Singapore Blackhawks
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In the Central Library Reference section, there's a SIPRI 2003 publication that states that in the year 2000, Singapore made a purchase of 2 units of S-70A/UH-60...
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Could it be a mistake, I know Brunei and Malaysia purchased 2 S-70s each for VIP duties around the same time...Originally posted by IAF:In the Central Library Reference section, there's a SIPRI 2003 publication that states that in the year 2000, Singapore made a purchase of 2 units of S-70A/UH-60...
Anyone care to shed light on this? -
saw a blackhawk over bishan in early jul this yr... came out of exam hall n saw it fly a few circles round bishan then head west. looks like SH60, painted in USN grey. coundnt make out insignia tho. USN or perhaps RSAF/SN evaluating? any thots?
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I believe it's an evaluation. In fact i believe the Naval Helo for RSN is the UH-60, manufacturer and all other military reviews has stated that the UH-60 is designed to be the successor of UH1H, using the same control only with greater capacitiy.
As the on board crew are RSAF personnel and currently the Air Force operates the UH1H which are due for replacement. so in order to cut re-training time and expenses and based on the facts above, it is highly likely that we will be getting UH-60 or any other variants of the S-70 family.
Take a closer look at the poster of the "Name the new Frigates" compeition, u will notice that the Helo shown there looks alot like a S-70.
I predict that SAF will procure a mininum of 30 to 40 initally for distribution to the RSAF and RSN and ultimately have a fleet of up to 60. -
60!!!! isnt that a bit high?
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ya boy, lol~Originally posted by tripwire:60!!!! isnt that a bit high? -
Think abt it, it's not.
2 for each of the 6 Frigates and maybe 2 for each LST that would be a total of 20 for RSN.
Another 40 to replace the RSAF fleet of UH1H which also provides air support for the Army i think is just nice. And note i mentioned ultimately, which could be many years down the road. Also note that there is an expanding scope of duty of both the RSN and the RSAF. Therefore i think 60 is just right. -
but we already have about 30 puma and 12 chinook right... add another 60 blackhawk... we will have nearly 100 choppers...
what are we trying to do?? heliborn division??? -
Hey..that's an idea!
An air calvary div...what an awesome spectacle! 
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black hawk down...black hawk down...
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do u think is possible that the new naval heli replace the UH-1H...is pretty darn old.......
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60 does seem a bi high....
I thought maybe we should have fewer "light" heiicopters and go for more copters that are "medium" or "heavy", like the SPs and Chinooks.
Lack of pilots is suppose to be a problem and buying so many "light" Helos will increase the need for pilots.
Getting more heavy and medium copters will decrease the total number of helicopters needed but still maintain the "total lift" capability. Just my 2 cents. -
thats a lot of choppers... but logical considering it'll be ASW chopper for RSN plus UH1H replacement for RSAF. but isnt U/SH-60 a pretty old chopper? UH60 entered service in late 70s and SH in early 80s... surely theres newer stuff like NH90 and EH101 that shud be better....
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Yes, I can just see it now. The whole mob flying about with Wagner blasting out of a loudhailer and a funny bald guy singing along, going "Kill da wabiit, kill the wabbit..."Originally posted by IAF:Hey..that's an idea! An air calvary div...what an awesome spectacle! 
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a hundred transport helo... including large number of heavy lift carrying LWSPH, terrex APC, LG1, Tonner, ammo and LSVs flying in formation is a sight to behold...
more so... if they are escorted by 24 longbow apache in the front and dozens of AS-550C fennec on the sides....
WOW..............
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lol yeah, faster than any ship, but more vulnerable too. . .Originally posted by tripwire:a hundred transport helo... including large number of heavy lift carrying LWSPH, terrex APC, LG1, Tonner, ammo and LSVs flying in formation is a sight to behold...
more so... if they are escorted by 24 longbow apache in the front and dozens of AS-550C fennec on the sides....
WOW.............. -
Hmm......what movie was that??The one about the vietnam war......staring charlie sheen......Originally posted by Gedanken:Yes, I can just see it now. The whole mob flying about with Wagner blasting out of a loudhailer and a funny bald guy singing along, going "Kill da wabiit, kill the wabbit..." -
Apocalypse NowOriginally posted by |-|05|:Hmm......what movie was that??The one about the vietnam war......staring charlie sheen...... -
oh yea ahha the wanger scene was funnyOriginally posted by IAF:Apocalypse Now -
Since we already have 30 S-Pumas, maybe i'll scale my prediction down to 40. The UH-60 is considered a medium capacity helo, and the fact that it is enlisted as a finalist in the RSN Helo competition proved that it is a considered option. Another as we all know, SAF have the tradition of buying tested platforms, therefore it is not a surprise that the UH-60 is being considered.
Infact by choosing it, it reduces the retraining time and the logistics requirement with a smooth transition garunteed.
my 0.001 cents worth
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Since we already have 30 S-Pumas, maybe i'll scale my prediction down to 40. The UH-60 is considered a medium capacity helo, and the fact that it is enlisted as a finalist in the RSN Helo competition proved that it is a considered option. Another as we all know, SAF have the tradition of buying tested platforms, therefore it is not a surprise that the UH-60 is being considered.
Infact by choosing it, it reduces the retraining time and the logistics requirement with a smooth transition garunteed.
my 0.001 cents worth -
For the RSN why not get 20 Super Lynx 300 with the Sea Skua missle instead?Originally posted by clarencebk:Think abt it, it's not.
2 for each of the 6 Frigates and maybe 2 for each LST that would be a total of 20 for RSN.
Another 40 to replace the RSAF fleet of UH1H which also provides air support for the Army i think is just nice. And note i mentioned ultimately, which could be many years down the road. Also note that there is an expanding scope of duty of both the RSN and the RSAF. Therefore i think 60 is just right. -
For the RSN why not get 20 Super Lynx 300 with the Sea Skua missles instead?Originally posted by clarencebk:Think abt it, it's not.
2 for each of the 6 Frigates and maybe 2 for each LST that would be a total of 20 for RSN.
Another 40 to replace the RSAF fleet of UH1H which also provides air support for the Army i think is just nice. And note i mentioned ultimately, which could be many years down the road. Also note that there is an expanding scope of duty of both the RSN and the RSAF. Therefore i think 60 is just right.
Should fit the role nicely in anti-ship n anti-sub operations.. -
we have already opted out the Super LynxOriginally posted by Paladin:For the RSN why not get 20 Super Lynx 300 with the Sea Skua missles instead?
Should fit the role nicely in anti-ship n anti-sub operations.. -
Your definition of a " tested platforms " as that of a system, equipment has ESTABLISHED / PROVED IN OPERATIONAL SERVICE in other countries - correct ?Originally posted by clarencebk:. Another as we all know, SAF have the tradition of buying tested platforms,
Then it is NOT TRUE & ACCURATE to say that SAF " have the tradition of buying tested platforms "
SAF have been first buyer / lead / co-launch customer for new weapons systems, equipments etc.Originally posted by clarencebk:
The above statement is not that accurate & factual.
------ UH-60 ----- infact by choosing it, it reduces the retraining time and the logistics requirement with a smooth transition garunteed.
It is like saying that say that F-16 was chosen because " reduces the retraining time and the logistics requirement with a smooth transition garunteed " since RSAF uses F-5E .
UH-1H Huey & UH - 60 Hawk are totally different helicopters manufactured by different companies
They are not only ONE generation apart but both of them are in are in totally differrent class.