SINGAPORE SIGNS LETTER OF INTENT FOR JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER
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it is larger , but it need a smaller amount of area to take off than the F-16. Thats the crucial part , not the size of the plane.
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Any more advantage of JSF over F-16 ?
1. stealth2.need of shorter runway for TO and landing
3.lower maintainance cost.... -
The in-built avionics shd be at the higher end if to compare to existing multiple role fighters.
The other advantage is that , it is compaitible to all current ATA/ATG weapons in the RSAF's inventory which ease logistics. -
the avioincs is said to be sensor fusion based......Originally posted by foxtrout8:The in-built avionics shd be at the higher end if to compare to existing multiple role fighters.
The other advantage is that , it is compaitible to all current ATA/ATG weapons in the RSAF's inventory which ease logistics. -
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Originally posted by Pressure-Forward:JSF is slighter larger than the current F-16
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cos it'll be quite easy for China to launch some missiles and blow up their runwasy in the first day of war. . .Harrier give them something that will fly without a proper runway. Btw, is the Harrier V/STOL or VTOL? can it both Land AND take-off vertically?Originally posted by duotiga83:is doesn't necessary need a carreir to operate a vtol aircraft.....there's once an article in janes and otehr aviation magazines stated tt taiwan wanted to buy 100 over harriers to operate in their land.... -
Note that the JSF remians a primarily Air-To-Ground, singapore still need something with dedicated Air-to-air capability IMHO, and what about an interceptor dat can get itself up high in the air very fast?
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av-8a/b is v/stol aircraftOriginally posted by laser51088:cos it'll be quite easy for China to launch some missiles and blow up their runwasy in the first day of war. . .Harrier give them something that will fly without a proper runway. Btw, is the Harrier V/STOL or VTOL? can it both Land AND take-off vertically?
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for a2a requirement, i would go 4 typhoonOriginally posted by laser51088:Note that the JSF remians a primarily Air-To-Ground, singapore still need something with dedicated Air-to-air capability IMHO, and what about an interceptor dat can get itself up high in the air very fast? -
Harrier can VTOL but if it takes does VTO it wouldn't be able to carry enough weapons and fuel to much so u usually only see these at air shows.Originally posted by laser51088:cos it'll be quite easy for China to launch some missiles and blow up their runwasy in the first day of war. . .Harrier give them something that will fly without a proper runway. Btw, is the Harrier V/STOL or VTOL? can it both Land AND take-off vertically?
Practically, Harriers STOVL cos it's easier to VL in a Harrier. If you look at the landing gear, you'll see that it's not really designed to land in a conventional manner. -
Some vidoe clip of JSF test flight here.
http://www.lmaeronautics.com/gallery/products/combat_air/x35/x35b/index.html -
The F-35 is just like the F-16, with slighter emphasis on ground strike (for example, stealth features geared towards SAM acquisition radars, radar modes optimised for ground targeting etc) but still a very capable all-round fighter. Its stealth (which for the conventional and naval version will approach the higher limits of the Raptor's, as claimed by L-M engineers) will give it a huge advantage over any conventional fighter. Its range (which will be substantially more than any fighter of its class, due to its very large internal fuel capacity) will give it long endurance in CAP missions. Its avionics, which are integrated (though to a slightly less extent than the F-22's, for the sake of easing future upgrading of the avionics system) will allow it comprehensive situational awareness of the battlespace, giving it the vaunted "first look-first shot-first kill" capability.Originally posted by laser51088:Note that the JSF remians a primarily Air-To-Ground, singapore still need something with dedicated Air-to-air capability IMHO, and what about an interceptor dat can get itself up high in the air very fast? -
In today's The Straits Times, the F-35 article says we have 5 F-5 squadrons. This is obiously untrue as we have only 3. Don't they check before printing?
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i think is they typo error...damn disinformation....Originally posted by eurofighter:In today's The Straits Times, the F-35 article says we have 5 F-5 squadrons. This is obiously untrue as we have only 3. Don't they check before printing?
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maybe they included the recon sqn and stuff?Originally posted by eurofighter:In today's The Straits Times, the F-35 article says we have 5 F-5 squadrons. This is obiously untrue as we have only 3. Don't they check before printing? -
check liao...there is onli 3 official sqns....Originally posted by |-|05|:maybe they included the recon sqn and stuff?
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Even that, we only have 3.
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Has anybody thought about the implication of the signing of the letter of intent on the forthcoming order for the replacement of the remaining A4s?
Here's my take on this issue. Lockheed Martin may end up a loser in this case, at least in the short to medium term. Reason, you may ask?
Currently they are promoting the F16C/D Blk 60. Comparing to our current version, and the F-35 when it enters service in 2008 (For US service only), this plane is right in the middle in terms of capability (est.) and technology. By signing the letter of intent, RSAF will unlikely want to put all its eggs in one basket, all our aircraft coming from the US, and from the same manufacturer at that, Lockheed Martin! I have nothing against LM, but there may be obstacles and snags whenit comes to technology transfer as in the past over the mission computer of the F16.
IMHO, the F15 is too expensive (for such an old design), and the SBug, well, too many negative comments to even list it here (I may be wrong though). SU-30, forget about it.
Thus, the only candidates worth looking into it, are the Typhoon and the Rafale. Comments anybody?
BTW, I think the next gen. aircaft will not only replace the remaining A4s, but at least 1 squadron of the F5s, if the options are taken up with delivery of the 1st 20 or so in 2007~9, with the 2nd batch in 2011~12. As the F-35 for export customers will only be available in 2012 (according to journals like Flight INt'l), the RSAF will most likely get theirs in 2015~17, replacing the remaining F5s plus the F16A/Bs, and then gradually the F16C/Ds after 2020. -
then it is misprint?Originally posted by eurofighter:Even that, we only have 3. -
is misprint or misinformationOriginally posted by |-|05|:then it is misprint? -
i saw 1 forum says that the signing of jsf is of political intentions...any comments?
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Originally posted by foxtrout8:
Also not forgetting, we can "CR" a few super large container ships from our national shipping liner and turn them into mini-carriers thus extending our reach to their northern states leaving the dumb malaysian air force wondering where the hell did we come from.
VTOL will means that any neighbourhood (with a police-station , a bus interchange , a school and net work of roads) can be turned into an Airbase in a very short period of time.
Now F-16s can land in prepared LCK road , when we have the F-35 , we can lauch it in almost any 4 lane main road and fields in Singapore. Thats a big advantage.
Perhaps we can build a wall of containers covering the four sides of the carrier and leave the centre for the VTOL F35s. -
IMHO, it is one thing to be able to launch and recover a/c from out-of-base locations, but it is quite another matter to refuel, reload a/c.Originally posted by foxtrout8:VTOL will means that any neighbourhood (with a police-station , a bus interchange , a school and net work of roads) can be turned into an Airbase in a very short period of time.
Now F-16s can land in prepared LCK road , when we have the F-35 , we can lauch it in almost any 4 lane main road and fields in Singapore. Thats a big advantage.
We also need other supporting infrastructure such integrated C3I to run air ops effectively.
We also need to provide "ground defence" and point-air-defence to prevent sabotage and air attack. Try doing that to every bus interchange and see how much ground troops and air defence assets it will tie up.
I think Emergency Runways are to be used only in in an emergency as a stop-gap measure. We still need the fully equiped airbases to run air ops. -
S'pore joins 10-nation warplane project
I thought the RSAF only have 3 F5 Sqns and not five (see above).
Mindef in talks with US on involvement in developing jet
By Chong Chee Kin
SINGAPORE has become the first Asian country to join the biggest warplane programme in history, to develop the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter with the United States and at least eight other countries.
The Republic of Singapore Air Force has 140 planes in two A-4 squadrons, five F-5 squadrons and two F-16 squadrons.
The A-4 is a single-seater attack bomber usually for ground attack. The F-5 is a supersonic jet interceptor that performs a defensive role, while the F-16 handles attack and defence.
141
144
149
Anyone have any breakdown in the number of aircrafts in each SQN to make up the 140 combat aircraft.
SQN Type number of aircraft
140 F16
141 F5/RF5
142 A4 (still operational?)
143 F16
144 F5
145 A4 (Still operational?)
149 F5
US based
425 (??) F16
Sources from public domain only, please
