Frontline - Channel U
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It's more conceivable to have an expert shooter than one trooper beating probability to tiok the baddie in the first episode? As such, I don't mind seeing a SHIRI-class terrorist wounding several policemen.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:I think the gunfight too drawn out.. but then if they made it like real life it would only last 4 seconds and jokers like u will complain it's too fast.
Ok, the *sniper* is coming. Too bad he don't use AWP.
Are they STAR team? I think their outfit is overkill. Thought they should just storm in weaving balaclavas. And the baddies, sporting what weapon only?, aren't taking any hostage. It's overkill to send them to hell, should just maim them.
We see the comparison between 5.56 and 9mm. It takes 1 bullet for a far 5.56 and several from nearby 9mm to kill a guy. -
Hmm... It's obvious the original intention was to apprehend them, not zap them. But the moment the guns came out, basic orders in all cases would be to take the joker down... Aiming for arms or legs when they are shooting at you is not a realistic option... If they survive, that's a bonus...
As for being dressed in full SWAT gear, that seems realistic. After all that's real bullets flying there. To move in on dangerous terrorist suspects with just baraclavas over normal dress just because they are totting automatic pistols seems absurb. -
Probably they wanted to prolong the dramatic shooting scene and dramatise the slow death of the baddie, but then they should have aimed for head huh.
About full SWAT gear, I believe SAS and HK SDU don't even wear helmet (usually) when dealing with terrorists brandishing sub machineguns.
I think the SOP in such a case (without confirmed weaponry report or hostage) is to send in police donned in bulletproof vest and carry Mp5 only? The last time they went to apprehend this guy with a pistol, was the STAR team there?
Too bad the lightning inside the factory was too dark, couldn't see properly the full gear of STAR team. Thought they looked too futuristic with their visor down. Does their visor cover their face or just the upper part? -
Erm, I think that time where this joker swiped a police 9mm and zapped the owner of the gun in the leg, I saw dudes in full battle, body armour and all securing the area with mp5s on the news. In the end the felon blew his own head out with the pistol, saving the professionals the trouble.Originally posted by Icemoon:I think the SOP in such a case (without confirmed weaponry report or hostage) is to send in police donned in bulletproof vest and carry Mp5 only? The last time they went to apprehend this guy with a pistol, was the STAR team there?
Too bad the lightning inside the factory was too dark, couldn't see properly the full gear of STAR team. Thought they looked too futuristic with their visor down. Does their visor cover their face or just the upper part?
To go up without a helmet against submachine guns is not exactly smart. After all a 9mm will still kill you dead if it hits your head. One reason why some elite outfits might choose to forgo head protection, something that proved to be dangerous thinking in Mog. Where delta troopers took unnecessary losses because they were running around in Pro-Tech hockey gear instead of the fritz. -
We all know helmet might save your life. But this fact was rather ignored at Princess Gate, 1981 huh? Did our guys wear helmet in Changi, 1991? Probably, but I only remember they wear balaclava from descriptions.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:To go up without a helmet against submachine guns is not exactly smart. After all a 9mm will still kill you dead if it hits your head. One reason why some elite outfits might choose to forgo head protection, something that proved to be dangerous thinking in Mog. Where delta troopers took unnecessary losses because they were running around in Pro-Tech hockey gear instead of the fritz. And from a rather blurry photo of them surrounding the passengers, doesn't seem like they wear a helmet.
Pro-Tech is not without its merit. I guess that's why VBSS Seals still wear them. I can only recall one D-boy dying from unnecessary head wound. His name was Tim Martin or something? -
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Definitely not fritz, looks like Israeli Orlite helmet to me....
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I think you mean "Gritz" Martin... no he wasn't the guy, he was another guy who got an RPG shot through him when it entered the humvee, dun confused for the other guy who was impaled by the RPG. He survived long enough to make it back to base holding in his own entrails in his hands. In the movie he was the guy who was shown blown into half, not exactly true and he didn't die on the scene, he actually made it back to the med center.Originally posted by Icemoon:We all know helmet might save your life. But this fact was rather ignored at Princess Gate, 1981 huh? Did our guys wear helmet in Changi, 1991? Probably, but I only remember they wear balaclava from descriptions. And from a rather blurry photo of them surrounding the passengers, doesn't seem like they wear a helmet.
Pro-Tech is not without its merit. I guess that's why VBSS Seals still wear them. I can only recall one D-boy dying from unnecessary head wound. His name was Tim Martin or something?
The Delta guy who died from a headshot which his protech obviously failed to stop was Fillmore. -
Apologies. Guess my memory fails me sometimes
Yup, Earl Fillmore!
PS: Felt the coolest character in the book was Paul Howe, probably he had lots of scene, that's why. Think he's son-in-law of Charlie Beckwith right? Too bad movie never showed much of him. Was he even inside? -
this episode sucks
half an hr was on the property agent, 10mins on the fella eatin lunch, 10mins at the coffeshop and 5mins on the sniper -
How come the bedsheet? and pillow case that color one? Issit like that in Combat Engineers? Also the cupboard color also quite funny.
Terorists as snipers is quite a novel thing right? They don't do this often and the US sniper incidents a while ago were not traced to terrorists. -
Sniper terrorism is common in palestine
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Palestine might not be good example. Pardon me, but it's like sniping people in a terrorist homeground.
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I don't see why not... sniping is not exactly a bad idea wat...
Problem is with Frontline is that it moves way too slow... for a 6 parter we are already half way through and we still dun have the sense that the story has developed much... on the terrorism plotline... on the subplots however, it has been overdone... -
If it's a good idea, how come we don't see serial terrorist snipers in US where rifles are readily available? Probably they're not as sophisticated as their PIRA counterparts?
They're going to take hostage later. I hope to see more sophisticated weapons like AK instead of a handgun. Imagine AK in Singapore! That will be cool
I don't like the way Ix acts macho. He don't even use semi-automatics when the spec ops guys are using at least sub-MG. And he's always in front. He's not wearing body protection! Wonder why he don't get fragged first.
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Can someone please explain why the "sniper" need to bring a flask of coffee....... and just casually walk out of the van without a need to hide the rifle. Even have a slip-free exercise mat to rest his elbows...
Anyone noticed the "2nd" Terrorist Video. It has the "brown" stain on the wall. So actually we can guess the ending liao. The ex-con is going to pinpoint the Terr hideout and IX with is chromed 6-shooters and without any body protection (except a 1-carat diamond) is going to burst into the 3-room flat and shoot dead half a dozen AK armed Terr without re-loading.....
Yeah.. the show really sucks... I really hated the "nurse" and "property agent" scene. Then sucks.... but the other scene like the husband faking illness to stay at home is realistic and "short".
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Hey comeon guys , dun be too critical.
The show isnt one on being realistic to impressive those who dunno abt such stuff and those who know abt such stuffs. Its arent a realistic action war film like ' band of brothers' , ' we were soldiers' that uses the word ' realistic ' to hit box office.
The main objective of the film is to educate the typical public on wat to do when terrorist attack , what the govtment is doing now to deter terrorist attack and wat can happen doing a terrorist attack. It is to info the public on the importance of our country's total defence , whereby the responsibility do not onli depends of the effort of soldiers but the whole population. And also to warn that the repercussion will affect every single one of us.
If u want a realistic film that runs along with ur military knowledge , sorry thats show isnt directed for u. -
I agree with you.Originally posted by foxtrout8:Hey comeon guys , dun be too critical.
The show isnt one on being realistic to impressive those who dunno abt such stuff and those who know abt such stuffs. Its arent a realistic action war film like ' band of brothers' , ' we were soldiers' that uses the word ' realistic ' to hit box office.
The main objective of the film is to educate the typical public on wat to do when terrorist attack , what the govtment is doing now to deter terrorist attack and wat can happen doing a terrorist attack. It is to info the public on the importance of our country's total defence , whereby the responsibility do not onli depends of the effort of soldiers but the whole population. And also to warn that the repercussion will affect every single one of us.
If u want a realistic film that runs along with ur military knowledge , sorry thats show isnt directed for u.
I think the everyday singaporean will be able to appreciate this show. If it is too complex, the average Singaporean will not be able to appreciate also.
In a way, this show will make those who watched it to be more "mentally" prepared in the event that such attacks ever happen to Singapore.
This show will probably boost our defence readiness better then a dozen x-ray machine at the airport.
Lets face it..... This show is not for Military nuts....
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So what do you guys think of today's episode?
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Finally moving a lot faster, but I still kinda wish they emphaised the terror aspect more rather the droning about, artistic maybe, but it hard to focus.
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I am starting to lose patience with this show..... ..
Why must the terrorists attack/strike at the hour??? Doesn't that make them too predictable...?????
And why didn't the EOD guy just say goodbye gotta go instead of just disappearing.
The show really try to do too much....
a. show off hardware - EOD robot and sniffer dogs
b. love love - Real estate agent and nurse, EOD guy and poly student
c. Singaporeans reaction to threats - coffee shop/"terrorist wife"
d. Prank calls (how did the coffee shop guy "plant" the bomb in a army camp???)
e. Terrorist are nasty guys..... (merciless sniper)
f. Our security forces are completely dedicated, getting divorce and also staying overnight in office....
And all these within 6 hours with a lot of crap in-between... -
Can anyone id the sniper rifle? Issit remington or something?
The EOD guy is a staff sergeant. Heard they call him staff neo or something?
Another question. Anyone remember the scene which showed the EOD guy resting in his bunk? Before that we see the brick wall with the words "HQ Combat Engineers". Can anyone id this camp? I don't think this guy from the EOD SCE (39?) right? -
From the rank, I thought he was a 1SG, but quite fast so cannot really see.
The bolt action of the sniper rifle look very fake, I got a feeling it is a prop and not a real rifle. But the optical scope looks very real. -
I never catch his rank. Where was it? Anyway I could have heard wrongly, 'cos they might have said "sergeant" too fast until it became "sar", which sounds like "staff" in a way.
Prop? You mean like airsoft guns? Hahah ... the optical scope, probably they borrow from SAF.
Call anyone tell me why they wear the vest with EOD letters? Is that like a bulletproof vest? What's it for? Thought it can't protect them from a real blast.