U-571-The Movie
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Anyone want to point out the errors?
The torpedo fired by U-571 leaves a wake,so it is steam-driven.But in reality during the period depicted in the show,the Ubootwaffe had switched over to the T-II electric torpedo which did not leave a wake.
I also find it unbelievable that the German destroyer can miss at point blank range...
How come U-571's diesel engines are repaired so fast? With a skeleton crew some more...
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didnt watch !
haizs !
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wake is also caused by the bubbles frm the props but shldnt be that much.Also they seemed to have aimmed the torp way way too fast!!Anything else ar?? hmm....the destroyer would have and should have blown the sub up many many times!!Originally posted by Kevin-1982:Anyone want to point out the errors?
The torpedo fired by U-571 leaves a wake,so it is steam-driven.But in reality during the period depicted in the show,the Ubootwaffe had switched over to the T-II electric torpedo which did not leave a wake.
I also find it unbelievable that the German destroyer can miss at point blank range...
How come U-571's diesel engines are repaired so fast? With a skeleton crew some more...
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The main error is that the Enigma code was never retrieved by the Americans. Although this was somewhat mentioned at the end of the show to give credit to the British who captured the Enigma codes, it was too little too late, nobody remembers them anyway!
I do know that when this show was fisrt released,, it caused a considerable amount of indignant among the British war veterans and the British public as well. To them, it was a rip-off of the gallantry of the Royal Navy, in which they have an immense pride in, and I dare say still do.
Ah, If only more of our countrymen could have more of such pride in our Armed Forces... -
Ya,but the show is fictional.Originally posted by warspite:The main error is that the Enigma code was never retrieved by the Americans. Although this was somewhat mentioned at the end of the show to give credit to the British who captured the Enigma codes, it was too little too late, nobody remembers them anyway!
I do know that when this show was fisrt released,, it caused a considerable amount of indignant among the British war veterans and the British public as well. To them, it was a rip-off of the gallantry of the Royal Navy, in which they have an immense pride in, and I dare say still do.
Ah, If only more of our countrymen could have more of such pride in our Armed Forces...
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The submarine dive to an undesirable depth , it sounds like pressure on a cola can .....this unwanted sound is enough for the German destroyer's sonar to pick them up and pin point their location in almost real time - or im i wrong that the Germans dun have sonar for their destroyer.... Someone pls enlighten mi abt that , thX.
For modern day submariner , it is still taboo to go beyond a certain depth as it will cause unwanted sound produce by pressure acting on the submarine , it will betray their position .... -
errr no need sonar to hear the pop...hydrophone can liaoOriginally posted by foxtrout8:The submarine dive to an undesirable depth , it sounds like pressure on a cola can .....this unwanted sound is enough for the German destroyer's sonar to pick them up and pin point their location in almost real time - or im i wrong that the Germans dun have sonar for their destroyer.... Someone pls enlighten mi abt that , thX.
For modern day submariner , it is still taboo to go beyond a certain depth as it will cause unwanted sound produce by pressure acting on the submarine , it will betray their position ....
as for modern day well they do go beyond the 100ft mark.....(where popping happens) just that they do it when they think got no 1 around....or when passing under a layer -
I dun realli get this part ....... pls elaborate.Originally posted by |-|05|:just that they do it when they think got no 1 around....or when passing under a layer -
Layer means thermal layer or thermocline.I explain it very simply.Basically,when a sub hides under a layer,it is less likely to be detected.
The intensity of the sound wave made is reduced as it pass through a thermal layer,whoever is listening cannot pick it up. -
what Doenitz said.....it's due mainly to the density of the water i think not too sure about that....Originally posted by foxtrout8:I dun realli get this part ....... pls elaborate. -
K , thx u had enlighten mi on it , are u submariner or planning to be one? In fact its the first time i come across the term 'layer'....Originally posted by Doenitz:Layer means thermal layer or thermocline.I explain it very simply.Basically,when a sub hides under a layer,it is less likely to be detected.
The intensity of the sound wave made is reduced as it pass through a thermal layer,whoever is listening cannot pick it up. -
just read tom clancy. . .Originally posted by foxtrout8:K , thx u had enlighten mi on it , are u submariner or planning to be one? In fact its the first time i come across the term 'layer'....
guided tour around an ssn or something like that. mentions it many times. these layers are favourites for submariners. -
I must be ashamed , i read that book years ago and missed every piece of that infomationOriginally posted by laser51088:just read tom clancy. . .
guided tour around an ssn or something like that. mentions it many times. these layers are favourites for submariners.
.....lolX. Sometimes in reading i must confess that i do some skipping due to point blank interest..... -
Btw, no one watched "The sinking of General Belgrano' on National Geographic last Saturday ah? That was a true story of modern naval/submarine warfare during 1982 Falklands War.
Pretty intriguing..about how the HMS conqueror tailed the hapless WWII vintage cruiser around for days before sinking her. Perhaps they will show it again..don't miss it dudes! -
Actually, the explosion of the E-Boat class destroyer was the most dissapointing part of that scene. If the torpedo hit, there will be an explosion, followed by a secondary explosion if and when the magazine explode. NOT just 1 giant fireball.
But this being hollywood, of course it looks better if there are big bangs rather than a firecracker style explosion.
That still can't beat the Charlie's Angels II beginning scene where a RPG hits a tank head on and blows it up. -
as well as a tank bullet causing an explosion.Originally posted by kenhor:Actually, the explosion of the E-Boat class destroyer was the most dissapointing part of that scene. If the torpedo hit, there will be an explosion, followed by a secondary explosion if and when the magazine explode. NOT just 1 giant fireball.
But this being hollywood, of course it looks better if there are big bangs rather than a firecracker style explosion.
That still can't beat the Charlie's Angels II beginning scene where a RPG hits a tank head on and blows it up. -
Not to mention their reaction time is faster then APFSDS and missiles travelling faster then the speed of sound... and the truck can dodge in time some more...
And they have enough time to skydive off the place, when such a BASE jump means that you have to deploy chutes as fast as possible, not sail down and smile that retarded smile at the camera as if jumping from 20,000 feet...
In real life, the Angels would have been blown to bits, and even in the extremely unlikely even they dodge that, they would have splattered on the ground like water balloons filled with spam and red paint... great loss...
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Crimsom tide has some pretty realistic underwater explosions, esp. the part when the ADCAP blasts open the hull of the Akula, and you can see the primary explosion bubble, followed by the implosion caused by the water pressure rushing into the hull. Followed by the glow or air compressed in incandance.
Terminator 2 had a very realistic nuclear explosion scene... unlike The Peacemaker, where the old russian was unharmed by the nuclear explosion until the shockwave reached them (by right, they would have been burned badly, if not vapourized by the heat radiation from the moment of the bomb going off, before the supersonic shock wave reached them) -
when will hollywood bring back realistic effects that area actually real?
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If I am not wrong...Crimson Tide shows the sonar display console like radar sweeping 360 degrees...That is blatantly wrong...I guess they depict it in such a way to make novices understand-they would'nt understand the 'waterfall' display...Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Crimsom tide has some pretty realistic underwater explosions, esp. the part when the ADCAP blasts open the hull of the Akula, and you can see the primary explosion bubble, followed by the implosion caused by the water pressure rushing into the hull. Followed by the glow or air compressed in incandance.
Terminator 2 had a very realistic nuclear explosion scene... unlike The Peacemaker, where the old russian was unharmed by the nuclear explosion until the shockwave reached them (by right, they would have been burned badly, if not vapourized by the heat radiation from the moment of the bomb going off, before the supersonic shock wave reached them)
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I didn't bother to search the VCD, but I wonder if I did remember if they did show some screens of they waterfall display...
The "radar" display looks to me like an oversimplified Tatical Master Display... but do they have that in Sonar, Conn?
On the upside, I kinda like the way they carried most of the stuff in the movie, quite real to life, in most parts.
Though I wonder why in the heat of battle, when the Akula had already detected them, the XO/acting Captain called for the ADCAPs to be launched electrically instead of being blasted out the usual way with air pressure. You only fire your tubes electrically when you want the torpedos to swim out instead of making tons of noise being kicked out. Since the Akula had already detected them and there was a real racket of battle going on, calling for an electrical launch seems redundant to me, if not even wrong, for the ADCAPs would take longer to launch...
And when you go to the outside shot of the Alabama, you see that indeed, they have launched the ADCAPs electrically, without the telltale rising bubbles of a conventional launch.
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Depends, you would still get a trail of bubbles if the prop of the torpedo spins fast enough, causing cavitation... noisy as dunno what and something all sub caps try to avoid doing with their own screws...Originally posted by Kevin-1982:Anyone want to point out the errors?
The torpedo fired by U-571 leaves a wake,so it is steam-driven.But in reality during the period depicted in the show,the Ubootwaffe had switched over to the T-II electric torpedo which did not leave a wake.
Any more errors ??? -
i just learnt today that there is no way a helicopter can start mid air.
i feel so proud
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How did James Bond survive...
Oh yah... bluescreen...