Armoured Infantry Fighting Vechicles of ASEAN nations
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Hi guys,
I have found more sites that suggested M113 upgrade. Perhaps SAF could consider some of these upgrades
1. M113A4 Stealth Armoured Fighting Vehicle:
http://www.geocities.com/strategicmaneuver/sld026.htm
http://www.geocities.com/strategicmaneuver/sld027.htm
2. M113 anti-tank variant with twin TOW(Spike for SAF???) and 0.5 gun.
http://www.geocities.com/strategicmaneuver/sld028.htm
3. M113 Amphigavin (Alligator) - Ocean swimming M113, liken the US Marine AAVP-7A
http://www.geocities.com/strategicmaneuver/img036.gif
http://www.geocities.com/armysappersforward/amphigavins.htm
This will be useful to supplement the AMX-10s for the 21 Guards Div.
All these possibilities mean that SAF can potentially get a new lease of life from its large the M113 fleet. Not to mention, M113 could also be tasked with new roles currently not formulated in SAF, such as a mechanised air-defence platform, armoured arty rounds transported in conjunction with the new locally modified M109 SAF will soon be getting, engineering vehicle for laying mines or breaching mine fields, etc. -
Hey Joe Black, I checked out the site you gave:
http://www.geocities.com/strategicmaneuver/
i read the ppts and i think what this guy is saying makes sense, especially about the use of the 747s and M113s, I don't think its time to junk M113s yet. .
The idea of APS-6, with a Army force ready to go anytime is a great idea, the 747s will be able to land at all major airports, however, the problem of unloading them comes in, will the tracks of the M113 damage the runways or airports? i'm not too sure, but if they don't, then sure as hell this is a great idea! -
Hey Joe Black, wow...the links are nice...very nice..thanks for the links! Yeah the SAF can consider these options...put it together with our AMX-10Ps...that would give it a potent amphibious element...it would make 3 Guards very Marine-like...lol the scout teams would become macam Force Recon Marines...
I was wondering, and if any Armour guys out there can help me...is the Bionix amphibious? Not ocean-going, of cos' but just river crossing capability...thanks! -
yup think they r amphibiousOriginally posted by Tango1:I was wondering, and if any Armour guys out there can help me...is the Bionix amphibious? Not ocean-going, of cos' but just river crossing capability...thanks!
quite a sight to behold i think the m113 r too ? 
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I'm just not too sure about the Bionix ley...they were just testing it out in Oz in late 1997, and then shortly after I ORDed, the Bionix was commissioned. It was quite impressive at the live-firing exercise though...the 25mm model that is...Originally posted by ah san:yup think they r amphibious quite a sight to behold i think the m113 r too ?
The M113 for sure can swim lah...I sat in one of them when I was attached to Armour for an exercise...but a bit slow lah...about 5 km/hr max....and alot of procedures to carry out before flotation exercise too...alamak, nearly sank man...the driver just fresh out of 'A' course, so a bit scared, so the bilge pumps on the vehicle working like siow like that....lol
But it was quite an experience... -
Eh? How come got no stealth tank ah? Can build stealth ship, stealth fighter, but no stealth tank?
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do note that the M113A1/2 is a 5 wheeled tracked vehicle while the one stated in the links (M113A4??) are 6 wheeled.Originally posted by Joe Black:Hi guys,
I have found more sites that suggested M113 upgrade. Perhaps SAF could consider some of these upgrades
1. M113A4 Stealth Armoured Fighting Vehicle:
http://www.geocities.com/strategicmaneuver/sld026.htm
http://www.geocities.com/strategicmaneuver/sld027.htm
2. M113 anti-tank variant with twin TOW(Spike for SAF???) and 0.5 gun.
http://www.geocities.com/strategicmaneuver/sld028.htm
3. M113 Amphigavin (Alligator) - Ocean swimming M113, liken the US Marine AAVP-7A
http://www.geocities.com/strategicmaneuver/img036.gif
http://www.geocities.com/armysappersforward/amphigavins.htm
This will be useful to supplement the AMX-10s for the 21 Guards Div.
All these possibilities mean that SAF can potentially get a new lease of life from its large the M113 fleet. Not to mention, M113 could also be tasked with new roles currently not formulated in SAF, such as a mechanised air-defence platform, armoured arty rounds transported in conjunction with the new locally modified M109 SAF will soon be getting, engineering vehicle for laying mines or breaching mine fields, etc.
As I know the bionix are not build to replace the M113s as the Ultras are still useful.
All A-vehicles in armour can swim....except the AMX-13 (don't count AVLB, SLB and other engineer armor)
