Reuters reports that USN eyeing stationing "several" littoral combat ships (LCS) in Singapore.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-navy-eyes-stationing-ships-singapore-013943985.html
This was first publicly suggested by former secretary of defense Robert Gates during the Jun 2011 Shangri-La conference but no numbers were suggested then.
The LCS carries modular mission packages which can comprise either mine countermeasures, anti-submarine or anti-surface (targeting fast attack crafts).
Its far enough from China not to be seen as targeted at China. Singapore offers good/safe docking facilities with personnel hub transfers from Guam/Diego Garcia. Its also a lot nearer to hotspots eg Gulf or APAC region than US homeports.
Each LCS carries twice the complement of helos than the Formidable frigates but can share maintenance due to commonalities bet the MH-60s and S-70s. The paucity in AAW is made up by RSAF air cover which would likely be networked-link. The LCS is capable of speeds twice as fast as the Formidables eg 50kt sprint speeds.
2 classes of LCS have been completed with 20 more on order. Final number may exceed 50. This move will significantly boost ASW/MCM capabilities in this region.
I suppose this will take place long after LCS-5 is delivered. LCS warfare capabilities are still not mature.
The part about deploying to Thailand- will someone please tell them to stop buying Chinese weapons?
Originally posted by weasel1962:Reuters reports that USN eyeing stationing "several" littoral combat ships (LCS) in Singapore.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-navy-eyes-stationing-ships-singapore-013943985.html
This was first publicly suggested by former secretary of defense Robert Gates during the Jun 2011 Shangri-La conference but no numbers were suggested then.
The LCS carries modular mission packages which can comprise either mine countermeasures, anti-submarine or anti-surface (targeting fast attack crafts).
Its far enough from China not to be seen as targeted at China. Singapore offers good/safe docking facilities with personnel hub transfers from Guam/Diego Garcia. Its also a lot nearer to hotspots eg Gulf or APAC region than US homeports.
Each LCS carries twice the complement of helos than the Formidable frigates but can share maintenance due to commonalities bet the MH-60s and S-70s. The paucity in AAW is made up by RSAF air cover which would likely be networked-link. The LCS is capable of speeds twice as fast as the Formidables eg 50kt sprint speeds.
2 classes of LCS have been completed with 20 more on order. Final number may exceed 50. This move will significantly boost ASW/MCM capabilities in this region.
they are building these ships in oz for the us military with the technology and ship contractors using american technology.nothing is australian except the labourers.the reason why its not based in oz is because it would cost a bomb to maintain them in oz along with military personell.spore seems cheaper,faster and better.and spore leaves usa military alone and not interfere in their business in any way unlike some of its allies.there was a situationwhere the commentator over a radio said the the us military base in Darwin was under the control of an australian even!what gives???makes the us military or any military look like complete idiots.thats probably why the us navy chose spore.its an insult if they send their ships there only to find that its partially controlled by someone lese that isnt from its own country.
so its common sense to base them in spore as its a safer place at night as compared to oz plus they have MGM casino and all thpse american stuff thats more exciting in spore.
that is good to counter chinese air-craft carrier. several small combat ships carring attacking planes and other hi tech weapons is better than a carrier fighting group. togetther with singapore and Philipines own up to date navy and army should able to balance the power here. Also USA should try "to buy" over the heart of thailand people, Lao and Burma people by helping them in one way or other. This is what China is doing now. Buliding Lao's stadum for SEA game bulid highway linking Lao and Thailand.
Originally posted by Underpaid:I must have missed the part, I don’t see any Thailand deployment for the US?
And call me a cynic, but isn’t there a serious debate in the US, going on about the utility and cost of the LCS project? For all we know, this might end up as “invisible ships” stationed in Singapore, US budget cuts and all.
I’m not betting on any being stationed in the Phillipines, can be seen as the US arming the Phillipinos as they and China have clashed over the Spratleys fairly frequently. Too provocative.
"Similarly, 2025 may see P-8A Poseidon aircraft or unmanned broad area maritime surveillance aerial vehicles periodically deploy to the Philippines or Thailand to help those nations with maritime domain awareness."
While I share your concerns that the LCS program may turn out grossly underfunded, I believe it would be less tragic than say slashing the F-35 program.
The LCS program has been far less troubled because it is hardly cutting edge. Also, one of its multiple roles is to carry on the OHP-class frigates' ASW mission. Hopefully lower technological risk and a vital strategic mission will mitigate the impact of budget cuts, and in the worst case, fortunately all carriers are on track and 60+ of 75 planned Arleigh Burke ships are already on hand for any confrontation with China.
Originally posted by Underpaid:Anyone believe Hitman when he said the Aussies are building LCSs for the Yanks? I may have just discovered a salt mine, so big the pinch of salt I’m going to take this statement with.
So Hit, which type are they building there? The Freedom variant or the Independence one?
wsy, the LCS can’t carry fighters.
alise, with the reputation of being overpriced, I think the Navy’s more likely to pump funding into getting more “standard” stuff like the Burkes.
dont get pickled in the salt mine ya goin to live in the future.
news was in australian newspapers.just get off your ass and find it.
if u just turned on your brains for once,u will see that it makes sense for usa strategically to have them built in oz to counteract the threat of any wars around south china sea.but folks like u think being enslaved n being spoon fed everyday of the week is the way to go.what a slacker u are!:)
Originally posted by Underpaid:Which Austrailan paper? Guardian? New Economic?
And even more fail, what has “build there” got to do with “deploy there”? In fact, building there is much worse, shipyards near potential aggressor, not to mention their own labour unions will seriously revolt giving jobs to “foreigners”. I say fake report or troll.
So did your all knowing newspaper say which type? LCS Independence or LCS Freedom type? Both are made by different companies you know. (Most likely you don’t.)
I’m suspecting from your terrible knowledge of military matters that you’re just someone who wayangs on the topics.
say,..ya not very smart or bright.
u sure yer brains didnt get fried in the process after training for 1 year in NS???
eh????what on earth are u mumbling here about foreigners in aussie soil rioting because of jobs to type of LCS????.i should say ya either lazy or very stupid or have no knowledge on the internet to surf for simple info from the way u put yerself in here.
what do u mean its worse building it australia for us navy ships?they have very smart folks from MIT doing all the thinking for washington and the White House....are you from MIT?how about Harvard?Stanford?.......dont go around saying its all based on your own imagination and a lack of reality.
just simply google it and u will see the answers.just reach out on your keyboard and put the stick if its attached to your head and type.
is that wayyyy too hard for you?im deeply shocked they trained you for 1 year in singapore NS and u still need further help on info.
tells me singapore NS has failed to produce thinking soldiers.....
Originally posted by Underpaid:Terrible, I finally found out why MISSMAN thought Australia was building LCSs. It’s AUSTAL, the company, NOT AUSTRALIA, the country. The ships will be built in San Diego or Maine.
/facepalm
it was in australian newspaper just glanced it awhile before goin to financial section.
not my problem if u cant find it on the internet.as i said.,,,,,i found the info on lcs in less time u took to type it out here.
what is said by me is correct from the lcs if u could take some initiatves to search the info properly and to u being a muscle head .
Originally posted by Underpaid:Brainless fucker is brainless fucker, the revolt would be in Lockheed or GD shipyards, they’re already pissed at losing jobs to other states in America already much less other countries.
And you from Berkley? Harvard? Stanford? You name names, but I bet you’re not from either too. Hypocrite scum. Now I know why they didn’t want to hire you, immoral, hypocritical and illiterate.
no do your search again,.....u didnt search it correctly because there isnt much brains in you or absent of one.
just because u searched over the internet does not quaify u to be in berkey etc.i can imagine u going ballistics after u doing your psle maths homework.must be some kinds rocket science to u.
u are indeed brainless.
if im brainless fucker....u must be brainless....too bad im not gay.
Originally posted by Underpaid:Links? I did the check, AUSTAL, the company, not AUSTRALIA the country.
Do you even KNOW there are 2 types of LCS?
u can go live on a lcs for the rest of yiur life if u like it so much
its ok mental folks in oz get au$1000/week free $$.how i wish i was cuckoo.:)heheh
dont think u gettin any $$$ if u went cuckoo in spore.
Originally posted by Underpaid:People say Singapore ministers and their white horse kids will be the 1st to run away when war comes to Singapore. You run away even before war comes. Doesn’t that make you worse than cowardly PAP ministers? What happened? Can’t handle the competition from people better than you?
In the event of any war, the Australians will round him up and put him to work :)
Originally posted by Underpaid:People say Singapore ministers and their white horse kids will be the 1st to run away when war comes to Singapore. You run away even before war comes. Doesn’t that make you worse than cowardly PAP ministers? What happened? Can’t handle the competition from people better than you?
when war comes?i probably end up saving your ass and alice in some POW camp