RSN frigates - Close up shots of scale mockup
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Heres some pics I shot of a mockup of the RSN's new frigates, which was displayed on the DCN booth at the International Maritime and Defence Exhibition (IMDEX) 2003, held at the Singapore Expo 11-15 Nov 2003. Pictures are arranged from bow to stern.Thanks to Horizon ModelTech for hosting the pics.
I've also shot a 40 sec video (~10MB) of the mockup from bow to stern. Will post a link if theres enough interest
Discuss away!
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Thanks for sharing the photos - nice shots, and I think I see a 32 cell launcher.
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see 3 x 8 launchers for what i think are the Aster 15 sams, plus the 32 cell and gun, are there any anti-sub stuff?
and great pics! i live pretty close to the expo, but skipped the naval exhibition, went for body works
whens the exhibition until? and admission charges? is it open to public? -
I thought those launchers are chaff launchers?
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can be chaff launcher but also can be short range SAM like cortale...
of course... since ASTER is now the ships primary SAM... it makes little sense to add an older generation shorter range SAM...
so.. i think it should be chaff launchers...
i think the ASTER is too big to be put on those 3*8 lauchers ... they probably will launch from the 32 VL cells...
what i find disagreedable... is the harpoon...
i mean.. there are such thingy called a VL harpoon... why bother putting 8 harpoon amidship when you could use VL harpoon from those 32 cell launcher?
the front part of the ship would most probably be packed to the brim with ASTER and Torps.
the space saved amidship would be useful in making available another 32 VL cells... specifically for VL harpoon or even future ESSM.
oh... by the way... how many ships are there in the world navy... that have 32 VL cells? most i found is either 8 or 16... hardly 32 VL cells. -
how do u take closeups without the pic getting all blury? i wanan learn so i can take closeups of my model cars
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i tot they were armed with exocet mm.40 i remember seeing a press release announcing the sale.Originally posted by tripwire:i mean.. there are such thingy called a VL harpoon... why bother putting 8 harpoon amidship when you could use VL harpoon from those 32 cell launcher? -
I believe they are Chaff launchers too... question is why have 3? The one on top of the hanger, why not put a Phanlax Block IIB instead?Originally posted by eurofighter:I thought those launchers are chaff launchers? -
One interesting thing is that I notice on the heli platform (drawing instead of actual carved out thingy) is that it may have a helicopter recovery system. Secondly, there are amble of space on each side of the hanger. Obviously it was fenced up. I wonder what other systems RSN have in mind?
Perhaps something like the Rafael Typhoon 25mm stabilized gun mount or some other CIWS would be a good idea???
Rafael Typhoon 25mm stabilized gun mount :
Phalanx Block 2B
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Agree that they look like chaff launcher. But they seems to look quite sophisticated. The shape looks similar to the Chaff launchers on the MCV.Originally posted by Joe Black:I believe they are Chaff launchers too... question is why have 3? The one on top of the hanger, why not put a Phanlax Block IIB instead?
however why have two in front and only one behind. typically the chaff will be directed to the rear of the ship. when attacked, you launch chaff, hope that the missle is attracted by the chaff and then move "away" from the chaff. Now you fire the chaff in front and then move midst the chaff cloud. Doesn't make sense! -
It looks very sleek. IMHO, it can be cleaner. Note the spherical radome that is shielded from the horizon point of view. Is it going to jacked up when in use?
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Agree that they look like chaff launcher. But they seems to look quite sophisticated. The shape looks similar to the Chaff launchers on the MCV.Originally posted by Joe Black:I believe they are Chaff launchers too... question is why have 3? The one on top of the hanger, why not put a Phanlax Block IIB instead?
however why have two in front and only one behind. typically the chaff will be directed to the rear of the ship. when attacked, you launch chaff, hope that the missle is attracted by the chaff and then move "away" from the chaff. Now you fire the chaff in front and then move midst the chaff cloud. Doesn't make sense! -
Ah, those chaff launchers are trainable - unlike the Mk 36 SRBOC used on the MGBs, the BAE Shield 3 used on the PVs and the Plessey Shield 9-barreled chaff launchers used onboard the MCVs which are fixed and static; the chaffs could be launched in the direction best suited to seduce the incoming missile(s) away.Originally posted by spencer99:Agree that they look like chaff launcher. But they seems to look quite sophisticated. The shape looks similar to the Chaff launchers on the MCV.
however why have two in front and only one behind. typically the chaff will be directed to the rear of the ship. when attacked, you launch chaff, hope that the missle is attracted by the chaff and then move "away" from the chaff. Now you fire the chaff in front and then move midst the chaff cloud. Doesn't make sense!
The chaff system depicted in the model looks like the Italian SCLAR decoy dispensers system.
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Say, Viper52, can I have some more please????? Nice photos!!!
Anyway, I am rather surprised to seee 32 cells for Aster. That makes us carry as much missiles as the Saudi's Sawari class, which are Air defense version of the Lafeyette at 135m long and almost 50% bigger! -
Yeah. but having two in front and one behind doesn't seems to make sense right??Originally posted by Joe Black:Ah, those chaff launchers are trainable - unlike the Mk 36 SRBOC used on the MGBs, the BAE Shield 3 used on the PVs and the Plessey Shield 9-barreled chaff launchers used onboard the MCVs which are fixed and static; the chaffs could be launched in the direction best suited to seduce the incoming missile(s) away.
The chaff system depicted in the model looks like the Italian SCLAR decoy dispensers system.
There is also a "dome" mounted behind the "chaff" dispenser above the heli hangar. If it is a CIWS type system instead of chaff, the dome could be a targeting radar of some sort.
Do we know why the RSN have three different types of chaff countermeasure system for the MGBs, PVs and MCVs. won't this make supportability difficult? Or is this intentional to confuse the missles of any potential adversary. -
Please post the video clip also. Thanks.Originally posted by Viper52:Heres some pics I shot of a mockup of the RSN's new frigates, which was displayed on the DCN booth at the International Maritime and Defence Exhibition (IMDEX) 2003, held at the Singapore Expo 11-15 Nov 2003. Pictures are arranged from bow to stern.Thanks to Horizon ModelTech for hosting the pics.
I've also shot a 40 sec video (~10MB) of the mockup from bow to stern. Will post a link if theres enough interest
Discuss away!
Actually the Harpoon looks strange. The whole area around the harpoon launchers look so bare. Maybe there are plans to upgrade to a "supersonic" anti-ship missle system in the future -
After a second closer look, it seems like the chaff might not be SCLAR but SHIELD from the same Alenia Marconi Systems company.Originally posted by Joe Black:Ah, those chaff launchers are trainable - unlike the Mk 36 SRBOC used on the MGBs, the BAE Shield 3 used on the PVs and the Plessey Shield 9-barreled chaff launchers used onboard the MCVs which are fixed and static; the chaffs could be launched in the direction best suited to seduce the incoming missile(s) away.
The chaff system depicted in the model looks like the Italian SCLAR decoy dispensers system.
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Seems the pics are missing the most interesting thing to me and I trust others as well - radar?
How do you re-load the 'chaff launchers'? Seems the close-in defense system is too 'soft' for such a big ship?
Notice an electo-optic sensor/tracker behind the launcher above the hanger and one on top of wheelhouse.......
Hard to believe there's no CIWS of any sorts.....maybe the 'chaff launcher' may not be all there is to it?
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It does, actually. i think they are arranged this way to optimise coverage, which means attacks from the side as well. Especially when u consider anti-ship missiles typically hit the side of a ship where the area is larger. So, if a missile approaches from the side, u'd swing them around, and u'd have two launchers to cover each side, since it's unlikely to be attacked by two missiles from both sides at the same time. By the same logic, since the target area from the rear isn't so large, i guess u would need only one to cover. I could be mistaken, of course.Originally posted by spencer99:however why have two in front and only one behind. typically the chaff will be directed to the rear of the ship. when attacked, you launch chaff, hope that the missle is attracted by the chaff and then move "away" from the chaff. Now you fire the chaff in front and then move midst the chaff cloud. Doesn't make sense!
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I noticed that on the stern of the ship below the helo pad, there are some "panels".
could they be access panels for a towed array sonar? Also I noticed that the bow of the frigate is "flushed" without a dome for a front mounted sonar.
Is there any Anti Sub sensor on board at all??? maybe somewhere unneath. Or is it suppose to depend solely on the helicopter with its dipping sonar.
But of course the RSN won't be revealing everything also. right?
If there are no on-board sonar, then we can be certain that this is a more or less dedicated Anti-Air and Anti-Surface platform with its 32-cell VLS AA missle and 8x Harpoon or in future VL A/S supersonic missle -
I would like to retract my statement on the bow being flushed. The photos published here did not show the bow at all.
But somehow I seems to recall that the bow is flushed based on a picture released by Mindef. But I may be wrong or confused with the MCV or the new LST. -
Blast area, to allow proper venting of the booster motor back blast.Originally posted by spencer99:Please post the video clip also. Thanks.
Actually the Harpoon looks strange. The whole area around the harpoon launchers look so bare. Maybe there are plans to upgrade to a "supersonic" anti-ship missle system in the future -
Laser,Originally posted by laser51088:and great pics! i live pretty close to the expo, but skipped the naval exhibition, went for body works
whens the exhibition until? and admission charges? is it open to public?
the exhibition was from the 11-15 Nov. No admission charges, open to trade visitors only. Although screening on trade credentials is not as strict as those for Asian Aerospace.
The exhibition is in 2 areas, the booths are at Expo, while there was also a ship display at Changi Naval Base, with a free shuttle service being provided to and from the 2 sites. This year around 15 ships from various navies took part. -
Something else I saw at the exhibition. The RSS Resilience, a Fearless-class PV, has been equiped with something new! The following pics show what is mounted on the rear of the deck of the PV. Not too sure if the other PVs are so armed though. She is pictured at the ship display at Changi Naval Base, which is part of the IMDEX exhibition
I had initially thought it was a navalised version of the Rafael Overhead Weapon System found on the Army's M113 Ultras, but when I dropped by the ST Booth in the Exhibition Hall, I saw it was actually a ST design, the Naval Remote Weapon Station (NRWS). And the example they had in the hall came with 4 dummy Igla-SAM launchers. Heres a link on the ST Engg website (,pdf file).
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Heng@, get a camera with a marco function. I took those pics with my Nikon Coolpix E3100. If the camera's marco is good, you can take clear pics from distances as low as 5cm!Originally posted by HENG@:how do u take closeups without the pic getting all blury? i wanan learn so i can take closeups of my model cars