Racism in SAF
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Today my officer scold my malay storeman... This is how he scold him---> 'Why u so stupid?? Your god never teach u how to think ah?? Your god is a pig is it??' By saying this to a muslim, i really feel sorry for him n disgrace to the officer... Its ridiculous n disgrace... I really like to speak up for my storeman, but wat can a 3rd sgt do, i'm outrage n angry but wat can i do... In SAF, ranks rulez....
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there r channels to seek redress. is this the first time he made such racist remarks? if i were u i would do something abt it. its absolutely wrong for him to haf made such insensitive and senseless comments.Originally posted by Ogbunwezeh:Today my officer scold my malay storeman... This is how he scold him---> 'Why u so stupid?? Your god never teach u how to think ah?? Your god is a pig is it??' By saying this to a muslim, i really feel sorry for him n disgrace to the officer... Its ridiculous n disgrace... I really like to speak up for my storeman, but wat can a 3rd sgt do, i'm outrage n angry but wat can i do... In SAF, ranks rulez....
recommend to speak to ur OC or CSM or better still RSM. pls dun think u r a small fry and tt theres nothing u can do. we shud not condone such behaviour. -
After tat incident, i talk to my malay storeman, this is wat he reply---> "Just forget it, if i complain, i will kena arrow by him( tat f**king officer). Serve for another 10 mths den i'll gonna f**ck off from here" This is wat i notice in SAF tat many soldiers juz endure with the impropriate treatment when they r being aim or bullied by higher rank personnel in SAF.
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mabbe he doesnt want to but im sure u r in a better position to do so for him since u r neutral. yes, aloto ppl jus keep quiet and allow things to perpetuate. shudnt be tt way!Originally posted by Ogbunwezeh:After tat incident, i talk to my malay storeman, this is wat he reply---> "Just forget it, if i complain, i will kena arrow by him( tat f**king officer). Serve for another 10 mths den i'll gonna f**ck off from here" This is wat i notice in SAF tat many soldiers juz endure with the impropriate treatment when they r being aim or bullied by higher rank personnel in SAF. -
Thanks for the advice... Gonna think abt it.
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The officer is pretty higher rank... 'im working in the HQ. He is an AO, a DXO. A retired 2 'crabs'. Above him is CO, boss of my unit.
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?! realli? and he come and scold a storeman like tt? non-uniformed?Originally posted by Ogbunwezeh:The officer is pretty higher rank... 'im working in the HQ. He is an AO, a DXO. A retired 2 'crabs'. Above him is CO, boss of my unit.
to think someone of his stature would do such a thing... wat a disgrace.
u can stil speak to ur rsm, or s1 den. if not i think one of the best channels is the saf hotline. -
was in civil service, d best n fastest way to get things done is thru media provided wat he said is geniune wif strong point to proveOriginally posted by wuming78:?! realli? and he come and scold a storeman like tt? non-uniformed?
to think someone of his stature would do such a thing... wat a disgrace.
u can stil speak to ur rsm, or s1 den. if not i think one of the best channels is the saf hotline.
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true oso.. write to forum.. but there is no guarantee they wil print ur letter.Originally posted by greyskymorning:was a civil service, d best n fastest way to get things done is thru media provided wat he said is geniune wif strong point to prove -
the malay is smart...
you are the real pig brain chinese...
just take an example... in camp.. alot of FXXking language goes around in hokkien.. like
F your mother.. (KNN)
F your father.. (KNLB)
F your mother stinking CB. (KNNCCB)
do you mean they really intend on F your parents?
last but not least.. F.U.
do you think the officer wanna rape you?
while i do agreed that the officer might have overdone it... but understand that you will find it hard to prove that he said such words to the storeman..
if you bring this matter up to your CO.. and he deny it... what are you gonna do? bring the storeman in to testify?
what do you think your CO will do? believe in a 2 crab or 2 puny NSF?
furthermore... without prove.. your case would be closed after "investigation"
THEN COMES THE BIG BIG ROCK!!
the 2 crab can now turn the tables around at you and the storeman for maligning him (a senior officer of SAF) under a ton of charges... enough for a full court martial... your CO and IO would testify that you indeed did "make up" these charges against the senior officer!!
then your storeman and you can enjoy looking forward to your extension of NS in DB for god knows how long... a few months perhaps? 
enjoy .... you stupid chinese pig... hahaha.... -
Haha... imaginative thinking with the possibility of happening... wow u really think v far... this is also wat i'm worry abt when u try to challenge a higher rank personnel....
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i didnt have to think that far.... I have SEEN IT happened before!!
but its between a malay 3rd SG and a Malay captain!!... no racism here... but full charges were filed.. and the 3rd SG was eventually charged.. found guilty.. handcuffed.. send for FFI and went to DB for 3 months!!
there were a few witness would told me.. that the 3rd SG was in the right... but non of them dared to speak up... because the malay captain is one big MFCCB. -
so from wat u say, its better to play safe n ignore it than trying to challenge tat officer??
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so from wat u say, its better to play safe n ignore it than trying to challenge tat officer??
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wanna challenge??
you will need to be smart...
and the higher the rank of your opponent..
the more IQ, Patience and wits you will need..
but... do you wanna commit yourself?? remember.. the price of failure is DB.
for me.. unless its personnal... i would simply express my sympathy to the malay storeman... tell him not to think too much about it...
you could even suggest your malay friend go indonesia employ a dugong and put a curse on the 2 crab!... it would make him laugh... and he will forget about it...
cheer up... the road of life is never smooth...but as long as the wind blows... be glad and dont think too much. -
i canot dispute wat tripwire said.Originally posted by Ogbunwezeh:so from wat u say, its better to play safe n ignore it than trying to challenge tat officer??
o cos the choice is urs. i would standby my recommendation. -
setup a trap for that guy...tape the conversation...
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oh.. one more thing... people dont go around raving at anyone for no reason... only those got mental problem does that..
your malay storeman might really have done something way wrong to invite such a harsh reprimand.
i have seen storeman would were sent to DB for failing to keep their stock in order... if your friend really did something wrong.. a reprimand is far far far better then going to DB.
if you bring this matter up to your CO... your storeman might even deny that he was scolded by the 2 crab...because he dont want to make the matter big big..
then its your statement vs the statements of the storeman and the 2 crab.. your CO would string you up and send you to DB express lane. -
tape record?
dont be a fool... at most the 2 crab would simply apologies.. and mitigate his actions based on circumstantial evidence... like the storeman really screwed up the store...
the CO would then simply resolved the case and noted that the 2 crab has apologies for his inappropriate action.
but then... you my good 3rd SG would find it hard to sleep at night while the 2 crab starts to breath down your neck.... i have seen people suffer a breakdown out of fear due to their own imagination!!.
oh... if things goes by the book... everything would go by the book...
the CO would no doubt also send an IO to investigate the store... then my friend... your malay storeman would run to indonesia and get a dugong to put a curse on YOU!! -
i got the perfect solution
call the SAF hotline
that one... no need to go through proper channel -
there are system in place in SAF hotline to prevent abuse...
you think happy happy call hotline can get revenge... you better think again. -
the hotline is to seek redress not revenge. o cos there mus be a genuine case first.Originally posted by tripwire:there are system in place in SAF hotline to prevent abuse...
you think happy happy call hotline can get revenge... you better think again. -
if you cant even prove your "genuine case" to your CO... you will have even lesser chance trying to prove to someone outside the camp...
in the end... it only make the snowball bigger and would simply come crushing down harder on you! or your storeman... -
the SGT could've spoken up for him...Originally posted by wuming78:the hotline is to seek redress not revenge. o cos there mus be a genuine case first.
i dunno about you people... but no one messes with me, so even if some higher rank guy steps on my tail i'll shoot him down... maybe that's why i don't get much crap from those higher rank than me -
tts wat i recommended too - cos hes neutral.Originally posted by kopiosatu:the SGT could've spoken up for him...
i dunno about you people... but no one messes with me, so even if some higher rank guy steps on my tail i'll shoot him down... maybe that's why i don't get much crap from those higher rank than me
and watever the storeman has done, he does not deserve racist remarks. no one does, esp in singapore.
but o cos - i dunno if he heard it from the storeman or he witnessed it himself. if its the latter o cos theres a case. if its the former he mus den estab the case by confirming it.