Should any one be punished twice for one offense ?
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Teletext on Channel News Asia (Page 116) reported today that an RSAF Pilot has been sentenced to 18 months jail and three strokes of the cane, for hitting a man with a beer bottle at Zouk.
The pilot was convicted of the assault last November at the disco.
His victim was left with a scar on his face.
The pilot may lose his job and forced to repay his bond with the airforce.
His lawyer has filed an appeal and the pilot is currently out on a $15,000 bail - CNA.
Should the pilot lose his job and forced to repay his bond with the airforce ?
Is there fairness for being punished twice for one offense - jail with caning, and losing his career PLUS repaying the bond ?
Why should he repay the bond, as he is being sacked and not resigning on his own free will ? -
its in the Bond contract...he noes it too tat if he commit any severe crime in the civilian world..tis is wat u will get..Originally posted by Atobe:Teletext on Channel News Asia (Page 116) reported today that an RSAF Pilot has been sentenced to 18 months jail and three strokes of the cane, for hitting a man with a beer bottle at Zouk.
The pilot was convicted of the assault last November at the disco.
His victim was left with a scar on his face.
The pilot may lose his job and forced to repay his bond with the airforce.
His lawyer has filed an appeal and the pilot is currently out on a $15,000 bail - CNA.
Should the pilot lose his job and forced to repay his bond with the airforce ?
Is there fairness for being punished twice for one offense - jail with caning, and losing his career PLUS repaying the bond ?
Why should he repay the bond, as he is being sacked and not resigning on his own free will ?
even if ur not a regular..ur just a NSF..if u commit a crime outside military..u r sentence to jail..after finishing serving ur term..u r still eligible to serve DB too...
breaking a severe military law is equal to criminal offense..cos it leave black marks on ur Civilian Data too -
Not withstanding the technicalities of the bond and its term and conditions as in the case of the pilot...a crime shall not be punished twice according to the law of 'double jeopardy'. i believe lawyers know this
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yes but if a person is a regular in the armed forces, he / she is liable to be punished twice. this is a well known fact too.Originally posted by IAF:Not withstanding the technicalities of the bond and its term and conditions as in the case of the pilot...a crime shall not be punished twice according to the law of 'double jeopardy'. i believe lawyers know this -
in the eye of military...its 2 singular law..so its 2 diff thing to them military law n civilian lawOriginally posted by IAF:Not withstanding the technicalities of the bond and its term and conditions as in the case of the pilot...a crime shall not be punished twice according to the law of 'double jeopardy'. i believe lawyers know this
even lawyer cant do anything when it come to tis..cos we dun have a Military court..like JAG
once ur court marshall..tat means ur guilty..n there is no judge..no lawyer..just u n ur RSM few MP or RP n a commision officer..the officer will ask u.."u plead guilty?" if u say no..the officer will still sentence u...shitty rite? -
Yup!
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What is this?! Is there justice in the military?
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nope
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like the movie Double Jeopardy?
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lets say ur a driver..u drive happily outside on the road on ur 5 tonner or watever..doin all the right stuff..left signal right signal..blah blah blah...suddenly a sport car drive pass u n bang into u..both of u stop check..u found out tat u onli got a scratch..the sport car driver apologise n willing to pay for the damage..he gave u his ic to copy down..u noe in ur heart its not ur fault...Originally posted by Icemoon:What is this?! Is there justice in the military?
when u got back to ur camp..u report it to ur MT line spec..or anyone in charge...few hours later u realize u r slap wif a 10days SOL...u have been charge wif an offense tat is not ur fault..
so no there isnt any justice..justice is urself..u can do anything u wan..but dun get caught..better still dun do anything stupid at all..cover ur ass is the best option.. -
That's why I won't encourage anyone to sign on SAF. Though it's a stable job, the risks are too high and damages (financial, physical and emotional) are too heavy.
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Eh, double jeopardy is a principle of US law, not Singaporean law! Don't watch too many movies and get confused, hor.
Double jeopardy is needed in the US because there are multiple legal jurisdictions (New York has one court, California another, etc.) If there was no double jeopardy, you could potentially be tried 50 times in the 50 states and punished 50 times for one crime! Singapore has no such problem.
Anyway, the SAF is not the only people who do this. If you are an ex-con due to a civvie crime in Singapore, your life is ruined anyway. It is more a matter of the unforgiving culture here. The SAF is just a reflection of how people already are. I see that the Prison Service is lately trying to rehabilitate convicts, and tell Singaporeans to give them a chance, but that is an uphill task. I wish them well though. Punishment should always have a defined end, or else it is torture instead.