Singapore Armed Forces to go to Iraq?!
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WTF?!
The Chan i news just said that may happen?! -
Originally posted by |-|05|:WTF?!
The Chan i news just said that may happen?!
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confirm bo? like this some poor guy siong liao lo............
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YAY~ overseas attachment~ moneyyyyyyyyyyyy~!
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nw i gonna have heart attack liao
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Dun worry NSF & NS men will not be involved unless they volunteer if they going to send soldier over to Iraq.
For regulars, they might have to by mostly volunteer basis, if there are insufficient number, they might be forced to. The price to be a professional soldier. -
i volunteer~!
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why? you in those company that is most likely to get selected meh? and are you a regular?Originally posted by duotiga83:nw i gonna have heart attack liao -
woah!Originally posted by kopiosatu:i volunteer~!
you think in iraq like in east timor there teach english hug babys ah?
in iraq you can get blow off anyday...........dangerous lei............ -
refer to kopi topic on this alsoOriginally posted by snk86:why? you in those company that is most likely to get selected meh? and are you a regular?
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that's what war is... i'll go there, experience it, piss in my pants, and see if i live to tell storiesOriginally posted by snk86:woah!
you think in iraq like in east timor there teach english hug babys ah?
in iraq you can get blow off anyday...........dangerous lei............ -
i'm relieve more or lessOriginally posted by gary1910:Dun worry NSF & NS men will not be involved unless they volunteer if they going to send soldier over to Iraq.
For regulars, they might have to by mostly volunteer basis, if there are insufficient number, they might be forced to. The price to be a professional soldier.
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simi topic?Originally posted by duotiga83:refer to kopi topic on this also -
where where? can't find lei............Originally posted by duotiga83:refer to kopi topic on this also -
wad u post yesterdae come true eh......Originally posted by kopiosatu:simi topic?
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=59904 -
reminds mi of MRT the Navy adOriginally posted by kopiosatu:that's what war is... i'll go there, experience it, piss in my pants, and see if i live to tell stories -
hahahahahahaha~ that was a bullsh!t story man~Originally posted by duotiga83:wad u post yesterdae come true eh...... http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=59904
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err............that is a talkingcock.com article......................well, at least those poor chaps going are staying in bagdad...............
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:Originally posted by kopiosatu:i volunteer~!
Meanwhile, Private Hock Kian Peng, a soldier in an infantry brigade, took it in stride, “Scared what? My company Inche oreddy look like Saddam Hussein. Anyway, I don’tch mind going to Iraq. Stay here also quite dangerous. Got Ah Long chase me. I think so get shot also better than having my testicles stapled to my front door, which is what my Ah Long threatened to do.”
Pte Hock or rather Kopi got Ah Long chasing you huh?
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Originally posted by gary1910:
I need the allowance to pay ah long~!
Originally posted by kopiosatu:
[b]Meanwhile, Private Hock Kian Peng, a soldier in an infantry brigade, took it in stride, “Scared what? My company Inche oreddy look like Saddam Hussein. Anyway, I don’tch mind going to Iraq. Stay here also quite dangerous. Got Ah Long chase me. I think so get shot also better than having my testicles stapled to my front door, which is what my Ah Long threatened to do.”
Pte Hock or rather Kopi got Ah Long chasing you huh? [/b] -
Look to the brighter side. At least we can claim we have combat experience like what those in MY always say.
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Their combat experiences are all media-hyped stories. They did face fightings during their stay in Somalia however those fightings that they encounter cant account to how well is their armed force as a whole.Originally posted by eurofighter:Look to the brighter side. At least we can claim we have combat experience like what those in MY always say.
I will say that all their self-cheering and praising on their experiences are all craps. They practically use it everytime during internet debates as selling points. Do u wanna follow that trend? -
Yeah, I agree with your points.Originally posted by foxtrout8:Their combat experiences are all media-hyped stories. They did face fightings during their stay in Somalia however those fightings that they encounter cant account to how well is their armed force as a whole.
I will say that all their self-cheering and praising on their experiences are all craps. They practically use it everytime during internet debates as selling points. Do u wanna follow that trend? -
Well said , a few skimish in Somalia does not constitute them as a effective fighting force in large scale warfare. As the matter of fact, there was a article written by a security analyst in the 90s said that the SAF is the most potent & effective fighting force in a large scale conventional warfare in SEA. Let me explain further by going thru the history of SAF formation & training as compare with the MAF.Originally posted by foxtrout8:Their combat experiences are all media-hyped stories. They did face fightings during their stay in Somalia however those fightings that they encounter cant account to how well is their armed force as a whole.
I will say that all their self-cheering and praising on their experiences are all craps. They practically use it everytime during internet debates as selling points. Do u wanna follow that trend?
In the late 60s & 70s , SAF was forming various arms formation & developing expertise with layered air defence, long range arty & a potent armour units, all the pieces for a large scale conventional warfare.
Whereas, the MAF & all the regional armed forces were concentrating on only on counter-insurgency operation, The MAF at this moment did not develop a effective air defence(No AA missiles & radar), no long range arty & certainly no tanks.
During the 80s, SAF started to train all the formations to fight effectively in a combined arms exercises in the Starlight project where they have yearly Bde to Div scale exercises. These exercises prepared the SAF to operate & fight effectively in large scale conventional warfare in term of logistic support, deployment & develop the synergy effective of large scale combined arms operation.
At this time, the communist threat in MY was waning but the MAF still did not have all the pieces for a effective combined arms operation.The most they have some training in combined arms operation in a very small scale as compare with the SAF.
During the 90s the SAF started to form combined arms Div instead of the previous separate command for all the other arms. This created more synergy and much more effective force. At this time the SAF also developing RMA with better C4ISR so that the SAF is even more a potent force as compare with the rest in the region.They are begining to develop a Rapid deployment forces.
This time , MY had great plan to modernise the MAF so to develop a effective combined arms but due to budget constraint & the currency crisis ,the modernisation programmes did not materialise especially for the army. Therefore the MAF has not develop a combined arms capability in a large scale ,the most a few isolated Bde level exercises.They have plans to develop a rapid deployment forces & a combined armed Bde but the asset are not there yet.
By now ,the SAF has not only fully developed the Rapid deployment force, it is also the most advance in the region in term of RMA. It is most developed armed forces in term of capability and the most well trained in term of large scale combined arms operation in Bde & Div level with two decades of constant exercises.No other forces in the region can boost that.
The MAF has just getting some of the pieces for a effective combined arms operations. For example better air defences, long range arty etc. But even with all the pieces together, they still lack of the expertise in term large scale combined arms operation if they dun have a regular large scale exercises to develop it.
Therefore in conclusion, one to one in large scale conventional warfare, the MAF is way behind the SAF. And with the most develop in RMA as compare to them, it tipped the scale even more.
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Singapore sending troops to Iraq
SINGAPORE (Reuters) --Singapore will send soldiers, airforce planes and navy ships to Iraq, its first military contribution to the U.S.-led reconstruction, the government said after a visit by U.S. President George W. Bush.
The contribution to rebuilding war-battered Iraq by one of Washington's staunchest Southeast Asian allies comes after a short visit by Bush on Wednesday who agreed with Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong to begin talks on tighter defense and security cooperation.
The Defense Ministry would not reveal the size of Singapore's contingent but said C-130 Hercules transport planes, Landing Ship Tanks (LSTs) -- the navy's biggest warships -- will be part of the post-war operation.
A send-off ceremony would be held next Monday, though soldiers will leave on different dates, the ministry said.
It declined to say how long the force would stay, but Singapore's Straits Times newspaper said the C-130s and LSTs indicated "a sizeable contingent with heavy equipment" bound for Iraq.
The United States has sought to draw its allies, including anti-war states, into peacekeeping and civilian reconstruction in Iraq as the death toll among U.S. troops there has mounted.
In July, Singapore -- a wealthy island republic of four million mostly ethnic Chinese -- sent 32 police officers to Baghdad to help train 1,500 Iraqi policemen.
A month later, Defense Minister Teo Chee Hean said Singapore was considering sending "logistics support elements to assist in the reconstruction of Iraq."
Logistics support could include everyone from logistics specialists to store keepers, medical personnel and truck drivers, local media reports say.
The C-130 has a cargo ramp at the rear that allows aircraft to carry bulky cargo, including small trucks. The LST warships carry landing craft and allow trucks and tanks to be loaded. They also have hangar facilities for helicopters.
The U.S.-Singapore talks on a new "framework agreement" cover joint military exercises and training, sharing of defense technology and closer monitoring of weapons production with an emphasis on counter-terrorism, U.S. and Singapore officials said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/10/21/sprj.nitop.singapore.military.reut/index.html