Signal
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what does signal do in the army?
anyone care to elaborate?
what is there besides carrying a phone on ur back? -
who does signal here too?
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Not all of them carry signal set. Some work in the signal vehicle (unimog?)
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Ensure "comms thru" from the infantry platoon level right up to division and above. Not as high profile as armour and other fighting services but very vital indeed for any successful military operationOriginally posted by Bum Ble Bee:what does signal do in the army?
anyone care to elaborate?
what is there besides carrying a phone on ur back? -
The SAF Signals Corps had its beginnings in the days of the Singapore Military Forces and was absorbed into the Malaysian Armed Forces during the merger between Singapore & Malaysia in 1963. But with independence came the first true SAF Signals Corps on 1 Mar 1966, consisting of 2 Officers and 54 men as part of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Singapore. In Jun 1966, the Communications and Electronics Department was set up while the first signals unit, MID Signal Battalion, was formed on 6 Feb 1967.
The first immediate need for institutional signal training was met with the establishment of School of Signals in Jul 1967 as part of SAFTI. The Communications and Electronics Department was enlarged to a Formation HQ in Aug 1970 to cope with the increasing demand for the provision of essential communications in the SAF. 3rd Signal Battalion, providing communications for 3rd Singapore Division, was established in the early 70's. In 1977, the first reserve signals battalion, 6th Signal Battalion was raised, followed by 9th Signal Battalion the next year. The Reserve Signals Training Centre was formed to take on the role of training the NS signal battalions in the SAF. In Feb 1988, the vision of a permanent home for the Signal Formation was realised when HQ Signals shifted from Tanglin to Stagmont Camp. Over the years, the SAF Signals have made great advancements and bold strides. From a small unit operating obsolete HF and part civilian equipment, it has grown into a professional corps with area-wide trunk and data communications system.
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Hahaha, from what I heard first hand, Singals post is extremely chao quan one... lots of red tape and first hand experience of the worst of SAF red tape, tax payer money wasting projects, boneheadeness and the fustarating lack of end-user feedback.
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The first CDF (last time they called the post Chief of General Staff), was a Signals Officer. That is why a lot of focus on signals. Not sure about red tape and so on, but our signals equipment is quite advanced. Even before the focus on C3I, SAF already invested a lot on Communication equipment.
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huh?Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Hahaha, from what I heard first hand, Singals post is extremely chao quan one... lots of red tape and first hand experience of the worst of SAF red tape, tax payer money wasting projects, boneheadeness and the fustarating lack of end-user feedback. -
???Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:... lots of red tape and first hand experience of the worst of SAF red tape, tax payer money wasting projects, boneheadeness and the fustarating lack of end-user feedback. -
Some of the earlier analog equipment before truck comms era are still used. Still very reliable it seems.Originally posted by spencer99:The first CDF (last time they called the post Chief of General Staff), was a Signals Officer. That is why a lot of focus on signals. Not sure about red tape and so on, but our signals equipment is quite advanced. Even before the focus on C3I, SAF already invested a lot on Communication equipment. -
so how exactly does a signal do?
anyone does signalling in NS b4?
is it only PES A and B can do ah?
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Signals is considered a combat vocation. Like combat engineers, there are many sub-vocations. If you are a signaller in an infantry or armoured unit, you will operate VHF radio eqmt (either backpack or mounted on landrover) and lay lotsa d-10 lines.Originally posted by Bum Ble Bee:so how exactly does a signal do?
anyone does signalling in NS b4?
is it only PES A and B can do ah?
xiong or not?
At a brigade level and upwards, a signaller's job is usually different. He will be trained to operate more sophisticated stuff like those expensive trunk comms stuff mounted on unimog or he can be trained to set up the communications eg. telephones, fax machines, pabx, encoders...etc at the ops center where all the crabs and stars congregate during operations. Not so much line-laying but do watch out for the 26-pair cables.
One of the most 'on' signal unit is 3rd signal, which is attached to the division. You get to do stuff like SOC and unarmed combat
Some signal units are switched off like 1st Sig are manned mostly by regulars and couple of white-horse.
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You question is a bit ambiguous 'cos a signaller can be from the signal vocation (wearing blue beret) or from armor, infantry, blah blah. This grouping effectively decides whether the life is siong or not. You can be a rifleman signaller in infantry company and you do the same thing as everyone, clearing soc, unarmed combat ... and during mission, you walk with your PC or OC, carrying the phone for them.Originally posted by Bum Ble Bee:so how exactly does a signal do?
anyone does signalling in NS b4?
is it only PES A and B can do ah?
xiong or not?
I bet signallers with their long long antenna on their back are juicy targets for snipers.
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in a unit the signallers are signallers by vocation. so they r trained as signallers but get posted to inf, armour, etc unit as their posting. they still wear the blue beret even though they get posted to inf, armour, etc.Originally posted by Icemoon:You question is a bit ambiguous 'cos a signaller can be from the signal vocation (wearing blue beret) or from armor, infantry, blah blah. This grouping effectively decides whether the life is siong or not. You can be a rifleman signaller in infantry company and you do the same thing as everyone, clearing soc, unarmed combat ... and during mission, you walk with your PC or OC, carrying the phone for them.
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No, I do not mean this scenario.
The signal guys in infantry unit, at least, are posted to infantry unit first. Those in support coy went School of Signals(SOS) for course.
The signal guys in rifle coy lagi best. Don't need to go SOS. I think they're just certified by the signallers in support coy. -
hm.. tts not the case for my unit. in my unit they post in one groups of signallers men and specs who have come from SOS and they allocate to all the rifle coys and the sp coy.Originally posted by Icemoon:No, I do not mean this scenario.
The signal guys in infantry unit, at least, are posted to infantry unit first. Those in support coy went School of Signals(SOS) for course.
The signal guys in rifle coy lagi best. Don't need to go SOS. I think they're just certified by the signallers in support coy. -
You can see how screwed my NSF infantry unit was Never attend formal SOS training and still become a signaller.
Anyway I think everyone has to wear the same beret. If not, during battalion parade, it'll look very funny? -
Pes c can become signaller or not huh?Originally posted by Icemoon:You can see how screwed my NSF infantry unit was Never attend formal SOS training and still become a signaller.
Anyway I think everyone has to wear the same beret. If not, during battalion parade, it'll look very funny? -
hm.. i think mabbe can. and yes they wear diff coloured beret.Originally posted by Bum Ble Bee:Pes c can become signaller or not huh? -
They should put a flag on the antenna saying.... "Don't Shoot Me, I am just a Corporal".Originally posted by Icemoon:You question is a bit ambiguous 'cos a signaller can be from the signal vocation (wearing blue beret) or from armor, infantry, blah blah. This grouping effectively decides whether the life is siong or not. You can be a rifleman signaller in infantry company and you do the same thing as everyone, clearing soc, unarmed combat ... and during mission, you walk with your PC or OC, carrying the phone for them.
I bet signallers with their long long antenna on their back are juicy targets for snipers.
But in real combat I wouldn't stand hold a map and stand next to a signaller?? Sniper Bait! -
Signaller in infantry battalion level - siong if attached OCs, S3...damn frekking sinang is attached MO, S1, S4...see your heng sway...Brigade level lagi best, sure have vehicle to sit in...
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PC got no formal signaller, the platoon clerk doubles as one and they use walkie talkiesOriginally posted by spencer99:They should put a flag on the antenna saying.... "Don't Shoot Me, I am just a Corporal".
But in real combat I wouldn't stand hold a map and stand next to a signaller?? Sniper Bait! -
lol i tot signals also got lots of computer hackers...
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PC has his PC Runner, and this fellow is the platoon signaller. But on the ORBAT, I think he's considered runner?
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Yup, trained signaller dont have to care about the platoon-company comms.Originally posted by Icemoon:PC has his PC Runner, and this fellow is the platoon signaller. But on the ORBAT, I think he's considered runner?