A Singapore aircraft-carrier?
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The Juan Carlos crew = 343, Dokdo = 330.
http://www.navy.mil.kr/english/sub_guide/sub_data.jsp?menu=3&smenu=3
6 x Formidable = 71 x 6 = 426 crew
6 x Victory = 46 x 6 = 276 crew
11 x Fearless = 30 x 11 = 330 crew
If we can't find 300+ crew, we wouldn't be able to crew any of the naval sqns. Its not really a manpower constraint but more of an operational need vs political scope (air force vs navy control over air assets).
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Do you think that in SEA the next deciding battle is still Naval power similar to that of WWII?
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Looking at the potential conflict points, India, China, Spratley....
Add potential naval inventories e.g. SE Asia, Australia, NZ etc.
Is there any reason why a potential conflict will not involve aircraft, naval vessels and subs?
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Russia now claims Mistrals needed for the pacific.
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Hi Guys,
Need your help at sgforums Malaysia Corner "Malaysian come into S'pore forum & lecture Singaporeans ".
Many thanks.
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5 yrs old and he knows exactly what he wants. An aircraft carrier.
http://tnp.sg/news/story/0,4136,243635,00.html
Smart kid. There's hope for Singapore's future.
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What SINGAPOREAN AIRCRAFT CARRIER ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?
WHEN EVEN THE ROYAL AUSTRALIAN NAVY HAS AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER WHY WOULD SINGAPORE BE SOLD ONE BY THE U.S. NAVY?
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More coverage by today of "I want to captain an aircraft carrier"
http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100612-0000084/I-want-to-captain-an-aircraft-carrier
Quote: These generated online comments from Netizens including a naval combat officer who posted that "Marcus' courage and enthusiasm was truly inspiring. It showed that no task was too big or too silly to accomplish and that no dream was too absurd to chase".
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http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20100616/159448317.html
Russia begins negotiations of Mistral purchase contract
Russia's state arms exporter Rosoboronexport has started contract negotiations on the purchase of a French-built Mistral-class ship, the company's head said on Wednesday.
"Rosoboronexport has been appointed the implementer of the contract on the purchase of a French Mistral helicopter carrier by the [Russian] Defense Ministry," Anatoly Isaikin told RIA Novosti.
"We are carrying everything out strictly within the framework of Russia's legal system. This prescribes going through a number of stages which include the assessment of technical parameters and negotiation process involving the Defense Ministry," he went on.
Isaikin said a number of expert groups had been set up within Rosoboronexport to negotiate the deal with France.
"All the work on this ship is being carried out in close collaboration with the Defense Ministry. This is a joint effort," he added.
Russia is negotiating the purchase of at least one French-built Mistral-class ship and plans to build three more vessels of the same class in partnership with the French naval shipbuilder DCNS.
The Mistral-class ship is capable of transporting and deploying 16 helicopters, four landing barges, up to 70 armored vehicles including 13 battle tanks, and 450 personnel.
The Russian military has said it plans to use Mistral ships in its Northern and Pacific fleets.
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Interesting article on fixed wing AEW for India
Jun 16, 2010
By Asia-Pacific Staff
New DelhiThe Indian navy is trying to move ahead with an effort to buy four carrier-based fixed airborne early warning and control aircraft, and a request for information is now on the streets.
The request for information (RFI) calls for aircraft capable of providing “airborne surveillance, detection and tracking of airborne and surface contacts and control.”
The navy presently operates a fleet of nine Kamov Ka-31 airborne early warning (AEW) helicopters. The comparatively limited range and time-on-station of an AEW helicopter, however, continues to drive the navy’s interest in a fixed-wing early warning platform. The navy has had aspirations to acquire a more capable AEW platform for the better part of a decade, but so far has been unable to secure a procurement program for most of the last 10 years. Some navy officials suggest that the acquisition is still not an immediate priority.
It is now six years since the navy first approached Northrop Grumman about the E-2C Hawkeye. At the time, the navy was working hard to identify a fixed-wing AEW platform for the Admiral Gorshkov (INS Vikramaditya) aircraft carrier.
In 2005, the company’s then-director of AEW programs, David Murray, suggested to the Indian navy that E-2C, with appropriate modifications, could be operated from the Gorshkov’s angled deck without a steam catapult, though the navy was not persuaded. Northrop Grumman has since been trying to push the E-2 platform as a shore-based asset, and, in 2009, obtained U.S. government clearance to pitch the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye.
With one indigenous aircraft carrier in the pipeline—and a second to follow—the navy is convinced it needs a fixed-wing AEW platform, if not for the first, then definitely for the second aircraft carrier.
Earlier this year, Northrop Grumman officials revealed the company was awaiting guidance from the navy following technical briefings. Company executives have also reportedly been in discussion with the navy about the feasibility of installing a catapult launch system on India’s second indigenous aircraft carrier, a suggestion already under active consideration by naval designers here.
While the navy has variously weighed the option of considering other longer-range rotary-wing airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) platforms, it has persisted with its view that its fleet of Ka-31s simply will not fulfill its early-warning requirements if it has two aircraft carrier battle groups in the coming decade. Doctrine published three years ago emphasized the need for AEW platforms with meaningful time on station.
The new RFI states that the aircraft should be capable of providing an integrated air and surface picture of the area under surveillance in adverse weather and in dense electronic environments. Additionally, it should be capable of being used as a command-and-control platform. The navy is stipulating the aircraft also have a limited maritime patrol and search-and-rescue capabilities.
In a mid-2009 meeting, the navy’s Directorate of Aircraft Acquisition internally discussed the feasibility of the Bell-Boeing V-22 Osprey platform as a potential AEW&C aircraft, but this did not evolve into anything concrete, and any plans to call for information were dropped. At the time, Boeing officials confirmed that they had heard nothing of the Indian navy’s interest in the V-22 platform, and that the company had not initiated any discussions.
The Indian AEW&C aircraft project, currently under development by the Centre for Airborne Systems (CABS) in Bangalore, will receive its first modified Embraer ERJ 145 later this year. The program has previously been pitched to the navy as a platform for a shore-based early warning aircraft.
With the first of eight Boeing P-8I long-range maritime reconnaissance aircraft to be delivered in 2013, the navy is also in the market for six medium-range maritime reconnaissance jets. An evaluation program for the latter requirement is expected to begin this year.
Credit: Northrop Grumman
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I dunt like SG CV. This does not fit SG stragety. But i am please to tell u
SG is building a mega shipyards which can be used to build four CV simultaneously !
http://www.chec.bj.cn/zg/tabid/478/Default.aspx
google translation
The project contract amount is approximately 320 million U.S. dollars, duration 42 months.
Works include: First,built 350m x 66m x 13.2m x 3 docks . Construction of 360m x 89m x 13.2m x 1 dock.
Second, the length of the construction of three 318m x 25m jetty, a total length of 954m (including berthing pier structure).
Three of the embankment construction of two terminals and the total length of 688m total length of 1710m in 4 Wharf.
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propsed Tuas Intergrated Mega shipyard--Phrase 1
http://www.sembcorpmarine.com.sg/index.php?page=Tuas#main
mm
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Russia to get tons of KA-class helos if mistral deal goes through...
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Originally posted by weasel1962:
even with fiscal constraint.....?
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Yup. The first one was already funded so that's pretty much a go.
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Sarkozy: France to build 2 mistral for russia
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4721125&c=EUR&s=SEA
"We're still negotiating the contract, but the decision to go ahead is certain," the president added.
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Mistral contract to be signed in Oct
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20100802/160042127.html
Cost per mistral according to french press: ~400-500m euro
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Could this be the carriers killer.....DF - 21
DF-21A MRBM System in service with the PLA Second Artillery Corps (Chinese Internet)The DongFeng 21 (DF-21, NATO code name: CSS-5) is a two-stage, solid-propellant, single-warhead medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) system developed by China Changfeng Mechanics and Electronics Technology Academy (also known as 2nd Space Academy). Developed from the JuLang 1 (JL-1) submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM), the DF-21 was originally intended for strategic missions but its later variants were designed for both nuclear and conventional missions. The latest DF-21D was said to be the world’s first and only anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) system. The DF-21 has also been developed into space launcher and anti-satellite/anti-missile weapon carrier.
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The problem is the IRBM flight profile is similar whether carrying conventional or nuclear warheads.
As flight durations are often too short to make a determination, this could easily spark a nuclear exchange.
Even if China were to openly state at point of firing that the IRBMs fired are conventionally armed, could the US accept that risk? Unlikely. The response could well be nuclear.
Dangerous.
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they are mobile launch and submarine launch.....so i supposed one would have to take out intelligence survillance reconnaissance satelites or other cheaper asset to limit its Tracking range.
Jumping ahead.....i supposed the next generation of SRI would be the ultimate star war from space to surface target.
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Mistral deal in doubt. Russia throws deal open to tender.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4750808&c=EUR&s=TOP
Koreans may participate with Dokdo design.
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Paradigm shift. "Unmanned aircraft" carriers.
"The US Navy's top officer emphasised new urgency for placing a stealthy, unmanned aircraft system (UAS) on carrier decks no later than 2018."
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i thought there are currently 2 in the running X45C and X47?
i thought one of the UAV is going on test flight......
Following the roll out, the UCAS will undergo subsystem and structural testing through 2009, leading to the first flight scheduled in fall 2009. Carrier suitability tests and demonstration will be carried out during the sea trials planned to begin in late 2011.
http://www.defense-update.com/products/p/phantom_ray_090509.html
Lockheed martin has a RQ-170 stealth....wonder that would be considered?
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Today straits times there is an article mentioning that Britain and France is looking at sharing carrier deployment responsibilities.
So hypothetical scenario if MY or SG pressed the FPD panic button ViVa France Charles De Gaulle will here instead of Her Majesty Ship.....not that they would send a carrier but the idea of the arrangement?
Just wondering.........why would the french want that?
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Actually, I've mentioned this somewhere else. The ASBM's trajectory will be very different from the usual DF-21's trajectory unless they are planning to use nuclear tipped DF-21s to target American carrier battlegroups.
