unauthorised training caused the death of a national service
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whoa!Originally posted by Gedanken:Very well then. In fact, I read this post before I read the other.
Puke, yawn - you're a troll, so don't go throwing your toys out of the pram when you are called up on it.
Now you post is there in all of its charmless glory, and it is utter bilge. Like I said, don't go hiding behind that "what I meant was" rubbish. Either stop acting like a panty-liner pansy, or stop talking about being a man because you haven't the slightest clue.
bravo!!!
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Okay, so I've spent way too much time on forums!
Noticed your sig, Heng - give www.f1forums.com a try. -
oh hey ok!Originally posted by Gedanken:Okay, so I've spent way too much time on forums!
Noticed your sig, Heng - give www.f1forums.com a try.
thanks!
who u support? -
guys..for your info..
according to my dad...this is the 2nd time that someone die in CST..
many years back another malay NSF die the same way.. -
Okay, going O/T here but:
I'm a Mac guy - always have been (since the Senna days), always will be. For God's sake, I hope they come up with the MP4/19 next years and not the 4/18B. The last few years have been an absolute joke where Mac is concerned, since they banned beryllium in engines - Mercedes has a lot of catching up to do. -
To NathanG5,
All along in my post, I did not mention who's rite and who's wrong. So I guess there is no need to ans ur other qns...
As for how the parents of the dead feel, it is already talk abt in my 1st posting... -
SAME!!! Mac fan since 86!!!Originally posted by Gedanken:Okay, going O/T here but:
I'm a Mac guy - always have been (since the Senna days), always will be. For God's sake, I hope they come up with the MP4/19 next years and not the 4/18B. The last few years have been an absolute joke where Mac is concerned, since they banned beryllium in engines - Mercedes has a lot of catching up to do. -
rest in peace....... -
the FIA is pro-Ferrari..
but back to the topic...
it is AMAZING that many do not see the gravity of the situation... that someone has died tragically and pointlessly..
yet, somehow, people are sort of jaded and desensitised to the death of the victim...
whatever happen to humanity?
i guess this is the ultimate the idiots who are pro-military want.. a brainless, unquestioning, unthinking machine...
it has been said that the worse enemy of all militaries is a person with a conscience who is not afraid to use it..Originally posted by Gedanken:Okay, going O/T here but:
I'm a Mac guy - always have been (since the Senna days), always will be. For God's sake, I hope they come up with the MP4/19 next years and not the 4/18B. The last few years have been an absolute joke where Mac is concerned, since they banned beryllium in engines - Mercedes has a lot of catching up to do. -
wha lau eh...
is she running the course?
I wanna go liao...
lol.......
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u sure? in your older post..u hinted the death of that 2nd Sgt as predestined..aint that telling us that he deserve to die?Originally posted by lotus:To NathanG5,
All along in my post, I did not mention who's rite and who's wrong. So I guess there is no need to ans ur other qns...
As for how the parents of the dead feel, it is already talk abt in my 1st posting...
dont give me the crap that u didnt..cmon admit it like a man..
according to my memory this is your 1st post..--->I have lost touch with army long time liao, and I dunno abt the things there. One thing for sure, NSF will never have the rank of 2nd SGT. The reports may be wrong in mentioning the NS status of the soldiers, sometimes in articles, they wrote active NSF as NSman.. (NSman title is for those who already ORD).
cmon stop twisting your words..maybe u are the one who like twistee?
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To Gedanken
Hope u are following my point correctly all these while. My 'MY' is refering to a country up north.
I guess it is my standard of english is too poor for you to understand or it is the otherwise...
anyway, there is no point continuing to debate since we talked like chicken n duck.. -
Bear! Gedaken! u 2 almost think like i do! wahhh,.... steady lah....
anyway, guys, i think its not worth it to continue on with lotus... that guy cannot get any logic into him... i've already stopped trying... just let him be and ignore him. -
NathanG5,
soo sorry for my poor memory, yes u are rite.. it shldn't be my 1st posting regarding this topic....as it is irrelavant. My 1st posting talk about the rank only (abt a NSF can't be a 2nd Sgt). Full stop for this,end of story.
For those who died serving the SAF during peace time, it is a loss to SG as there are lesser and lesser males to do NS. Also my sympathies to the family of the late for the pain and anguish they are going thru. Life and death is already predestined. When the time for a person is up, no matter what he/she is doing, they will leave this world. There are news reported that a healthy person could die when sleeping etc... Get what I am trying to say?
I wasn't refering to anybody at all. Perhaps you will understand when I used me myself as an example.. from the beginning, I shld type "I am alive and kicking busy defending my myself now, maybe when I go to bed tonite, I won't be able to wake up again cos it is predestined." -
"Country up north?". Ooooh, man of mystery. No, wait, let me guess. You'd tell me but then you'd have to kill me.Originally posted by lotus:To Gedanken
Hope u are following my point correctly all these while. My 'MY' is refering to a country up north.
I guess it is my standard of english is too poor for you to understand or it is the otherwise... anyway, there is no point continuing to debate since we talked like chicken n duck..
And bullsh*t is bullsh*t regardless of what language it is spoken in. -
are u saying u have been bullshitting all these while..... ok, dun bother to reply...
we are really out of track to this topic... -
Ferrari? Puh-lease. They were going nowhere until Mister I'll-win-my-championships-by-bumping cars-off-the-road and his cheating cronies came along. 6-time WDC? PTOOI! What kind of World Champion needs team orders and a #2 driver to play tail gunner? And of course, the farce has been made even greater since the FIA decided to hire management and stewards from the WWF.Originally posted by HENG@:Bear! Gedaken! u 2 almost think like i do! wahhh,.... steady lah.... -
Oooh, very clever, lotus. Too bad your keyboard's in sixth gear while your brain's in neutral.
Well, you said to read you post. I did, and showed how utterly and completely full of crap you are.
The ball is in your court. Are you going to try and defend your position, or are you going to run off with your tail between your legs like the pansy I take you to be?
Yup, thought so. -
just a sentence for you...
human life is sacred... respect it...Originally posted by lotus:are u saying u have been bullshitting all these while..... ok, dun bother to reply...
we are really out of track to this topic... -
wish every 1 in tis world understands tatOriginally posted by the Bear:just a sentence for you...
human life is sacred... respect it...
then we wudnt have 2 train so hard just 4 our survival -
U guys really don't understand my English....Originally posted by the Bear:just a sentence for you...
human life is sacred... respect it...
Do u know that while I am typing this, many pple around the earth die and many babies are born too?
"human life is sacred... respect it..." Depending on how u look into it and where you are. Many africans are dying of hunger, so did u offer your help? Try telling this words to suicide bombers.
Did u voice your displeasure when stray animals have to be put down? chickens, pigs and cows were slaughtered because they carrried diseases harmful to man, did u voice your unhappiness out across to pple? Animals have the rights to live on this planet earth too although we, man, consider them as food.. -
we do what we can...
does it mean we cannot save the world we should not give a damn anymore?
what have you done today?
don't even try to attempt to justify your callous nature.. you know how hollow and empty it is..
don't talk about animals and all that and equate them to humans.. maybe yourself if you want to.. BUT NEVER EVER refer to others as so... YOU HAVE NO RIGHT!
think about it...
someone has died.. tragically.. pointlessly because some gungho idiot who figured a human life was as worthless as you think it is, abused another human being.. and it caused that person's death..
diminished responsibility?
if he argues that, it bodes ill for the whole of the armed forces... it means that they do not have to shoulder any personal responsibility for their own actions...
what does the army teach? Mob and Pack mentality?
to be gangsters, ruffians, mobs and bullies?
you seem to think so..Originally posted by lotus:U guys really don't understand my English....
Do u know that while I am typing this, many pple around the earth die and many babies are born too?
"human life is sacred... respect it..." Depending on how u look into it and where you are. Many africans are dying of hunger, so did u offer your help? Try telling this words to suicide bombers.
Did u voice your displeasure when stray animals have to be put down? chickens, pigs and cows were slaughtered because they carrried diseases harmful to man, did u voice your unhappiness out across to pple? Animals have the rights to live on this planet earth too although we, man, consider them as food.. -
if i shoot u now..n u die..n someone say hey its predestined that u die..so its not my fault..how u gona feel?Originally posted by lotus:U guys really don't understand my English....
Do u know that while I am typing this, many pple around the earth die and many babies are born too?
"human life is sacred... respect it..." Depending on how u look into it and where you are. Many africans are dying of hunger, so did u offer your help? Try telling this words to suicide bombers.
Did u voice your displeasure when stray animals have to be put down? chickens, pigs and cows were slaughtered because they carrried diseases harmful to man, did u voice your unhappiness out across to pple? Animals have the rights to live on this planet earth too although we, man, consider them as food..
there are a few kind of death..some die by sickness..some die naturally...but some got murdered..we are tryin to help as much as we can!!!
pls learn to respect life..before u go around telling people that its no big deal someone die n no one at fault.... -
Oh, man, this is just way too rich!
Let's just take a look at what lotus has been saying so far:Do u know that while I am typing this, many pple around the earth die and many babies are born too?
Oh, my bleeding heart! The humanity! This coming from a guy who said:
"human life is sacred... respect it..." Depending on how u look into it and where you are. Many africans are dying of hunger, so did u offer your help? Try telling this words to suicide bombers.
Did u voice your displeasure when stray animals have to be put down? chickens, pigs and cows were slaughtered because they carrried diseases harmful to man, did u voice your unhappiness out across to pple? Animals have the rights to live on this planet earth too although we, man, consider them as food..Life and death is already predestined. When the time for a person is up, no matter what he/she is doing, they will leave this world.
Lotus, in your attempt to wriggle out of a tight spot, you have very clearly demonstrated your hypocrisy. Instead of dealing with the issues raised by your post, you have tried to worm your way out with some tired old cliches to make yourself look warm and fuzzy, and only ended up contradicting yourself.
I am still waiting for you to attempt to defend your position. I would ask you to put your money where your mouth is, but it looks like your foot's taking up too much room. -
Originally posted by HENG@:SAME!!! Mac fan since 86!!!
since 86? i thought u are 20 this year?
86 was a brilliant year for Prost altho i always felt very sorry for Mansell for blowing up his tyres in Adelaide when he really should have won the championship.