RSS Formidable
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The Red October-class!!!Originally posted by Laplace:SSBNs? What class we operating? Ohio, Le Triomphant or Vanguard? Don't tell me Typhoon hah!
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Gahmen-class frigates
RSS SIA
RSS PSA
RSS STK
RSS SembCorp
And lastly, RSS Temasek Holdings
Local Delicacy class frigates
RSS Chicken Rice
RSS Chicken Satay
RSS Chicken Tandoori
RSS Chicken Kebab
Lastly, RSS Chicken@Geylang Lorong 18!
Transformed class frigates
RSS Geylang
RSS Changi Beach
RSS Desker Road
RSS Fort Road
RSS Bugis Street
Lastly, Singapore class frigates
RSS FINES
RSS GST
RSS CPF
RSS COE
RSS LITIGATION (how else gahmen can get money if dont sue people once in a while) -
hahahaOriginally posted by laurence82:Gahmen-class frigates
RSS SIA
RSS PSA
RSS STK
RSS SembCorp
And lastly, RSS Temasek Holdings
Local Delicacy class frigates
RSS Chicken Rice
RSS Chicken Satay
RSS Chicken Tandoori
RSS Chicken Kebab
Lastly, RSS Chicken@Geylang Lorong 18!
Transformed class frigates
RSS Geylang
RSS Changi Beach
RSS Desker Road
RSS Fort Road
RSS Bugis Street
Lastly, Singapore class frigates
RSS FINES
RSS GST
RSS CPF
RSS COE
RSS LITIGATION (how else gahmen can get money if dont sue people once in a while) 
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RSS Little Red Dot
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Hey ho,
It seems to me that no one here won the name our frigates competition?
Any guesses on the pennant numbers?
Perhaps we could use the top six numbers from this week's Toto
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Anyone keen on buying the numbers 0768, 6807, 6868 for this week's 4D?
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Any read the full page ad by DCN in the Straits Times today? Swcheeet!!!
And chinesejunk, great article! At least now we know the main radar is the Thales Herakles and we've got the Aster 15.
Woohoo! Singapura rules the waves? Let's hope they don't collide with oil tankers being stealthy and all! -
And the Missles are Harpoon not Exocet like what some speculate.
Also there is no hull mounted sonar but the frigates used a towed sonar array. Unless it the hull mounted sonar is so classified that they didn't say.
They still didn't say what those cute multiple tube launchers are for! -
I think we got Harpoons for simplicity of logistics, after all our corvettes use them too. BTW, can the RSAF/RSN Fokker 50s fire air-launched Harpoons?
The ASW sensors could be classified or perhaps not installed yet. Maybe DSTA is looking into newer systems than available ones. -
I see that the frigates will still be armed with the whitehead torpedoes. Thought a new type will be introduced.
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What I would like to know is "Is Herakles a rotator?".
Doesn't seem so from the pic in the ad.
Is there a Singapore Flag on the model? -
Yes it is. It is a passive phased array system. If you want more detailed info, its on the net..
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Hi folks,
The number 68 on the hull, just under the A gun, is the actual pennant number. I got the artist to add it last night (Tues).
I think ALOFTs is useful as it's a towed system and can be deployed under the layer, unlike bow or hull-mounted systems. I was aboard USS Russell for several days years ago and got to learn about sonar, Nixie, Asroc etc. They said the sonar's capability is degraded when they make high speed runs - hence the evolution of the sprint and drift sub hunting tactic.
I believe mounting the sonar gear in the fantail means the loss of the stern hatch for launching RHIBs. French La Fayettes can deploy spec ops boats from the large stern hatch. Useful huh? This is one of the lesser known capabilities of the La Fayettes.
But as with many things in life, there's a tradeoff in the kind of kit you can put onboard. Mounting one system instead of another often means certain compromises.
Those of you who know what the Navy did to Brave should ask yourself why a 55-m APV needs two types of sonars. I think the Navy has learnt something from this trial and applied the lessons accordingly.
Courageous has been the unfortunate lightning rod for all things scathing and negative about the Navy. If you realise what they did to Coalition Warship 207, you'll appreciate that the Navy has long gotten out of this rut.... which is a good thing. The trick now is for them to sustain the momentum.
Cheers,
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IMHO I think our new frigates look a bit like the Saar Missle boat from Israel Navy..
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1st off, I like the National Flag in the latest picture!Originally posted by ChineseJunk:Hi folks,
The number 68 on the hull, just under the A gun, is the actual pennant number. I got the artist to add it last night (Tues).
I think ALOFTs is useful as it's a towed system and can be deployed under the layer, unlike bow or hull-mounted systems. I was aboard USS Russell for several days years ago and got to learn about sonar, Nixie, Asroc etc. They said the sonar's capability is degraded when they make high speed runs - hence the evolution of the sprint and drift sub hunting tactic.
I believe mounting the sonar gear in the fantail means the loss of the stern hatch for launching RHIBs. French La Fayettes can deploy spec ops boats from the large stern hatch. Useful huh? This is one of the lesser known capabilities of the La Fayettes.
But as with many things in life, there's a tradeoff in the kind of kit you can put onboard. Mounting one system instead of another often means certain compromises.
Those of you who know what the Navy did to Brave should ask yourself why a 55-m APV needs two types of sonars. I think the Navy has learnt something from this trial and applied the lessons accordingly.
Courageous has been the unfortunate lightning rod for all things scathing and negative about the Navy. If you realise what they did to Coalition Warship 207, you'll appreciate that the Navy has long gotten out of this rut.... which is a good thing. The trick now is for them to sustain the momentum.
Cheers,
db
As I understand it, the problem with MCV was the 'fish' (the serviceability of it aside). When trawling, MCV is handicap as you said and needs to haul the fish up before it can dash. So they need to go in pairs.
Then you have the APVs with hull borne sonar for shallower waters that will act as 'chasers' with the MCV doing nothing but trawling.
This must have worked in Andaman, I believe and they score for the first time not too long ago. They now go in 3s -> 2 APVs and 1MCV versus 2MCVs before.
Before with the MCVs they almost never catch that INS sub.
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Can it be SHEARED off?
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[quote]Originally posted by Fairyland:
1st off, I like the National Flag in the latest picture!
You seem to have a thing for flags. Did the Chinook carrying the State Flag on National Day set you off?
Yes, VDS can be sheared off if it hits something solid. I recall reading at least one case of a Los Angeles boat pulling a fishing trawler underwater after the sub got entangled in the trawler's net.
Also,
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=15987 -
Can someone (ChineseJunk - hint hint, post the pics here for the unlucky few who didn't see it). Thanks
1st off, I like the National Flag in the latest picture!
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Well, as the ASW tactics, didn't NATO (read USN) rely heavily on the use of Helo to chase subs? Once a sub is being detected, a helo will fly close to the sub position, drops sonabouyes or dipping sonars to locate the enemy sub, and drop the torpedoes accordingly.
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Originally posted by ChineseJunk:
I was in the stadium when she (Chinook with the flag) flew by.......tears came to my eyes. Big thing for me, I'm afraid.
[quote]Originally posted by Fairyland:
[b]1st off, I like the National Flag in the latest picture!
You seem to have a thing for flags. Did the Chinook carrying the State Flag on National Day set you off?
Yes, VDS can be sheared off if it hits something solid. I recall reading at least one case of a Los Angeles boat pulling a fishing trawler underwater after the sub got entangled in the trawler's net.
Also,
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=15987
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We have come a long long way haven't we? Yes!
I'm not the oldest chap around but I remember the Alouettes, Hawker Hunters and Skyhawks. Used to attend those displays in Changi and for a teenager those days they rock!
Navy was nothing back in those days. Today you are talking helicopter carriers!
IMO they shouldn't have scrapped the Type A&B patrol crafts! Neither should they scrap the RSS Courageous too. Historic events....
I say the RSS Courageous should be made into a monument placed in the Padang with a huge National Flag and each year a parade should be held in memory of this event.
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Flags and banners day.
The number 68 is huge siah. From miles away no need bino also can see.
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Wide shot of the RSN Formidable -
Is it common to have the number so far back? I thought they usually carry the number right in front somewhere near the anchor usually would be.Originally posted by ChineseJunk:Flags and banners day.
The number 68 is huge siah. From miles away no need bino also can see.
Anyway, got the feeling one day we might read something about "Coalition ship 68" hee hee -
Is it as long as the LST, if not bigger?
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From what I gather, the Delta will be armed with :
1. 32 VLS Aster 15
2. 8 Harpoon Block 2 RGM-84L
3. 1 76mm Oto Breda Super Rapido gun in Stealth turret ( It should have been at least a 100mm gun minimum for the Endurance class LSTs and for the Deltas )
4. 2 triple ASW torpedoes tubes.
5. CIWS ??? - Wonder what's the CIWS for the Delta Frigate will be.
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That's a graceful looking ship! The lines are nicer than the Endurance class.........I likeOriginally posted by IAF:
Wide shot of the RSN Formidable
Are the Slyver cells able to accomodate Aster 30s in the future? Or is the hull too small to accomodate the extra length?
I hazard a guess here that those decoy launchers are also a variant of Typhoon I think I'm close!
Btw here's the link in defense aerospace on the weapons systems:
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele.pl?session=dae.2867716.1073608521&modele=jdc_34
I'm very happy to know they are not using the French Tavitac CICs! All the work going to the SOCCs didn't go to waste. I expect they will get into the TYPHOONS SSBNs that RSN will get to replace the Charlies based in Christmas Islands!