About STAR...........
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Wah leow ... a firefight in the forest? I think the commandos can do a better job.
Wonder if they took proper cover and practised fire movement? Maybe they used MP5 and the range was too short? But the baddie used handgun right? -
MP-5 range is abt 100m loh...service revolver is 50m. so if the incident is true, the shooting took place < 50m.Originally posted by Icemoon:Wah leow ... a firefight in the forest? I think the commandos can do a better job.
Wonder if they took proper cover and practised fire movement? Maybe they used MP5 and the range was too short? But the baddie used handgun right? -
any PO who died while on duty will have state burial. prone-shoot, i think army fellas more used to it, snipers shoot prone too...Originally posted by eurofighter:If I remember correctly, all of them, including the gunman, were in a prone position. So it should be a headshot. ANyway that STAR guy received a full state burial. -
Somehow I think MP5 very hard to prone shoot, 'cos the 9mm magazine is a bit long?
Haha .. I know counterstrike snipers shoot AWP standing up, running, or squatting one -
well....STAR officers training shoot it standing, squat and advancing niah mah...prone-shoot they not versed. I know as i saw them in Crime Watch, never violate OSA wor...ha. I think common sense lah, when prone, u draw out ur side-arm to use.....its suicide to use MP-5 to proneshoot.
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well....STAR officers training shoot it standing, squat and advancing niah mah...prone-shoot they not versed. I know as i saw them in Crime Watch, never violate OSA wor...ha. I think common sense lah, when prone, u draw out ur side-arm to use.....its suicide to use MP-5 to proneshoot.
In CS, u can use AWP while jumping also...hahaha -
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for me... i first get to know them was the initial start up of STAR .... the police force actually send out lots of invitation to selection for they new unit to most of our SAF unit! i didnt atend the talk but i think alot of army guyz attend... and Cmd and guardsman was there as well.... and i think the best part is... they even have LIVE FIRING for you to try out their weapon... and i think alot of Army guyz whom wanna join them did tried it out and post their comment on it....... however, their first batch of selection shown how siong its... i heard... alot of of guyz drop out... if im not worng... their first selection was at Queestown there.....
as for their diving ability...
no comment but..... i was surprise that they have such an impressive web site well done! -
opss..... and bcoy.... thanz for posting this topic.... and i have posted this Topic before... as i was wondering anyone know more about our STAR team and DART team.... but i received no respond... thanz for posting the website.. cheers
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Removed it as got people say SMLJ OSA
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I am thinking hor, since STAR officers are police officers, do they follow the miranda law? (Opps, this is a US term, wonder Singapore got or not?)
I always have the impression SWAT people still can point their MP5 at you and negotiate, like in the SWAT game. However, if SOF point their MP5, then you 101% mati liao.
Haiz ... if STAR selection so siong, might as well join SOF. Haha ... the SOF guys have a bigger and more equipped armoury. -
STAR has a full range of capabilities. From naval assault, combat swimming to airborne assault. A little known fact, STAR is jump-qualified.
They have their own organic naval assault abilities but they do partner the PCG's STS (Special Task Squadron) unit in some situations. -
Makes us wonder their wartime mission even more
Come on, Singapore so small, need to deploy via parachute meh?
Koxinga, is your name Zheng Chenggong? -
No. I am neither Muslim or a eunch
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sorry, not airborne assault, its heliborne....yes, they got do jumping so that they got the 'wings' mah...they do not do airborne, repeat, do not, during their operations. STAR's initial stage of maritime assault is learning from PCG's STS.Originally posted by koxinga:STAR has a full range of capabilities. From naval assault, combat swimming to airborne assault. A little known fact, STAR is jump-qualified.
They have their own organic naval assault abilities but they do partner the PCG's STS (Special Task Squadron) unit in some situations. -
sorry to smash ur dream...this is Singy, not a Yankee state. When the need arises, POs will still draw their arm....thats why we have POs shooting criminals as we have incidents like that as said in the newspaper. But then, if STAR is required, it obviously means that the situation is rather critical already.Originally posted by Icemoon:I am thinking hor, since STAR officers are police officers, do they follow the miranda law? (Opps, this is a US term, wonder Singapore got or not?)
I always have the impression SWAT people still can point their MP5 at you and negotiate, like in the SWAT game. However, if SOF point their MP5, then you 101% mati liao.
Haiz ... if STAR selection so siong, might as well join SOF. Haha ... the SOF guys have a bigger and more equipped armoury. 
anyway, STAR selection is nothing compared to SOF's....and SOF's pay should be higher than STAR's. -
from wat i know (it may not b accurate) SOF's training consists of 3 mths black role and 9 mths green role
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My mistake then. Yes, they got their wings, it is now part of the training. I think it is for confidence building.Originally posted by chunyong:sorry, not airborne assault, its heliborne....yes, they got do jumping so that they got the 'wings' mah...they do not do airborne, repeat, do not, during their operations. STAR's initial stage of maritime assault is learning from PCG's STS.
As for their martime assault role, it is abit more complicated than that. PCG's STS is not a elite unit like STAR in areas such as CQB. However, they are expert mariners. STAR's basic water competency (boat handling) is a result of joint training with STS.
STAR's maritime assault capabilities if i am correct, are imported overseas from expert trainers. -
btw, abt what we are discussing in open forums like this, isnt it abit risky?
I think those who are in the know have to watch our mouths. Especially for folks who are under the OSA or have access to sensitive info. -
You're mistaken la ... Zheng Chenggong wasn't the Admiral Zheng Ho. The latter was a muslim and a eunuch.Originally posted by koxinga:No. I am neither Muslim or a eunch -
hahaha. u are right. But then again, I am not half Japanese. Koxinga is half Japanese.
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STS teach them navigation niah...ha. Thats published in out Police Life Monthly sometime back.Originally posted by koxinga:My mistake then. Yes, they got their wings, it is now part of the training. I think it is for confidence building.
As for their martime assault role, it is abit more complicated than that. PCG's STS is not a elite unit like STAR in areas such as CQB. However, they are expert mariners. STAR's basic water competency (boat handling) is a result of joint training with STS.
STAR's maritime assault capabilities if i am correct, are imported overseas from expert trainers. -
Abt the selection, i said i am guessing and told you people not to believe me. Abt other stuff, its all from the newspaper. Police Life Monthly can be subscribed by members of public also...so what i said is all easily accessible/obtainable by members of public. About remarks, its my own personal opinion which falls under freedom of speech.
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ic. me, it comes from my dealings with them as part of work.