RSAF Fighter shortlist announced
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Finally
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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/51639/1/.html
RSAF narrows down replacement fighters from 6 to 3
By Johnson Choo, Channel NewsAsia
SINGAPORE: The RSAF is one step closer to choosing a replacement for its ageing A4 Skyhawks.
It has narrowed down the contenders from six to three.
The six planes to replace the A4 Skyhawks had included Boeing's F-15T Strike Eagle and F-18 Super Hornet; Lockheed Martin's F-16 Fighting Falcon; the Rafale from France's Dassault Aviation; Russia's Sukhoi; and BAE Systems' Eurofighter Typhoon.
But now only the F-15, Rafale and Typhoon are in the running for what is expected to be a $1.7 billion deal.
Boeing's F-15T is a highly upgraded version of its F-15E.
If selected, it is expected to make it easier for the RSAF to integrate training and logistical support since it is already flying a fleet of F-16s.
But some experts said the F-15s, first flown in the mid 70s by the US airforce, is nearing its development life.
The Eurofighter Typhoon is a collaboration between German, Italian, Spanish and British defence companies.
620 planes are due to be delivered to the partner nations from this year.
As for the Rafale, it is a multi-role aircraft and 10 have been flown on the French aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, since 2001, with 52 more on the way.
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Double post
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what?? what about the F16 blk 60s? there were even rumours it had been selected already... and i thought the rafale was out? anyway the three planes are still good...
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Rumours are just that, rumours.Originally posted by wd1:what?? what about the F16 blk 60s? there were even rumours it had been selected already... and i thought the rafale was out? anyway the three planes are still good... -
Well, already the three planes are as effective as or even better than the F-16 Block 60s. Now comes the hard part...choosing the one plane between the three.
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So - the RSAF is indeed sticking to twin engined aircraft for this selection.
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An politics also. US president is paying GCT a visit soon.Originally posted by Viper52:Rumours are just that, rumours.
Who knows what kinda "extra" deal Singapore will be looking for besides giving extra chance for the only US-made plan in this round. -
maybe that is why singapore decided to make the annoucement now... just before bushy boy come to singapore...
i can see the american plane, system, weapons and engine maker scrambling to call up bushy boy to grab that last chance of a deal!
who knows... what the american might offered.... tomohawks??
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Wow...imagine one day RSAF will have a Strike Eagle designatedOriginally posted by Gun:An politics also. US president is paying GCT a visit soon.
Who knows what kinda "extra" deal Singapore will be looking for besides giving extra chance for the only US-made plan in this round.
F-15S. That'll be super duper!
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lol, I like the theory that mindef make the announcement now so that they can see what kind of extra stuff bush wanna offer with their plane. i think Sg should stick with some european offer this time round, must show that cannot always depend on the US, and also, if Sg buys US again, when Sg switch to using 2 aircraft types, Sg is quite screwed if they dun wanna release spares or whatever, cos stuff like the A-4 and F-5 so old that u can always find spares from other countries, F-16 and F-15T both new, spares will most likely all have to come from US, qutie risky to have all stuff coming from there, even if they're very friendly
also, Sg will prob get more tech transfer with the european planes, but thats just what i think, not very sure abt this. ..
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Singapore shortlists 3 firms for warplane order : Forbes
RSAF narrows down replacement fighters from 6 to 3 : CNA
Eurofighter Typhoon downselect in Singapore
: PRNewswire
Singapore short-lists Dassault, Boeing, Eurofighter for fighter jet deal : CNA
Singapore excludes Lockheed from fighter deal : Financial Times
European warplanes dominate Mindef shortlist : Straits Times -
Great, I am just so "happy" that Rafale made it to the shortlist. At least the selection progress is obviously base more on technical merits than political ones.
It is logical to drop Block 60 Vipers as there are rumours that RSAF are going for some form of upgrade of the current Block 52/+ to Block 60. If RSAF indeed is going for this option, then buying Block 60 negates the "extras" the NGF would bring to RSAF.
Will be interesting to see who will become the eventual winning and the reason behind it.
This time round, the political weightage for going with Europe rather than US should be less of an issue given Singapore's well-known stance about Bush's war on terrorism. Furthermore, Eurofighter and Rafale are both equipped with Link 16 makes integration of the new fighters with US assets a non issue. I also like to see a European system this time given that both EADS and Dassult are willing to transfer technology to ST Aero. Spare parts will also be less of an issues with the European suppliers. Finally, F-15 is after all a 60s design. Their upgrade path will be limited, plus Singapore would be getting a version only Singapore and Korea will be using.... bad for maintenance cost. If ROI and Cost of Ownership is to go by, Typhoon and Rafale will be ahead. -
F15S is for Saudi Arabia, Singapore's version is the F15T.Originally posted by IAF:Wow...imagine one day RSAF will have a Strike Eagle designated
F-15S. That'll be super duper! -
Hope to see F-18 but then F-18 is a carrier platform aircraft
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just wondering have da euro and rafale seen REAL major combat b4?????
does it have a proven track record?????
from wat i see da US fighters seem 2 have tis advantage?????(correct mi if i'm wrong) -
well, so much for all the insider news....
Anyway, glad to see the F16 out, even though I love that plane, but wants to see a much newer design, with better capabilities. -
Rafales have seen actions in Afaganistan last year.Originally posted by 35MM Gunner:just wondering have da euro and rafale seen REAL major combat b4?????
does it have a proven track record?????
from wat i see da US fighters seem 2 have tis advantage?????(correct mi if i'm wrong) -
same thinking alsoOriginally posted by warspite:well, so much for all the insider news....
Anyway, glad to see the F16 out, even though I love that plane, but wants to see a much newer design, with better capabilities. ...finally i feel so happy
F-15T, Rafale, Typhoon
Nw this is hard to choose ...btw is this the 1st time RSAF selected french fighters in top 3 list? 
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partly bcos out neighbour going to acquire Super Bug also......Originally posted by X-men:Hope to see F-18 but then F-18 is a carrier platform aircraft -
add more news
from Boeing
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases...nr_031010m.html
Boeing F-15T Short-Listed For Singapore
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ST. LOUIS, October 10, 2003 –The Government of Singapore has selected the Boeing [NYSE:BA] F-15T Strike Eagle as one of three aircraft in the short-list of platforms to be evaluated in the Invitation to Tender phase of Singapore’s Next Fighter Replacement Program.
The Boeing F-15T Strike Eagle was among six fighter aircraft under consideration.
“Boeing respects the thorough and comprehensive nature of the evaluation and selection criteria, and we are pleased and honored that Singapore has selected the F-15T Strike Eagle,” said Doug Miller, vice president of Business Development, Asia Pacific, for Boeing Integrated Defense Systems. “This selection reinforces the outstanding, proven performance of the F-15. We stand ready to support this next phase of the evaluation.”
The Boeing F-15T Strike Eagle is based on the F-15E, the most capable multirole fighter in the U.S. Air Force inventory. Boeing has produced more than 1,500 F-15s during the past three decades. In addition to the United States, Korea, Japan, Saudi Arabia and Israel are F-15 customers.
A unit of The Boeing Company, Integrated Defense Systems is one of the world's largest space and defense businesses. Headquartered in St. Louis, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is a $25 billion business. It provides systems solutions to its global military, government and commercial customers. It is a leading provider of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; the world's largest military aircraft manufacturer; the world's largest satellite manufacturer and a leading provider of space-based communications; the primary systems integrator for U.S. missile defense; NASA's largest contractor; and a global leader in launch services.
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as long give some to changi can liaoOriginally posted by X-men:Hope to see F-18 but then F-18 is a carrier platform aircraft -
i wonder which one makans the least fuel...
hmmmmmmmmmmm i'm beginning to think like SAF -
interesting to note:Originally posted by kopiosatu:i wonder which one makans the least fuel...
hmmmmmmmmmmm i'm beginning to think like SAF
if acquire F-15T
last F-15 operator
Typhoon 2nd export operator
Rafale 1st export operator -
Wrong S'pore will be the 3rd export customer outside the euro consortium... behind Austria snd Greece...
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but greece is not confirm yet due to the budget constriant...so no agreement is signOriginally posted by Typhoon:Wrong S'pore will be the 3rd export customer outside the euro consortium... behind Austria snd Greece...