that they are precision stike machines.

  So many take it that its buying a bomb truck to replace another bomb truck.

• sgstars

  6 Nov 08, 21:37

  Originally posted by kotay:

  ArEn'T YoU gLaD nO oNe'S dOiNg ThIs YeT?  Oh wAiT ... I jUsT dID :D

   

   

  ouch,

  that is like grating eyes. really painful. why on earth do people do that ?

• stellazio

  6 Nov 08, 21:39

  whats the use of having a few A4 in reserves when there are no pilots for it? the only remaining pilots left still capable of flying the A4's are those trainers in france now, as the last batch of the A4 pilots have already been converted to either F5s or F16s..

  And if you're telling me the F35's are here to replaced our F5s.. all i can do is..

• Pitot

  6 Nov 08, 21:48

  reservists, no?

  But u have to admit that the F15 can do what an A4 does and does it better...

  I mean, look at the mexicans for a hint of what we are trying to do? no doubt slightly different but its in the same wavelength.

   

  No one is arguing that the F15SG cant dogfight, but with such a low number purchased, it certainly has to be used in more valued missions other than air superiority right?

• stellazio

  6 Nov 08, 21:51

  nope, no more A4 reservist pilots.. a pilot loses currency after 1 month of not flying. and there is no more A4 squadrons..

  Well in the first place, the whole point of the Air Force is national air defence and not really a strike dominated capability force.. Sure they can perform the strike role, every modern day jet nowadays are hybrids but i believe our F16's are tasked for that role.

• Pitot

  6 Nov 08, 21:58

  okay, u shld know better than me on the manpower issue so i might be wrong on that.

  the block 52 plus yea we know, together with the F15SGs..

  just like the mexicans sufa's and ra'am. hahaha

  not trying to hint anything, but the key here is deep strike...

  Operation Orchard?