Singapore Offered British Training Base
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The British government has informed Singapore it would be able to permanently station a squadron of Eurofighter Typhoon combat aircraft in the U.K. if it was selected as the winner of Singapore's ongoing fighter competition.
The Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) intends to replace its aging A-4SU Skyhawks around 2007. An initial batch of 20 aircraft could be purchased, along with follow-on orders to replace the air force's F-5s.
Given the extremely restrictive nature of the national airspace the RSAF has for training, part of the fighter requirement has looked at extra-national basing options to meet training needs.
A British government official confirmed that Singapore had been advised that the U.K. is "prepared to offer basing." He added, however, that at this stage no air force base had yet been identified as the likely home of any RSAF unit.
The RSAF already has a jet training facility at Cazuax in the south of France, where A-4SU aircraft are deployed.
Singapore is now expected to issue a request for proposals--likely to three final contenders--by the end of the first or start of the second quarter of this year. A final selection would follow in 2004.
The RSAF has been considering the Boeing F-15S and F/A-18E/F, the Block 60 variant of the F-16, the Dassault Rafale, a Sukhoi Su-27 derivative and the Eurofighter Typhoon. Some analysts and industrialists here suggest both the Rafale and Typhoon could go ahead to the final phase of the competition, along with a U.S. platform.
Eurofighter officials admit that in the wake of the loss of one of the seven prototypes--the two-seat DA-6--they received numerous questions from the RSAF. However, given that the loss has been ascribed to a known issue with a very early "hand-built" version of the EJ200 engine, they maintain this will not have any impact on the outcome of the RSAF selection process.
Alongside the training requirement, the RSAF, according to industry sources close to the competition, would also like the ability to independently integrate air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons on the selected aircraft.
In terms of guided weaponry, Singapore has looked not only to the U.S. but also to Israel as a source of air-to-air missiles. It is widely held, though not confirmed officially, that the RSAF was one of the first export customers for the Israeli Python-4 high-agility dogfight missile. This missile is being integrated on RSAF's F-16 aircraft.
Alongside the Python-4, there remains the possibility the RSAF has also looked to Israel as an alternative source of an active radar-guided missile in the shape of what is known for export as Derby. It has also bought the AIM-120 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile from Raytheon. These remain stored in the U.S.
Whether all three of the final contenders will be able to guarantee the RSAF the ability to independently integrate weaponry remains problematic. Such a capability would require a level of software access that Washington previously has been loath to give.
In the case of air-to-surface weaponry, both the Rafale and the Typhoon could be offered with a derivative of the Scalp EG/Storm Shadow cruise missile. Again, whether the U.S. would sanction the release of a weapon with a similar range--export derivatives of the Anglo-French missile have a range on the order of 400 km. (248 mi.)--also remains in doubt.
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guess most of our prediction are pretty correct
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I'd hate to say this. But the Malaysian intelligence probably love u guys. They probably couldn't have figured out these on your own.
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don't underestimate them lahOriginally posted by Shotgun:I'd hate to say this. But the Malaysian intelligence probably love u guys. They probably couldn't have figured out these on your own.
u mean they're that daft that they have to go scavenging around in online forums for amateur analysis to write their intelligence reports?
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No need to underestimate them too much, as they would probably have mixxed and match our ability, in the same manner as they are equipping their MAF.
We could serve our SGP interest by DISinformation - by bragging more then we have, and they could end up spending themselves to death.
This is much like what the previous US President Reagan did to the Russians, by talking loud about investing in the future Star Wars platform and forcinging a Russian response to the challenge while still stuck with a faltering economy. -
Like I said... You can talk about our not so secret military purchases from Israel and US. BUT NEVER TALK ABOUT OUR TOP SECRET GUNDAMS and NUKE SILOS ON PUBLIC FORUMS!!
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hahaha...and you called then INTELLIGENCE???? hahaha...Originally posted by CX:don't underestimate them lah u mean they're that daft that they have to go scavenging around in online forums for amateur analysis to write their intelligence reports?
oops... have i just exposed their secret???
But i think this is a great move... this put Malaysia into a LL situation and should they move a inch... they got to face two super power...the US and British!!! not mentioning others.......... but i think SG is able to finish the job themselves if they are required to do so. -
anyway t info posted is consider as declassiifed info...nothing so classified as it is....i have seen before tt magazine b4..origin from USA
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Malaysia seeks new Russian, US fighter jets
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) - Malaysia hopes to sign deals later this year to buy Russian and U.S.-made fighter jets in a major boost for its air force, authorities said Monday.
Officials are negotiating the price and mode of payment for an undisclosed number of Boeing's U.S.-made Super Hornet FA-18F fighter jets and Russian company Sukhoi's Su-30 military aircraft, said Lt. Gen. Abdullah Ahmad, deputy chief of Malaysia's air force.
Abdullah said the purchases would bolster Malaysia's existing fleet of 18 Russian MiG-29 fighters, eight FA-18D Hornets, seven F-5 Tigers and eight British-built Hawk jets.
The proposed defense contracts would be this Southeast Asian country's largest since spending about 6 billion ringgit (dlrs 1.6 billion) last year on European and Russian-made hardware ranging from rifles and missiles to its first submarines.
Defense Minister Najib Razak said Malaysia might sign agreements worth billions of ringgit (hundreds of millions of dollars) to buy military and civilian aircraft at a September showcase for defense manufacturers on Malaysia's northern Langkawi island.
Najib declined to specify the type and number of aircraft, but defense officials speaking on condition of anonymity said these would likely include the Super Hornets and Su-30.
Officials have said Malaysia's neighbors should not be nervous about the defense boost, since the purchases are part of plans put on hold in 1997 by the Asian financial crisis. - AP
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Relax, wait another five to ten years, and we may just see an improverished neighbor who spent ahead of what they can earn.
Their Government resources are called out to subsidise the three privatised Port Operations, Malaysian Airlines purchase of six Airbus 380 (3XX), payments for the various new equipment for the RMNavy, RMAirF and the RMArmedF, debugging of equipment at the K.L.I.A., L R T and upgrading of K.T.M. railways, as well as the numerous infrastructural projects that include the new bridge to be build on their half of the Straits of Johor that will meet our side of the Causeway (which will not be demolished).
It will be great to watch how the Petronas generated funds are being poured to waste all over the country, with leaks going into some private whirlpools. -
wonder how much reserves Malaysia has...Originally posted by Atobe:Relax, wait another five to ten years, and we may just see an improverished neighbor who spent ahead of what they can earn.
Their Government resources are called out to subsidise the three privatised Port Operations, Malaysian Airlines purchase of six Airbus 380 (3XX), payments for the various new equipment for the RMNavy, RMAirF and the RMArmedF, debugging of equipment at the K.L.I.A., L R T and upgrading of K.T.M. railways, as well as the numerous infrastructural projects that include the new bridge to be build on their half of the Straits of Johor that will meet our side of the Causeway (which will not be demolished).
It will be great to watch how the Petronas generated funds are being poured to waste all over the country, with leaks going into some private whirlpools.
anyway what they are doing are good for them in e long run...
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Well.....think lots of unnecessary fundin for breakin Guinness whole record.Originally posted by Atobe:Relax, wait another five to ten years, and we may just see an improverished neighbor who spent ahead of what they can earn.
Their Government resources are called out to subsidise the three privatised Port Operations, Malaysian Airlines purchase of six Airbus 380 (3XX), payments for the various new equipment for the RMNavy, RMAirF and the RMArmedF, debugging of equipment at the K.L.I.A., L R T and upgrading of K.T.M. railways, as well as the numerous infrastructural projects that include the new bridge to be build on their half of the Straits of Johor that will meet our side of the Causeway (which will not be demolished).
It will be great to watch how the Petronas generated funds are being poured to waste all over the country, with leaks going into some private whirlpools.
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Cavsg pls dun post in a reply which has nothin to do with what its been discuss hereSingapore Offered British Training Base its veri misleadin sometimes
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well I suspect that the malaysian news was a reply to the aviation week report. they have already announce similar news long ago, there's no point repeating the same old thing again unless its directed at the singapore reportOriginally posted by Orcishwarrior:Well.....think lots of unnecessary fundin for breakin Guinness whole record. .
Cavsg pls dun post in a reply which has nothin to do with what its been discuss hereSingapore Offered British Training Base its veri misleadin sometimes
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HOW CAN U SAY SUCH THING!!!!Originally posted by Atobe:Relax, wait another five to ten years, and we may just see an improverished neighbor who spent ahead of what they can earn.
Our neighbour is smart and wise, they buy high tech toys with dual purpose in mind. During good years can train their guys really well, in bad years their guys can become guides for tourist ....just like what happen on the chakri narubet! -
TODAY Thursday Feb 20, 2003
Getting Typhoon on the shortlist
BAE System chairman Richard Evans met Singapore Government officials earlier this month to try to place the Eurofighter Typhoon plane on final shortlist for a fighter order from the Republic.
Mr Evans may hold further talks in another visit in May if the shortlist is not release by then, said Mr Andy Wilson, the Singapore -based export programme director.
Singapore wants to replaceits A4-SU Super Skyhawks and has requested for information from potential bidders with the intention of coming up with a shortlist of three types of fighter jets.
The Typhoon, built by BAE, European Aeronautic Defense and Space, and Finmeccanica SpA's Alenia, is one contender. Other competitiors include Dassault Aviation SA's Rafale, the Lockheed Martin F-16, Boeing 's F-15E and F-18E/F Super Hornet planes and AVPK Sukhoi Su-35.
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seems like there's a sudden twist in both rafale n typhoon news...
First Flights for Eurofighter Typhoon Series Production Aircraft (SPAs)
Date : 19th February 2003 Source : Eurofighter GmbH Author : jwcook
The Four partner nations have all flown their Serial Production Aircraft (SPA's) These SPA will now undergo clearances for Type Acceptance leading to qualification of the Eurofighter Typhoon Weapon System.
The Flights were as follows :-
German Trainer 001 (GT001)
13 February 2003, 15.43 CET (44 minutes)
Italian Trainer 001 (IT001)
14 February 2003, 14.30 CET (50 minutes)
British Trainer 001 (BT001)
14 February 2003, 16.37 GMT (21 minutes)
Spanish Trainer 001 (ST001)
17 February 2003 (Unknown Time and Duration)
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http://www.eurofighter.com/news/latestnews.asp
First Flights for Eurofighter Typhoon Series Production Aircraft (SPAs) 14 February 2003
Eurofighter GmbH today announced maiden flights of the first four Series Production Aircraft (SPA) in the four Eurofighter Partner Nations – Germany, Italy, Spain and the United Kingdom. This event is a milestone for the Eurofighter Typhoon programme as it approaches Entry to Service.
The first Series Production Aircraft will now undergo a process of clearances for Type Acceptance leading to qualification of the Eurofighter Typhoon Weapon System. Training and Support for air crew and maintenance personnel has already begun at different locations across the partner nations in anticipation of Entry to Service. The Eurofighter Typhoon Weapon System will form the backbone of NATO Air Power for a new generation of swing/multi-role aircraft that will be in service for at least 40 years.
Commenting on events Filippo Bagnato, Chief Executive Officer, Eurofighter GmbH, stated ‘This milestone marks a change in the Eurofighter programme. We are in full series production with more than 90 aircraft already on the line. In addition, plans for development of enhanced versions of the Weapon System are well advanced, with significant interest from the European partner air forces and potential export countries.
The flights are a prelude to Entry to Service and the realisation of a major undertaking by the European industrial partners in establishing a world class industry for military aircraft in the global market.'
Commenting for NATO Eurofighter and Tornado Management Agency (NETMA), General Emilio Poyo Guerrero stated ‘The flights of our SPAs are a step forward and a sign of progress in our programme. NETMA and the Partner Nations are working closely with Industry to complete the detailed and complex tasks necessary before acceptance and delivery of the Typhoon weapon system to our Air Forces.'
Eurofighter Typhoon Series Production Aircraft Flight Profiles
German Trainer 001 (GT001)
Location: EADS Military Aircraft, Manching, Germany
Date: 13 February 2003, 15.43 CET (44 minutes)
Aircraft: Eurofighter GT001
Configuration: Production Standard Twin Seat
Aircrew: Heinz Spoelgen, EADS Military Aircraft
Eurofighter Typhoon Project Test Pilot
Lt. Col. Robert Hierl , German Air Force
GT001 is the first of 180 Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft planned for the German Air Force.
“The flight with this production twin-seat GT001 was a unique experience. The aircraft demonstrated a very high level of maturity and performance for a first flight that exceeded our expectations. We look forward to conducting more sorties.”
Italian Trainer 001 (IT001)
Location: Alenia Aeronautica, Caselle, Italy
Date: 14 February 2003, 14.30 CET (50 minutes)
Aircraft: Eurofighter Typhoon IT001
Configuration: Production Standard Twin Seat
Aircrew: Cpt. Marco Venanzetti, Alenia Aeronautica,
Test Pilot
Cpt. Enrico Scarabotto, Alenia Aeronautica,
Test Pilot
‘This first flight marks a milestone in my flying experience and also for the people behind the Eurofighter programme. The aircraft performed extremely well and we now have a clear view of what we are about to deliver. Simply, this is an outstanding aircraft with exceptional performance.’
Eurofighter Typhoon IT001 is the first of 121 aircraft planned for the Italian Air Force. IT001 will initially be involved in EMC clearance testing as part of the overall Type Acceptance process for the Eurofighter Typhoon Weapon system
British Trainer 001 (BT001)
Location: BAE SYSTEMS, Warton, UK
Date: 14 February 2003, 16.37 GMT (21 minutes)
Aircraft: Typhoon BT001
Configuration: Production Standard Twin Seat
Aircrew: Derek Reeh, BAE SYSTEMS,
Director of Flight Operations
Archie Neill, BAE SYSTEMS,
Typhoon Entry-into-Service Manager
Wing Commander David Chan, based at Warton to bring Typhoon into service for the RAF, commented: “Seeing BT001 fly today proved to me that the programme is moving on at a pace. Typhoon is important for the RAF and important for our national security, and will form the cornerstone of RAF Air Power for decades to come.
BT001 is the first of 232 Typhoon aircraft planned for the Royal Air Force. Initially BT001 will deploy to Boscombe Down where it will undertake EMC testing as part of the Type Acceptance process for the Eurofighter Typhoon Weapon System.
Spanish Trainer 001 (ST001)
Location: EADS Military Aircraft, Getafe, Spain
Date: 17 February 2003
Aircraft: Eurofighter ST001
Configuration: Production Standard Twin Seat
Aircrew: Eduardo Cuadrado Garcia, EADS-CASA
Chief of Test Pilot Center at Getafe
Alfonso de Castro Tornero, EADS-CASA
Eurofighter Test Pilot
ST001 is the first of 87 Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft planned for the Spanish Air Force.
Commenting on the flight Cuadrado said, “this maiden flight has been especially important for me. I entered the cockpit with a high level of confidence and certainty in the aircraft’s maturity and that that the aircraft would perform well – which was proven beyond my expectations. Flying Eurofighter really is a superb and gratifying experience“. -
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Interesting... I wonder if ST Aero has ever thought of modifying F-5E/S into an F-20? Perhaps RSAF can extract another 15 years services from the Tiger(sharks)Originally posted by duotiga83:interesting model concept
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i dun think usa willing to give ST the blueprint for F-20Originally posted by Joe Black:Interesting... I wonder if ST Aero has ever thought of modifying F-5E/S into an F-20? Perhaps RSAF can extract another 15 years services from the Tiger(sharks) hee
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Sg do brought the blueprint of F20 in1990 for the upgrade of RSAF F5E.Originally posted by duotiga83:i dun think usa willing to give ST the blueprint for F-20
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oic..where is it mention?Originally posted by Anza Andy:Sg do brought the blueprint of F20 in1990 for the upgrade of RSAF F5E.
