MALAYSIA TEST THEIR MESSILE
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Before sg can destory the A2 , sure there will be few Shorads and sa17 waiting for rsaf.
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Exactly, that's why you may need ground troops, or rather SOF-types to destroy it. Small unit actions. All this is of cos' dependent on GOOD INTEL.Originally posted by Anza Andy:Before sg can destory the A2 , sure there will be few Shorads and sa17 waiting for rsaf.
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actually thick vegetations make things easier....why? well for 1 you are going to need a cleaning to place those A2's.Those will be limited to start with.Sure you can blow up trees and make your own clearings....but thats gonna take time and will sure as hell alert intel that the A2's are in the area so it aint as easy as it seems.....Originally posted by observe:Tho RSAF is the top dog in SEA, its still no where near the capability of the USAF in Iraq where they had total supremacy over the airspace plus a whole host of satelites and JSTARS to help them in '91. Even with this, Scud hunting was not really a resonding success. M'sia thick vegetation is far more challenging compared to Iraq's desert terrain. -
SCUD plinking didn't work all that well in the last gulf war... what makes u think astros plinking would work any better?Originally posted by Tango1:Exactly, that's why you may need ground troops, or rather SOF-types to destroy it. Small unit actions. All this is of cos' dependent on GOOD INTEL. -
Actually we can pre-program SSM/ Cruisemissile to areas where there is thick vegetation. When intell will to report any movement of Astros to the area , with coordination , we can fire the SSM (with cluster munition maybe) into the area, removing them.Originally posted by |-|05|:actually thick vegetations make things easier....why? well for 1 you are going to need a cleaning to place those A2's.Those will be limited to start with.Sure you can blow up trees and make your own clearings....but thats gonna take time and will sure as hell alert intel that the A2's are in the area so it aint as easy as it seems.....
Singapore have been known to produce mines , y not jus mine up most of the cleanings on the map , minimising their operation area. Mines with destructable fuse will be good so as to clear it up after the war , yet we are able to slow the A2 down. Once the A2 are up , we are almost dead , thus the govt ( being so calm now ) should be thinking of a solution either to counter the rockets on air , or to destroy it before it fires.
The A2 test fire is on sea and if we are capable enough , actually our Sjoormen can recon great deal out of that. Eventhough we cant escalate the real firepower of the A2 on water , we can still do alot of calculations on it. -
SCUD plinking didnt work that well because of several reason , and most of it arent related to any of our situation.Originally posted by CX:SCUD plinking didn't work all that well in the last gulf war... what makes u think astros plinking would work any better?
The main reason y SCUD plinking fail because , Iraq is damm big . With desert terrain , it provides saddam with a almost 100% area to fire the Scud from anywhere he likes. Scuds being extremely mobile is hard to locate , once recon pick out the Scud group , air strike will begin onto it.
However if it travels in darkness , and out of the sudden fire from an unknown area . By now satelitte and Greenpine will be able to pick them up , which is too late , thus the Patriot will serve the last line of defense.
Y is it not related to our situation. 1) Malaysia is not that big. 2) Thick Vegetation disallow them to fire anywhere they like , thus reducing their operational area and maximising our chance of locating them. 3) They have onli 18 of those system to be use on two territory 4) We dun have last line of defense yet to block an attack thus removing it on the ground is important. -
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that bad till you have to edited it?Originally posted by Innocent_Malaysian:Nonsense edited -
viper52, why did u edit my post?
there is nothing wrong wif it.
i was sharing info about m'sian military, but i dont want to bother u guys at this forum so i put it here:
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=38650
and u edit it..and say nonsense? why?
i didnt even say anything. i just put the URL there.
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simple ans: irrelevant topic to this topicOriginally posted by Innocent_Malaysian:viper52, why did u edit my post?
there is nothing wrong wif it.
i was sharing info about m'sian military, but i dont want to bother u guys at this forum so i put it here:
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=38650
and u edit it..and say nonsense? why?
i didnt even say anything. i just put the URL there.
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doutiga83 can be my winess. he saw the unedited post.
i just put the URL there so i can discuss wif u guys at that forum.
i didnt say anything bad.
i swear.
viper52, just bcoz u r a mod, u cant simply edit and delete threads.
also the other day, flight cadet officer thougt i was "yourfather" and he said i was an idiot when i didnt do anything. then , u deleted the thread..to hide the truth -
if that is irrelevant, dont talk about Malaysian stuff againlah.Originally posted by duotiga83:simple ans: irrelevant topic to this topic
u guys always compare to Malaysia. its a fact. -
NOTE: I DUN TAKE SIDES, i saw does not means i am at ur side
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The post was deleted due to its irrelevance to the topic being discussed. I saw and removed the post before I saw the new guidelines on moderating this forum. I accept that my action is not in accordance with these guidelines and it will not happen again.
As for deleting Flight Cadet Officer's post a few days ago, I did it as he had made a groundless personal attack against YOU. It had the potential to degenerate into another flame war and my intention was to stop it before it happened. Thanks for repeating what he had called you for everyone to see.
As for comparing Singapore and Malaysia, lets just put it this way, the guys at BATM aren't exactly above that either are they? So why single us out? After all, this is a Singapore military forum isn't it? -
oklah...ill stop it.
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y not ST come up with a landbased Barak anti Missile Missile system?
Should be ok right? Place them at the northern parts of singapore and at military installations... Should be able to shoot down the As-2s. -
There is already something as the land-based barak missile in the market. I believe ST will not have problems manufacturing it with Rafael. It may be a reasonable defensive system agaisnt the rockets , however some rockets contain submunition which will disperse in mid-air . The missile have to intercept the rocket b4 it disperse the munitions.Originally posted by Moonstriker:y not ST come up with a landbased Barak anti Missile Missile system?
Should be ok right? Place them at the northern parts of singapore and at military installations... Should be able to shoot down the As-2s.
Y not have S300 which will can shoot down the rockets within 20+ seconds of launch.(maybe 30+km away ) The warhead may be armed with high explosive to down the mass of rockets in mid air , then with baraks to down the remaining few heading toward singapore. S300 will also post a large threat to the RMAF which tries to hold air-superiority over the peninsula.
The israeli and the American had been designing a laser defence system for years , and with current laser technology , i believe it will be available now or not soon...
Most importantly , our infrastructure have to be design to take in such attacks in case they throw in the first punch. Tengah airbase for example have been upgraded with blast-proof bunkers to absorb such threats. Sembawang AB shd follow up suit so that our helicopter which are the backbone of our rapid deployment can survive any pre-emptive strike on our soil.