Advice for potential Army regulars.(Please make sticky)
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Some advice for people with intention to signing on with our Army.
Not to be offensive, but i hope that your intention to sign on will not make you into one of those bloodsuckers who sign on with the service/techinical side and proceed to act high and mighty , oppress fellow NSFs becasue they think they have made it, plus rank to boot.Sorry to say, due to my bad experiences with such ppl, just because you have the rank and the money, doesn't mean that you have made it. Respect still has to be earned, you can become a bastard then at the end of the day, ur guys will not cooperate in many ways that will still keep them out of the 'extras' or the 'charge' book.Maybe Im beign sarcastic but I feel that NSFs who do not choose to sign on but rather jump into the rough and tumble of the private sector will eventually be much stronger in cognitive abilty and emotional backbone, because they compete in a less controlled environment.This is not meant to diss off people of high caliber who put their all into their passion for the Army,I salute them.
It is very easy to be sucked in by the money and the impression that you don't have to fight with the other rats in the rat race outside because IT is a cocooned environment to a certain extent.As one of my warrants told me once, those slackers act so big but they do not realise that they cannot even be deployed elsewhere in the Army, which says a lot about their work ability.
Realise that being hardworking yet understanding is a merit worth having while working, so does having the ability to control the urge to make NSFs become your personal assistants.Remember, even if you screw up their 2.5 years, it will hurt you more than it hurts them, for they are precisely gone after 2.5 years, while your career stretches for far more and reputatuon tays, whether you like it or not.
I sincerely hope you have the noble intention to treat your Army career in the same you would have treated your career in the outside world.You will eventually go back there, and it is to your disadvantage if you treat Army regular life as a holiday chalet to prop your feet for 5, 10, 15 or 22 years.
As a friend once told me, he signed on because he thinks we are unlikely to go to war.This dichotomy between defence posture and the thinking of the personnel make this Army a unique place for people to enjoy the perks of combat risk with the atmosphere of peacetime ops.
Juz something to ponder, nothing in this world comes for free and everything you do will return to affect/bless you in one way or another.
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perhaps we can value add to this thread by contributing, if we noe, the information tt will be useful for those who are going to sign on, or those who are pondering if they should sign on.
things like pay, the dif kinds of contract, length of contract term, medical, prospects, scholarships (yes, those), opportunities for advancement and further studies (which i think will interest alot of ppl).
anyone?
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your friend an idiot..no offence...
i wanted to sign on during my BMT couple of years back..but due to my mom aggresive objection
...i ditch the bond last minute..
i still regret it till now..i like Army life..it may sound stupid..but i really hate my working life now...
to me it was never about money..
was thinking about going again...but im too fucking old liao..
there was once my bro friend..a regular in SAF..my bro told him my intention..he say im too old liao..give up the idea..you shld be earning 2K+ now..you are too late...
in my heart i wanted to reply him.."it was never about money"..but i didnt.cos he is my bro fren..
another reason i never try to sign on again..becos i dont wana leave my unit buddies.. -
u born in 1979? where got too old? still can mah.Originally posted by NathanG5:your friend an idiot..no offence...
i wanted to sign on during my BMT couple of years back..but due to my mom aggresive objection ...i ditch the bond last minute..
i still regret it till now..i like Army life..it may sound stupid..but i really hate my working life now...
to me it was never about money..
was thinking about going again...but im too fucking old liao..
there was once my bro friend..a regular in SAF..my bro told him my intention..he say im too old liao..give up the idea..you shld be earning 2K+ now..you are too late...
in my heart i wanted to reply him.."it was never about money"..but i didnt.cos he is my bro fren..
another reason i never try to sign on again..becos i dont wana leave my unit buddies.. -
that is why im still on pending list for Guards next yearOriginally posted by wuming78:u born in 1979? where got too old? still can mah.
got a few thing to settle before signing on.. -
wat r u signing on as? as in spec, officer? and i guess u ord-ed from the gds?Originally posted by NathanG5:that is why im still on pending list for Guards next year
got a few thing to settle before signing on.. -
perhaps one of the books to recommend for would-be warriors is the book "Self-portrait of a Hero" - a compilation of letters by the late Yoni Netanyahu, hero of the 1976 entebbe raid. Bought it at Borders
Gives some timeless insights as to why this particular harvard U student gave up a promising future for career in the uniform. Still believe that this vocation is a calling...but not for me though -
I really agree with him about the part where he says respect is earned. I mean, I have come across (and how many haven't?) officers who think they are so big because they are an officer, and expect people to greet/respect them just because they have the rank. I mean, if they cannot even understand that respect has to be earned, then they have no business being an officer at all. Wah kow, if I see an officer I respect, he tell me dont greet him, I will still greet him. See a cock officer who expect me to greet him, I still greet (lan lan, I no rank
), but in my heart I curse him eat his own shit. These kind of bastards, they should go Macdonalds more to satisfy their ego, can queue up many times then conter girl will say "G'mornin sir", let them hear until they ejaculate........ -
a spec..nope..u forgot where im from liao? so fast ar?Originally posted by wuming78:wat r u signing on as? as in spec, officer? and i guess u ord-ed from the gds?
we chat few weeks ago what.. -
lolzOriginally posted by YourFather:I really agree with him about the part where he says respect is earned. I mean, I have come across (and how many haven't?) officers who think they are so big because they are an officer, and expect people to greet/respect them just because they have the rank. I mean, if they cannot even understand that respect has to be earned, then they have no business being an officer at all. Wah kow, if I see an officer I respect, he tell me dont greet him, I will still greet him. See a cock officer who expect me to greet him, I still greet (lan lan, I no rank ), but in my heart I curse him eat his own shit. These kind of bastards, they should go Macdonalds more to satisfy their ego, can queue up many times then conter girl will say "G'mornin sir", let them hear until they ejaculate........
i agree too..too many screw up officers..
ive got one PC who is as timid as a mouse..but in front of OC n CO..wah..machiam like rambo..
we didnt even bother to greet him...cos ORD soon..no govt..who give a damn..lolz -
oops. i mus be getting old!Originally posted by NathanG5:a spec..nope..u forgot where im from liao? so fast ar?
we chat few weeks ago what..
nm.. i pm-ed u. -
yeap..reply u liao..anymore question can ask me..Originally posted by wuming78:oops. i mus be getting old!
nm.. i pm-ed u. -
hey, can give some advice? i like military alot, but my phycical fitness is really cannot make it.....so if i want to sign on as a weapon tech, do i stand a chance?
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haf u been enlisted? mabbe u wanna wait til u get into bmt b4 u decide.Originally posted by snk86:hey, can give some advice? i like military alot, but my phycical fitness is really cannot make it.....so if i want to sign on as a weapon tech, do i stand a chance?
as for physical, it is a requirement. so if u dread physical activities totally, den better think twice. but if its only u r not so fit now, tts not an issue - u got lots of chances to train up. -
i am like, 2 and a half year away from enlistment...........is that amount of time enuf to train up?
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more then enough...but some might say..combat fitness n physical fitness is different..but if u train hard now..it might help in some way..Originally posted by snk86:i am like, 2 and a half year away from enlistment...........is that amount of time enuf to train up? -
yup its diff.Originally posted by NathanG5:more then enough...but some might say..combat fitness n physical fitness is different..but if u train hard now..it might help in some way..
but its better to haf one of them than none. and having one helps the other too. -
combat firness is what????
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cbt fitness: showed by things like route march, SOC. alot of running while carrying cbt load. fitness to endure operations. tt kind. not simply physical fitness, although tt will form the basis and foundation for cbt fitness.Originally posted by snk86:combat firness is what???? -
then sign on navy lah...Originally posted by snk86:hey, can give some advice? i like military alot, but my phycical fitness is really cannot make it.....so if i want to sign on as a weapon tech, do i stand a chance?
can be OEW (Ordnance) or so called Gunner who operates all the Guns onboard ship, Oto Melara, Bofors and so on..
Can oso be WCS (Weapon Control System) who engages the missiles like Harpoon, Gabriel, Barak and so on...
Join the NAVY...
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err, navy gotta stay on ships for like months at a shot, and all this are big big guns, i really like small arms............Originally posted by Arena:then sign on navy lah...
can be OEW (Ordnance) or so called Gunner who operates all the Guns onboard ship, Oto Melara, Bofors and so on..
Can oso be WCS (Weapon Control System) who engages the missiles like Harpoon, Gabriel, Barak and so on...
Join the NAVY... -
u a soldier? or intend to be one?Originally posted by snk86:err, navy gotta stay on ships for like months at a shot, and all this are big big guns, i really like small arms............ -
go commandos then..they got A-Z small arm..Originally posted by snk86:err, navy gotta stay on ships for like months at a shot, and all this are big big guns, i really like small arms............ -
haha, i had thought, so i said my dream will be working as armourer in hendon............
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erm.. i've always wanted to sign on in the navy.. as a naval officer..
but due to various sources of objections.. been putting it off.. as i've neva had the chance to experience ns life.. i dunnoe the so-called "real" life in the navy.. anyone can share more information abt it? thx in advance.. 