USA war machine
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do u all know wad the US gonna use against IRAQ??
stealth bomber is a must i guess. -
5.56mm rounds??
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there is a modified tanks for desert use. anyone know wad model is tat??
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guess the moab also be using is it?
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Didn't know why but feel that USA is very sly
ask iraq to disarm,
we may not know whether Iraq have fully disarm,
but what if iraq really have disarm?
its like iraq is at adisavantage,
disarm or not they still going to be attack by usq.. 
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regarding harriers...
Marines Confident In Troubling Harriers
http://www.military.com/NewsContent?file=FL_harrier_031803
March 17, 2003
ABOARD THE USS SAIPAN - The Harrier fighter jet, known for its potential and its problems, will get a crucial test if war erupts in Iraq, Marine officials say.
One of the most menacing-looking aircraft in the U.S. arsenal, the Harrier is the only plane capable of lifting vertically like a helicopter and then flying at near the speed of sound. But questions of reliability and battlefield vulnerability have dogged the plane for decades. "I trust this aircraft with the lives of Marines. Absolutely, I do," declared Col. Robert "Boomer" Milstead, commander of Marine Aircraft Group 29.
Milstead pointed to the aircraft's successes over the years, including missions in Kosovo and Afghanistan and during the 1982 Falklands War between Britain and Argentina. It also was used "to great success" during the gulf war, he said, when Harrier squadrons flew more than 3,000 sorties, destroying Iraqi radar sites, armored vehicles and ground forces.
During the 1991 gulf war, five Harriers were shot down. Two pilots died, and two others ejected from their aircraft and became Iraqi prisoners.
Since the plane was introduced by the British to the U.S. military about 30 years ago, nearly 400 of the "jump jets" have become part of the Marines' fleet. Today, however, only about 150 are in service. A Los Angeles Times investigation last year found more than a third of the Harriers have been lost in 143 accidents that killed 45 Marines. It is the highest accident rate of any aircraft in use by any of the U.S. armed services, the newspaper reported.
Improvements since the gulf war enable the aircraft to elude heat-seeking missiles more effectively, Marine officials say. The Harrier's laser-guided bombs allow the plane to fly higher than it once did during an attack, making it less vulnerable to fire from the ground.
The Harrier was designed to provide close cover for advancing Marines. It can use runways as short as 800 feet to take off when it is fully loaded with bombs and missiles. It needs only a level spot on solid ground to land, an advantage that allows it to make use of bombed-out runways. And it packs a fierce punch, capable of carrying Sidewinder and Maverick missiles. A 25 mm six-barrel gun can be mounted on the aircraft, and it can drop conventional bombs as well as cluster bombs.
"I think people forget sometimes that this jet can do more than any other jet," said Marine Capt. Seth Munson, 28, a Harrier pilot.
"Maybe this will be its time to show everyone what an effective aircraft it really is."
More than 60 of the planes are on ships in the Persian Gulf, including more than a dozen on the USS Saipan. Others are on bases in the region. Mechanics say the plane is "labor intensive" but no more so than any other military aircraft.
"I can't say this plane has lots of problems," Master Sgt. A.R.
Timmons said. "It just gets wear and tear and you have to check it out regularly. It's a shame the aircraft is getting badmouthed."
But another pilot aboard the Saipan who did not want to be identified said one of the plane's biggest flaws is not mechanical.
He said the Harrier carries only one pilot and the pilot is asked to perform many tasks at once, including navigating, firing missiles, looking at radar and keeping tabs on the dozens of gauges in the cockpit. All of those actions are being done while the plane is within reach of shoulder-launched rockets and gunfire.
Many versions of the successful F-16 fighter have two pilots who split up those duties.
"I am not complaining, mind you. It's just a fact. The pilot is under a lot of pressure and at close range of the enemy," he said.
"Having said that, I can tell you for certain this plane can really kick some butt. And I think we will do that despite what some people might say."
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they'll use the usual stuff we see nowadays. . . F-14, F-16, F-15, F-117, B-2, maybe B1-B and B-52, and the usual awacs stuff like the E-3, and the usual assortment of choppers, although i'm not sure how they will cope with all the blasted san and all, especially since they started the war so late, the sand storms will probably screww up soem of their equipment
land-wise is also the usual assotrment of abrams and bradley and i'm not sure if they will actually take either M113 or stryker along. . . and the logistics stuff u need, I'm not sure about longer range weapons though. . . defnitely the M109 is already there, i saw it in an Straits times article sometime ago where the newspaper mistakenly call it american tanks, though it can be seen from its shape that it is a M109, i'm not sure abt the MLRS systems.. .
forgot to add, in addition to the choppers for ground support, they'll probably also play around with the AC-130 for effect. . . and probably get a navy to throw in a few dozen tomahawks as needed. . .They'll wanna use the UAVs too, it looks good in the news, whether it helps or not i do not know. . . -
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&ncid=716&e=6&u=/ap/20030318/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_costs
White House to Seek Up to $90B for War
2 hours, 43 minutes ago
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and about the harrier thing hmm. . . what about gases from the vents the provide upward lift getting sucked into the engines again. . . heard about this somehwere, thats why they did something different for the JSF V/STOL . . .and hey the harrier is revolutionary. . . how many planes can lift off like that? its the first. . i would consider it a success already. . .but then again , i do not actually know any of the marines who died cos of that plane or in that plane. . so its not really for me to say. ..
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90b ?? may as well donate to charity kaozzzzOriginally posted by duotiga83:http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&ncid=716&e=6&u=/ap/20030318/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_costs
White House to Seek Up to $90B for War
2 hours, 43 minutes ago
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They're gonna throw everything they've got...including the kitchen sinks...Originally posted by ETboy:do u all know wad the US gonna use against IRAQ??
stealth bomber is a must i guess.
But seriously, they are gonna use alot of those new and improved heavy weaponry that we haven't seen employed in the last Gulf War. Armour is gonna be the decisive arm in this conflict, as was in the previous conflict.
The interesting part is, what will they employ in urban fighting when they reach Baghdad? I mean, the conventional battles are gonna be a cakewalk as compared to urban warfare. COnventional wisdom has that urban fighting favours the defender in a 3:1 ratio. -
can't see anthign duotigaOriginally posted by duotiga83: -
guess is server down......Originally posted by ETboy:can't see anthign duotiga
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According to media reports, the Air Force will perform the strategy where thousands of satellite-guided bombs (eg. JDAM) and Tomahawks will rain the battlefield...forgot what the exact name is but what I know is that now, because of technology, precision munitions will make up a large portion of weaponary used, unlike Gulf War 1991, where the same type of munitions make up a small number but have extracted the most damages to the enemy. also, since Turkey does not allow the US Army to move inside their country, the 4th Division, initially the spearhead of the battle, would not be deployed first...the 101st Airborne Division, instead, will spearhead...
well, this is my 'analysis' so far, i continue later....