RSN frigates - Close up shots of scale mockup
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I am really enjoying this....
Looks like thesefrigate photos really spin off a lot of discussion.
First I would like to retract when I said that only eastern bloc uses ASW rockets. Yeah the Baltic countries also uses them for coastal ASW work. And the RMN also uses them. Hmm, maybe the RSN also wants ASW rockets seems the water around the region is suppose to be shallow. It would be strange if the first platform where we mount ASW rockets (suitable for shallow waters) is our "blue-water" frigates.
And maybe I am too sweeping by saying that ASW rockets are obsolete just because the USN is phasing them out/no longer use them.
I agree that ASW rockets are suppose to be more effective compared to depth charges, although some small ships still have depth charges racks fitted. As stated by another person earlier, the Anti-Sub Torpedo seems to be the most preferred weapon either launched from the ship or from its on-board heli.
The USN ASROC is suppos to be able to carry a Anti-sub torpedo as well, it is suppose to launch and drop right on top of the sub and seek out the Sub. It also can carry nuclear depth charges.
But then it doesn't seem to make sense to have a ASW rocket mounted on top of the hangar pointing at the stern! Unless it is suppose to be a last ditch defence against acoustic a anti-ship torpedo! -
Well you have a point about ASW rockets and "blue-water" since the Deltas are fitted with the Tow Array.......and will probably spend most of it's mission time in deeper waters.Originally posted by spencer99:It would be strange if the first platform where we mount ASW rockets (suitable for shallow waters) is our "blue-water" frigates.
But then it doesn't seem to make sense to have a ASW rocket mounted on top of the hangar pointing at the stern! Unless it is suppose to be a last ditch defence against acoustic a anti-ship torpedo!
Still you need to transit Malacca straits to Andaman Seas and then the approaches to South China Sea is also "green-water"
I think those launchers are multi purpose....and the rockets/missiles are modular design like CRV-7s......fire control for these weapons my guess is very likely to be semi-active homing EO (jam proof laser direction).......haven't seen any provisions for microwave fire directors?
Guys, I think the answer is RBS70! Wow to think Singapore will go back to them after the ban? Hmm.
So maybe role for Gabriels, Decoys, ASW are allocated to these 3 launchers! Wow, first in the world - ST product?
Any comments on the posting regarding performance of the Herakles radar?
Seems the specs sounds too far reaching - for single rotating aperture.......something to do with too many pencil beams/sec to achieve effective volume search plus surface surveillance etc.
Lend credence to the need for fixed multi face 'APAR' type radar???
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RBS70 is used by the RSAF, dunno whether it is suitable for navy light frigates. I think the ban on Singapore has been lifted already.
I still think its RAM. Specially requested by the RSN. -
Note ASROCs you need to have some standoff distance to use it. After all you are talking about rockets. In the narrow Straits of Singapore, you need to be careful about collateral damage.
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It could be the MBDA Tetral system.
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Try this link.
http://www.eads.net/xml/en/sysde/sea/ew/ngds/ngds.xml
The 3 launchers on the frigate could be the NGDS from EADS. It is suppose to be multi-role launcher for decoys against antiship missile and torpedoes. The design and shape of the launcher is quite close to those seen on the mockup..
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Try this link.
http://www.eads.net/xml/en/sysde/sea/ew/ngds/ngds.xml
The 3 launchers on the frigate could be the NGDS from EADS. It is suppose to be multi-role launcher for decoys against antiship missile and torpedoes. The design and shape of the launcher is quite close to those seen on the mockup.. -
Try this link.
http://www.eads.net/xml/en/sysde/sea/ew/ngds/ngds.xml
The 3 launchers on the frigate could be the NGDS from EADS. It is suppose to be multi-role launcher for decoys against antiship missile and torpedoes. The design and shape of the launcher is quite close to those seen on the mockup.. -
Sorry about the repeated posts, my PC seemed to hang...
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No i dun think so.
Can see the diff between the 2.
1) there's a covering outer shell on the RSN system, none on NGDS
2) the pods of the RSN is 4x2 while the NGDS is 4x3
3) the base fixing also look different.
thou i also dunno what system is that, but i'm quite sure its not the NGDS unless they will modify it.
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Double post
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there is one other possibility. It could be a brand new product, possibly, by STE and made in Singapore. A short range system in the class of MBDA Tetral for example, or RAM.
And yes, I do feel it is a missile system now. Most countermeasure systems have multiple tubes and more than often, more than what is seen on the photos. Those that have fewer, are typically long range chaff system where the rockets tend to be longer to achieve the range required. -
my second choice would be countermeasures from Rafael, associated with SEW/RAN-1110 systems, given the mast have some antennas that look like it.