Name your Frigate Competition.
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That's what you think and assumed he did....Originally posted by Atobe:Did we have a "PRESIDENT" Harry Lee ?
Who promoted him from PM to President ?
Maybe later when sonny become PM, and daddy can look after him as President ?
BTW it will be doubtful if "Devan Nair" will ever score with the Government, not when the official position is that he was sacked from office while being drunk on an official state visit to Sarawak, and went bottom pinching ?
"Top of the line" vessel named after a "bottom pinching Pres" ? Sure will do wonders for the morale of the crew of that ship.
The truth may be much farther than that. Look at Francis Seow's books and you'll see alternative viewpoints. But let's get back on track here...its a military forum, not a political one.
Here's my nomination: I would like to have the frigate called RSS Seletar. It would be nice to see it named after some other towns/estates that haven't been included. -
RSS Gombak
RSS Woodlands
RSS Senkang -
Those views are not mine, merely repeating statements from the Government that was made on the embarrasing issues.Originally posted by Tango1:That's what you think and assumed he did.... The truth may be much farther than that. Look at Francis Seow's books and you'll see alternative viewpoints. But let's get back on track here...its a military forum, not a political one.
Here's my nomination: I would like to have the frigate called RSS Seletar. It would be nice to see it named after some other towns/estates that haven't been included.
BTW which Francis Seow's book are you referring to, as I have read two of his writing so far, and I would not put too much credence to his writing that is giving moral support to one of the same kind - who have fallen out with the Establishment.
I will give sympathy to most other guys that fall out with the Government, but will not be generous to Devan Nair - who had been arrogant and condescending in his treatment towards the Singapore population during his time with the Establishment.
Too bad that he discovered reality after his drunken bout. He could have been a better president, if he had done half of what Ong Teng Cheong had tried to do for Singaporeans during his Presidency.
Anyway, "Woodlands", "Gombak", "Sembawang", "Seletar", "Yishun", "Tekkah" names for the new class of La Fayetter Frigates ?
Sure sounds "ulu" .... no ?
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Hmm....I'm not too sure about Devan Nair's behaviour by itself...I was too young to realise what was going on. I've read both of Francis Seow's books too. I would argue that they are rather credible. If they aren't, they would have been sold in Times Bookshops in S'pore. If you are asserting that his books are not credible because of his falling out with the Establishment, then you have committed the fallacy of subjective bias in your reasoning.Originally posted by Atobe:Those views are not mine, merely repeating statements from the Government that was made on the embarrasing issues.
BTW which Francis Seow's book are you referring to, as I have read two of his writing so far, and I would not put too much credence to his writing that is giving moral support to one of the same kind - who have fallen out with the Establishment.
I will give sympathy to most other guys that fall out with the Government, but will not be generous to Devan Nair - who had been arrogant and condescending in his treatment towards the Singapore population during his time with the Establishment.
Too bad that he discovered reality after his drunken bout. He could have been a better president, if he had done half of what Ong Teng Cheong had tried to do for Singaporeans during his Presidency.
Anyway, "Woodlands", "Gombak", "Sembawang", "Seletar", "Yishun", "Tekkah" names for the new class of La Fayetter Frigates ?
Sure sounds "ulu" .... no ?
Very exciting....... There are other books such as one by former NUS academic Christopher Lingle.
The polarization of political system in S'pore usually works one way: Us vs. Them. If that is the case, then wouldn't people who are critical of the system in S'pore effectively becomes "Them?" Former cartoonist Colin Goh would therefore be guilty of such a label, wouldn't it?
I believe a system needs to be criticized in order to improve.
I dunno...does all those housing estates names sound to 'ulu'? Aiyah...then I guess I'll have to stick with my favourite...RSS "Ang Sua."
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Your points posted are much appreciated.Originally posted by Tango1:Hmm....I'm not too sure about Devan Nair's behaviour by itself...I was too young to realise what was going on. I've read both of Francis Seow's books too. I would argue that they are rather credible. If they aren't, they would have been sold in Times Bookshops in S'pore. If you are asserting that his books are not credible because of his falling out with the Establishment, then you have committed the fallacy of subjective bias in your reasoning. There are other books such as one by former NUS academic Christopher Lingle.
The polarization of political system in S'pore usually works one way: Us vs. Them. If that is the case, then wouldn't people who are critical of the system in S'pore effectively becomes "Them?" Former cartoonist Colin Goh would therefore be guilty of such a label, wouldn't it? I believe a system needs to be criticized in order to improve.
I dunno...does all those housing estates names sound to 'ulu'? Aiyah...then I guess I'll have to stick with my favourite...RSS "Ang Sua."
Francis Seow was the first(?) Attorney General of Singapore, and was educated in England, about the same time as LKY. His English is convincingly impeccable, and much of his writings on his experience are undoubtedly credible.
However, his support given to Devan Nair had to be given, as they are all fallen birds in the same respectable nest, and it will be pointless not to give support otherwise.
If one has not live through those early days of Singapore Politics, one can access the same speeches in the Straits Times archives, and it will be interesting walk down those memory lanes.
Verify the discovery by talking to anyone with experience and memory of the manner in which Devan Nair had talked down to Singaporeans, during his glory days as the Secretary-General of NTUC (not even a Cabinet Minister Without Portfolio), and as a Member of the PAP Executive Committee.
If one has to form one's opinion in one way or another, and not as a neutral writer - which I do not purport to be in all my postings on politics here - then I am guilty of having "committed the fallacy of subjective bias in your reasoning".
Great name RSS "ang sua" for the new La Fayette Frigates.....
maybe even RSS "Chong Pang", RSS "Pek Kio", RSS "Gu Chia Chwee", RSS "Geylang", RSS "Ang Teng".... -
RSS Sunami
RSS Shockwave
RSS SkyFire
RSS StormFront
RSS SunBurst
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Blohm + Voss GmbH Shipping the First Patrol Vessel for the Royal Malaysian Navy
Hamburg, March 26, 2003
Today, the first of a series of patrol vessels for the Royal Malaysian Navy has been floated into the dock ship "Condock IV" at Blohm + Voss GmbH in Hamburg. The newbuilding will leave Hamburg for Lumut on April 1 with the dock ship of Transhandel Bauer KG and arrive there at the partner shipyard Penang Shipbuilding & Constructions Naval Dock Yard Sdn Bhd (PSC - NDSB) after approx. 45 days. Final outfitting as well as the sea trials will be carried out by Penang Shipbuilding, the yard of the customer.
This patrol vessel is the first of a series of six for the Navy of Malaysia. The newbuilding l aid down in Kiel on November 13, 2001, which has been built according to the Blohm + Voss developed and patented MEKO® concept, has a displacement of 1650 t and is especially suited as coast guard ship.
The patrol vessels have a length of 91.1 m, a breadth of 12.85 m and a draught of 3.4 m and are equipped with two 3616 Caterpillar diesel engines each producing a power of 5450 kW. With two CP propellers a speed of 22 knots can be reached. The crew comprises 78 persons with a reserve of 15. The vessels will be mainly in use for the protection of the sea traffic in the Strait of Malacca. Stealth technology has been made use of to reduce the radar signature.
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that will be a fitting name for a minesweeper...afterall minesweepers do a lotta "bottom pinching"Originally posted by Atobe:"Top of the line" vessel named after a "bottom pinching Pres" ?
As for names for the new frigates.... after watching how the ang mohs try to pronounce the names of local places in the Amazing Race.... how about RSS Chou Chu Kang, RSS Ang Mo Kio, RSS Joo Chiat.....
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Hi All,
Below is the link to the "real" Name your frigate competition.
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We can select from the following names:
Names
RSS Achiever
RSS Allegiance
RSS Ardent
RSS Awesome
RSS Constitution
RSS Dominance
RSS Fervent
RSS Formidable
RSS Guardian
RSS Intrepid
RSS Invincible
RSS Kranji
RSS Merdeka
RSS Patriot
RSS Pulau Brani
RSS Pulau Tekong
RSS Republic
RSS Resolute
RSS Sang Nila Utama
RSS Sceptre
RSS Seletar
RSS Sentinel
RSS Singapura
RSS Splendid
RSS Stalwart
RSS Steadfast
RSS Success
RSS Superior
RSS Supremacy
RSS Supreme
RSS Temasek
RSS Vanguard -
most of the names up there is very boring and old grandfather leh...
serve on a ship with some of those kok up name can really demoralise siah.... sang nila utama??
constituition ?? wait malaysian up north make fun and call it constipation...
merdeka.... call AH PIAN (Opium) better.....
which uncreative group of babboon came up with that list???
might as well call AH BENG, AH SENG, AH HUA, AH LIAN... at least those would sound more familiar...
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Rss Gundam
Rss Macross
Rss Patlabor
Rss Vandread
Rss Evangelion
heh..see too many anime liao -
Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:Rss Gundam
Rss Macross
Rss Patlabor
Rss Vandread
Rss Evangelion
heh..see too many anime liao ......
RSS Freedom
RSS Raider
RSS Justice
RSS Calamity
RSS Forbidden
RSS Astray
i am hook wif Gundam SEED -
How about RSS Spear?
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wah lan eh win already. ahhahaaha....
RSS Freedom
RSS Raider
RSS Justice
RSS Calamity
RSS Forbidden
RSS Astray
i am hook wif Gundam SEED
eh go submit those ah, scarly can win....
oh you want also can add
Rss Strike
Rss Blitz
Rss Buster
Rss Aegis
Then must change Singapore's name to Orb-Morgenrate... lol -
imagine the PAP dress up like the Orb politicians.....more fashion sense....
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hhmmm....shld i try or not?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:wah lan eh win already. ahhahaaha....
eh go submit those ah, scarly can win....
oh you want also can add
Rss Strike
Rss Blitz
Rss Buster
Rss Aegis
Then must change Singapore's name to Orb-Morgenrate... lol
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try lah...at the most RSN get sued by BANDAI. lol. ahha later the indo and malaysian spy think we really got robot.....
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RSN Defiant
RSN Defender
RSN Dossier
RSN Dodger
RSN Dover -
6 kinda just nice for the Gundams in Gundamn Wing mah