Mummy I want to become an officer when I grow up............
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Aren't officers in the Army supposed to lead the platoon in chiong sua? I heard ranks up to CPT have to go chiong if there's a war.Originally posted by SlowPoke:In the Army, the officers stays behind the line and orders the men to charge and fight the enemy....
In the Navy, the officers joins the men and set sail in ships to fight the enemy....
In the Airforce, the men stay behind in the safety of the airbases and lets the officers strap themselves into jets loaded with tons of fuel and explosives to fly into battle to fight the enemy....
I hope he chooses the "correct" service branch when that kid grows up
But looking at the way Singapore trains our officers... i think even the junior officers will head to the front line and still sit behind while the men chiong.
I know band of brothers is just a show, but it is afterall a true account, and in the interviews the men have praised Winters because he was an officer who would lead and make the right decisions. But if u saw the show, i think SG officers would end up like Lieutenant Dyke. -
i tend to disagree wif tt.Originally posted by SlowPoke:In the Army, the officers stays behind the line and orders the men to charge and fight the enemy....
I hope he chooses the "correct" service branch when that kid grows up 
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the toddler is referring to the ARMY ads.
Originally posted by SlowPoke:In the Army, the officers stays behind the line and orders the men to charge and fight the enemy....
In the Navy, the officers joins the men and set sail in ships to fight the enemy....
In the Airforce, the men stay behind in the safety of the airbases and lets the officers strap themselves into jets loaded with tons of fuel and explosives to fly into battle to fight the enemy....
I hope he chooses the "correct" service branch when that kid grows up -
Were there army ads promoting officers?Originally posted by hoganrock:the toddler is referring to the ARMY ads. -
officers in the army stay behind to coordiate the attacks......
Originally posted by kopiosatu:Aren't officers in the Army supposed to lead the platoon in chiong sua? I heard ranks up to CPT have to go chiong if there's a war.
But looking at the way Singapore trains our officers... i think even the junior officers will head to the front line and still sit behind while the men chiong.
I know band of brothers is just a show, but it is afterall a true account, and in the interviews the men have praised Winters because he was an officer who would lead and make the right decisions. But if u saw the show, i think SG officers would end up like Lieutenant Dyke. -
junior officers (up to coy level) are trained to lead men to fight. staying behind to coordinate attacks are more the job of the bn and above level commanding and staff officers.Originally posted by kopiosatu:Aren't officers in the Army supposed to lead the platoon in chiong sua? I heard ranks up to CPT have to go chiong if there's a war.
But looking at the way Singapore trains our officers... i think even the junior officers will head to the front line and still sit behind while the men chiong.
I know band of brothers is just a show, but it is afterall a true account, and in the interviews the men have praised Winters because he was an officer who would lead and make the right decisions. But if u saw the show, i think SG officers would end up like Lieutenant Dyke.
of cos when the officer leads his men to fight, it doesnt mean he goes straight up and be the first to die. cos losing the leader or commander is the worst thing tt can happen. so he will make use of his assets - his sections or platoons. but o cos he mus be upfront to see and assess the situation to make the best decision on how to use his assets. but charging up using all his brawls and none of his brains will do all his men a great disservice and put their lives in more danger than if he coordinates the effort. -
what if all his platoons/sections had been USED UP/TERMINATED, he will have to charge the enemies ALL by himself?Originally posted by wuming78:junior officers (up to coy level) are trained to lead men to fight. staying behind to coordinate attacks are more the job of the bn and above level commanding and staff officers.
of cos when the officer leads his men to fight, it doesnt mean he goes straight up and be the first to die. cos losing the leader or commander is the worst thing tt can happen. so he will make use of his assets - his sections or platoons. but o cos he mus be upfront to see and assess the situation to make the best decision on how to use his assets. but charging up using all his brawls and none of his brains will do all his men a great disservice and put their lives in more danger than if he coordinates the effort. -
yeah, but there are times the officer has to lead, times where instead of saying 'you, move.' he has to say 'you, follow me'.Originally posted by wuming78:junior officers (up to coy level) are trained to lead men to fight. staying behind to coordinate attacks are more the job of the bn and above level commanding and staff officers.
of cos when the officer leads his men to fight, it doesnt mean he goes straight up and be the first to die. cos losing the leader or commander is the worst thing tt can happen. so he will make use of his assets - his sections or platoons. but o cos he mus be upfront to see and assess the situation to make the best decision on how to use his assets. but charging up using all his brawls and none of his brains will do all his men a great disservice and put their lives in more danger than if he coordinates the effort.
And I'm sure there are only a handful in SG that can do that.
Anyway there are only a handful who can do it in any army anyway, but I don't think we can afford to have too little leaders who don't lead the way. -
yup yup. u can say tt.Originally posted by hoganrock:what if all his platoons/sections had been USED UP/TERMINATED, he will have to charge the enemies ALL by himself?
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then the FAT officers have to use his strength to fight?Originally posted by wuming78:yup yup. u can say tt.
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that means he has made wrong decisions, i'd prefer if he go chiong by himself and die.Originally posted by hoganrock:what if all his platoons/sections had been USED UP/TERMINATED, he will have to charge the enemies ALL by himself?
Actually i hope most officers just die.
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his stomach will absorb the impact of the roundsOriginally posted by hoganrock:then the FAT officers have to use his strength to fight? -
then he would be a sergeant insteadOriginally posted by kopiosatu:that means he has made wrong decisions, i'd prefer if he go chiong by himself and die.
Actually i hope most officers just die. -
oh perhaps i was not clear. the officer has to lead ALL the time if possible. but when there is a need to split his forces, den o cos he cant be everywhere. and sometimes he does haf to send his forces to do flanking, to charge, etc. tts where his subordinate cmdrs come in too. so all commanders haf to be competent.Originally posted by kopiosatu:yeah, but there are times the officer has to lead, times where instead of saying 'you, move.' he has to say 'you, follow me'.
And I'm sure there are only a handful in SG that can do that.
Anyway there are only a handful who can do it in any army anyway, but I don't think we can afford to have too little leaders who don't lead the way.
and i dunno y u say only a handful in SG can do tt, cos i haf personally met alot of very competent commanders - officers or specs. but u r rite - all officers (in fact all commanders) shud lead by example. -
wow.....must be pretty painfulOriginally posted by kopiosatu:his stomach will absorb the impact of the rounds
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sometimes its better to use brains.Originally posted by hoganrock:then the FAT officers have to use his strength to fight?
o cos officers arent suppose to allow themselves to become unfit. fat does not mean not fit anyway. if they r not fit, they better make sure they whip themselves into shape b4 leading his men out. his bosses would o cos wanna ensure he does tt too. -
are we train in desert storming?Originally posted by wuming78:oh perhaps i was not clear. the officer has to lead ALL the time if possible. but when there is a need to split his forces, den o cos he cant be everywhere. and sometimes he does haf to send his forces to do flanking, to charge, etc. tts where his subordinate cmdrs come in too. so all commanders haf to be competent.
and i dunno y u say only a handful in SG can do tt, cos i haf personally met alot of very competent commanders - officers or specs. but u r rite - all officers (in fact all commanders) shud lead by example. -
most probably i've been meeting very lousy leaders.Originally posted by wuming78:oh perhaps i was not clear. the officer has to lead ALL the time if possible. but when there is a need to split his forces, den o cos he cant be everywhere. and sometimes he does haf to send his forces to do flanking, to charge, etc. tts where his subordinate cmdrs come in too. so all commanders haf to be competent.
and i dunno y u say only a handful in SG can do tt, cos i haf personally met alot of very competent commanders - officers or specs. but u r rite - all officers (in fact all commanders) shud lead by example.
most i've met don't give me the impression that they'll lead properly. -
no there isnt. tts y im quite curious how the kid noes abt officers.Originally posted by kopiosatu:Were there army ads promoting officers? -
got desert here meh???Originally posted by hoganrock:are we train in desert storming? -
its unfortunate. but i can assure u not every one is like tt.Originally posted by kopiosatu:most probably i've been meeting very lousy leaders.
most i've met don't give me the impression that they'll lead properly. -
simi si desert storming?Originally posted by hoganrock:are we train in desert storming? -
not so sure either.........
Originally posted by wuming78:no there isnt. tts y im quite curious how the kid noes abt officers. -
fighting in the desert
Originally posted by wuming78:simi si desert storming? -
x2Originally posted by kopiosatu:got desert here meh???