RMAF F/A-18D vs RSAF F-16 Block 52
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Can anyone tell me which one is more advanced.
eg. what avionics does the F-16 use...and weapons...everything about the RSAF F-16s, and we will compare them.
because i have some details about the standard of the RMAF Hornets -
Let us all cool down first.
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everyone pls ans like a gentlement and not flame ok?
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pure specs?
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i want to have a rational comparision.Originally posted by CenturionMBT:everyone pls ans like a gentlement and not flame ok?
i will back up everythihng with facts.
and if the F/A-18, is better after our comparision, u must accept it with an open heart -
pure specs i think the F-18D will lose....
but the malaysian pliots arent really that good leh....i remember last time they buy the MiG-29 within months something like 3 of them crashed or something -
F/A-18D has just a ground attack role.
Anyway, it is going to be returned. Compare the super hornet instead. -
First,
The RMAF F/A-18Ds are standard USMC version...no downgrade.
Gun
20 mm M61A1 Vulcan
Air-To-Air Missiles
AIM-9S Sidewinder
AIM-7M Sparrow
Air-To-Ground Missiles
AGM-65D Maverick
Paveway II LGB
CRV-7 unguided rockets
Anti-Shipping Missiles
AGM-84A Harpoon Block 1C
Equipment
AAS-38 Nite Hawk targeting FLIR pods
Cat's Eyes pilot's night vision goggles
300 lb external fuel tanks
With APG-73 radar and GE F404-GE-402 engine...so it can reach Mach 1.8 from the basic Mach 1.7
Also, they use:
AN/ALE-47 Countermeasures Dispenser System (CMDS)
AN/ALQ-126B Airborne Self-protection Jammer (ASPJ)
Availability is way better than the MiGs...it usually at least 7/8 available
How about the RSAF F-16 Block 52? -
most of us have the tech specs......of both planes...unless u got something unclassified info.......
/mi sit down n watch the debate.....
ps: i also have the tech specs..... -
m'sia returning the hornets?!
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they recieved the MiGs in 1995...only crashed 1 in 1998.Originally posted by |-|05|:pure specs i think the F-18D will lose....
but the malaysian pliots arent really that good leh....i remember last time they buy the MiG-29 within months something like 3 of them crashed or something
no hornets were ever lost.
i want the specs for the F-16 -
if they buy the SH, they will trade them inOriginally posted by |-|05|:m'sia returning the hornets?! -
just tell me the avionics suite for the falconsOriginally posted by duotiga83:most of us have the tech specs......of both planes...unless u got something unclassified info.......
/mi sit down n watch the debate.....
ps: i also have the tech specs..... -
no before 1998 got crash 1 more.....i was in m'sia that time it was in the news...i think was 1996...i remember i not yet sec sch yet and the news said that was the 2nd crash liao so......
and sorry abt the months i wasnt sure when m'sia bought the MiG's
Btw does any1 know if USA released the Aim-120 for us? -
I think they have to trade-in their old hornet to get a new one.Originally posted by |-|05|:m'sia returning the hornets?!
Similar to giving your 8210 to get a MMS phone.
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interenet, magazines, books r everiwhere......they r sure to have it somewhere....dun rely on one sources...tts my encouragement...if u wan hard evidences
mi juz wan to c the debate...... -
i can confirm they only crashed one.Originally posted by |-|05|:no before 1998 got crash 1 more.....i was in m'sia that time it was in the news...i think was 1996...i remember i not yet sec sch yet and the news said that was the 2nd crash liao so......
and sorry abt the months i wasnt sure when m'sia bought the MiG's
Btw does any1 know if USA released the Aim-120 for us?
go check the database at scramble.nl if u want to sure.
they only lost one in 1998.....for sure -
F-16 one is so secretive, no one knows. What we have is the estimated one.
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Do you RMAF have AIM-7, AGM-84 and AGM-65D ???Originally posted by [-t-]:First,
The RMAF F/A-18Ds are standard USMC version...no downgrade.
Gun
20 mm M61A1 Vulcan
Air-To-Air Missiles
AIM-9S Sidewinder
AIM-7M Sparrow
Air-To-Ground Missiles
AGM-65D Maverick
Paveway II LGB
CRV-7 unguided rockets
Anti-Shipping Missiles
AGM-84A Harpoon Block 1C
Equipment
AAS-38 Nite Hawk targeting FLIR pods
Cat's Eyes pilot's night vision goggles
300 lb external fuel tanks
With APG-73 radar and GE F404-GE-402 engine...so it can reach Mach 1.8 from the basic Mach 1.7
Also, they use:
AN/ALE-47 Countermeasures Dispenser System (CMDS)
AN/ALQ-126B Airborne Self-protection Jammer (ASPJ)
Availability is way better than the MiGs...it usually at least 7/8 available
How about the RSAF F-16 Block 52? -
that means u dont know right?Originally posted by duotiga83:interenet, magazines, books r everiwhere......they r sure to have it somewhere
mi juz wan to c the debate......
i gave info like radar, engine, counter measures and weapons..can anyone else here more knowledgable tell me? -
i'm juz b humble....let others do the job....Originally posted by [-t-]:that means u dont know right?
i gave info like radar, engine, counter measures and weapons..can anyone else here more knowledgable tell me? -
YESOriginally posted by spencer99:Do you RMAF have AIM-7, AGM-84 and AGM-65D ???
AIM-7M , AGM-84A Block 1C and AGM-65D
What about the F-16s? -
btw,
RMAF strike capability at night and bad weather is further enhaced because they got the AAS-38B NiteHawk FLIR pod
Howa bout the RSAF F-16? -
Originally posted by [-t-]:
really meh??
i can confirm they only crashed one.
go check the database at scramble.nl if u want to sure.
[b]they only lost one in 1998.....for sure[/b]
wah then my memoray muz be very bad.....cuz i remember 1998 holiday was new zealand not malaysian
oh well
F-16 specs i got but it's not for the SG version and it's quite old 1 -
no one has all the specs for Singapore's F-16s, notice the larger spine compared to the US ones. . some say it is to carry Israeli avionics, anyway, Singapore F-16 are supposedly heavier than US ones too. . .
weapons wise I think its mostly the same as what you listed for F/A-18D, but also with AIM-120, which is still stored in US and won't be released till someone in the region gets a missile of similar class. . ., not very sure about the unguided rockets in your list though, sorry
Note also that Singapore has more than one type of F-16, both C and D, even if u only referring to Block 52 ones
also interested in the Singapore F-16 engines, not just Block 52, anyone know what it is?