Iraqi soldiers and Darth Vader helmets?
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Anybody notice the helmets worn by Iraqi troops?? Star Wars fans? -
brudder i think they think too much liao...Originally posted by bcoy:
Anybody notice the helmets worn by Iraqi troops?? Star Wars fans? -
I had a good laugh - anybody remembered the movie "spaceballs"?
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Didn't know the Iraqis are fans of Star Wars...
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come get your very own dark vader helmets at the showing of stars wars!! hurry while stocks lasts.... gas mask not provided.Originally posted by superspitfire:Didn't know the Iraqis are fans of Star Wars... -
wear black not hot?
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the somehow look like german helms
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Even the old German helmets didn't have neck protection like that.
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Lol, the feedayeen using 4X4 trucks, just like Somalia technicals.
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Dun look bulletproof...
If anything only attract attention. "Look dudes! It's vader! Concentrate fire!"
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they look like steel....if it is then it's pretty good better then kevlar...just heavierOriginally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Dun look bulletproof...
If anything only attract attention. "Look dudes! It's vader! Concentrate fire!"
Bangbangbangbangbangbangbangbangbangbangbangbangbang!!! -
I tot kevlar provides 2.5 times more ballastic protection then steel for weight?
Looks like it provides as much protection as the Vietnam era US-pot helmet. Can't stop bullets but can stop sharpnel. Certainly wun be able to take four hits like the british helmet. -
errr the kevlar helmets now according to my fren in the British army is used more to prevent sharpnel and other debris.....the steel hemlets of ww2 was better at stopping bulletsOriginally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:I tot kevlar provides 2.5 times more ballastic protection then steel for weight?
Looks like it provides as much protection as the Vietnam era US-pot helmet. Can't stop bullets but can stop sharpnel. Certainly wun be able to take four hits like the british helmet. -
Maybe the Iraqis trying to scare the american soldiers by dressing up as the ultimate bad guy in american culture...
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Hmm... really meh? From what I gathered, it appears your friend is misinformed liao. Becos about most of the other western world scientists think that kevlar is a better stopper of bullets then steel.
I searched up on kevlar vs. steel as ballistic protection, this is what they said:
Kevlar is five times stronger then steel, but half the weight and thickness as Fiber Glass.
It turns out that records I searched up state the WW2 helmets were not designed and can not stop bullets as well. This is because they were relatively thin. I can testify to this. I actually have a WW2-style steel helmet at home and the thickness of it is certainly not enough to stop rifle bullets, maybe even smaller arms like submachine guns. To have bulletproof protection to the head from steel would make it extremely heavy, though the thickness is enuff to stop most glancing hits from fragments and such.
It turns out that kevlar is better at stopping fragments as well. -
haha maybe i'm not sure haha well i hope he is ok....though he was sent to Iraq a few months ago.....Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Hmm... really meh? From what I gathered, it appears your friend is misinformed liao. Becos about most of the other western world scientists think that kevlar is a better stopper of bullets then steel.
I searched up on kevlar vs. steel as ballistic protection, this is what they said:
Kevlar is five times stronger then steel, but half the weight and thickness as Fiber Glass.
It turns out that records I searched up state the WW2 helmets were not designed and can not stop bullets as well. This is because they were relatively thin. I can testify to this. I actually have a WW2-style steel helmet at home and the thickness of it is certainly not enough to stop rifle bullets, maybe even smaller arms like submachine guns. To have bulletproof protection to the head from steel would make it extremely heavy, though the thickness is enuff to stop most glancing hits from fragments and such.
It turns out that kevlar is better at stopping fragments as well. -
even if a kevlar helmet can stop a bullet, won't the impact of the round break your neck?
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Dun think so, unless Hollywood physics works. Becos if you watch enuff CSI and study physics, you will realize that a bullet contains about as much energy then a softball thrown by a pro-league pitcher, quite a bit of energy, but not quite enuff to break a neck with the sheer impact. The energy you get when whapped with a bullet is as much as the energy of the recoil experienced in the gun when the bullet was fired (newtons laws of motion).
Therefore, people will not "fly" (usually into some large glass object) when shot by shotgun rounds like when we see in the movies, becos to impart enuff force in the buckshot to launch a person backwards will mean that the person firing the shotgun will also experience the same recoil force in the opposite direction when he pulls the trigger, newton's law in action again.
However, if the helmet strap is not on correctly or secured well, the bullet can knock your helmet back with enuff force to strangle you or give you a sore throat. -
Bring me to my next point. When people get hit by bullets, they are not thrown back anymore then the recoil of the gun firing it throws back the person using it. Another movie logic thing that people think works in real life.
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As long as he's not using the steel helmet...Originally posted by |-|05|:haha maybe i'm not sure haha well i hope he is ok....though he was sent to Iraq a few months ago..... -
the shot gun will not fly......but the recoil of it is very very heavy....i've fired 1.....the shotgun was made to basicly maim a person.....and it's effective range is a mere 20m!!Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Dun think so, unless Hollywood physics works. Becos if you watch enuff CSI and study physics, you will realize that a bullet contains about as much energy then a softball thrown by a pro-league pitcher, quite a bit of energy, but not quite enuff to break a neck with the sheer impact. The energy you get when whapped with a bullet is as much as the energy of the recoil experienced in the gun when the bullet was fired (newtons laws of motion).
Therefore, people will not "fly" (usually into some large glass object) when shot by shotgun rounds like when we see in the movies, becos to impart enuff force in the buckshot to launch a person backwards will mean that the person firing the shotgun will also experience the same recoil force in the opposite direction when he pulls the trigger, newton's law in action again.
However, if not helmet strap is not on correctly or secured well, the bullet can knock your helmet back with enuff force to strangle you or give you a sore throat.
As for bullets the recoil force is less then what is given off when u fire due to energy being dissipated to sound and also cuz it's expending gases that propels the bullet not pure brute force....also the length of barrel also plays a part in how much recoil there is and how much power is needed blah blah.....but on the whole steel helmets can and stop bullets cuz the soft tip bullet which is built the kill infantry will smash on inpact....... -
If kevlar cannot stop a bullet, then all the body armor worn by Special Forces will be quite useless.
Some bullets can knock out a person wearing body armor, and leave him with a severe bruise. A shot onto a kevlar helmet, will probably leave a heavy headache to the wearer, with much being dependent on the angle of impact of the bullet against the kevlar helmet - that is if it is a glancing shot hitting the helmet at a tangent, or a 90 degree perpendicular impact against the helmet.
High velocity bullets can still penetrate steel helmets, and those 1969 steel helmets worn by the early NSF in Singapore were WW-2 types, and used largely by the US Armed Forces during the Vietnam War. There were some reported puncture of those steel helmets during both the Wars - dependent on the angle of impact. -
haha true......Originally posted by Atobe:If kevlar cannot stop a bullet, then all the body armor worn by Special Forces will be quite useless.
Some bullets can knock out a person wearing body armor, and leave him with a severe bruise. A shot onto a kevlar helmet, will probably leave a heavy headache to the wearer, with much being dependent on the angle of impact of the bullet against the kevlar helmet - that is if it is a glancing shot hitting the helmet at a tangent, or a 90 degree perpendicular impact against the helmet.
High velocity bullets can still penetrate steel helmets, and those 1969 steel helmets worn by the early NSF in Singapore were WW-2 types, and used largely by the US Armed Forces during the Vietnam War. There were some reported puncture of those steel helmets during both the Wars - dependent on the angle of impact.
but also not the best body armour is the swat 1 with ceremic plates -
Make no mistake, your Kevlar helmet will stop bullets ONLY UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS!!!
If you're struck by a 5.56, 7.62 or 12.7mm round fired at close range and strikes your at anywhere near 90 degrees, it'll go right through your brain, kevlar helmet or not! What the kevlar does is to offer better protection(can stop rounds flying at higher velocity and at steeper angles) and lighter weight than the steel pot. The Brit squaddie was probably hit by rounds fired from a distance at low angle of penetration. That and the helmet saved his noggin (to use a British term)
We ran the old steel pot through 5.56 mm rounds at 100m, the rounds went through the front and back the outer shell and inner lining(both steel) EVERYTIME. Thats penetrating 4 layers of steel. That thing'll keep out no more than fragments and the falling rain.
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If I'm not wrong, the kevlar helmet was supposed to be able to provide protection against 7.62mm threats at moderate to long range 150-300 meters. Fire at close range confirm penetrate one, no doubt about it.
I think they got make K-pots which can stop rifle fire point blank, for the SWAT guys who use a level nine BA suite. Plus a Lexor visor.