Four SAF servicemen injured in machine gun explosion
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SINGAPORE : Four SAF servicemen were injured in a training incident at the Armour Training Centre on Tuesday.
Mindef says the three full-time NSmen and a regular were trying to rectify a jammed 0.5 inch calibre machine gun when an explosion occurred in its chamber.
They were sent to the National University Hospital for treatment, where one of them was warded for shrapnel injuries to his face and eyes.
Mindef says he is in a stable condition.
The others were given outpatient treatment for minor injuries.
The SAF is conducting an investigation to determine the cause of the incident. - CNA -
It happened while they were trying to dismantle the barrel..or so I heard.Anyway, the report stated a CIS 50MG while the television report showed a M242 Bushmaster.Strange.
It's sad to hear that accidents have to happen needlessly.The detailed cause of it I cannot tell, but i can say it could have been entirely avoidable if basic safety checks were observed. -
Man, messy - hope that guy pulls through.
Did the round cook off in the chamber or was it an accidental discharge while they were taking the barrel off? -
4 shrapnel injuries, sounds like a chamber explosion rather than an accidental discharge
Ch I showed an M2 Browning, but I thought those had been phased out in favour of the CIS 50? In the armour units at least. -
My ex-unit! -
the news said the round was jammed in the chamber.. and they were trying to fix it.. and it blew up
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The barrel neck was facing up when they were trying to extricate the round..Its a sad and unfortunate accident.Our prayers are with them and I hope they recover fast.
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Since its from an armour unit then my guess is that they are conducting AI live-firing from the turret of a 40/50 Ultra. Have you seen how big one of those 0.5 rds before? Quite big i must say.BTW are these rds classified into HE? Lets hope that they will be ok.
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0.5 rounds comes in HE I believe.
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iaia gone wrong... hope they r ok...
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Ok, this is what I know.
Apparently, the gun was brought back to armskote without proper clearing. No one was aware that a round was still present in the chamber. Worse thing is DO never check clear all arms when T/O. So you can guess how many ppl down the line are gonna get it.
While attempting to remedy the gun, still unaware the round was present. The bolt was pulled and the firing pin triggered the round causing it to go off. Yes, in the armskote. Imagine how loud thats gonna be. Good thing the open chamber was facing the ground. So now got ppl partially deaf and blind. Very unlucky. -
human error again... sigh..Originally posted by ditzy:Ok, this is what I know.
Apparently, the gun was brought back to armskote without proper clearing. No one was aware that a round was still present in the chamber. Worse thing is DO never check clear all arms when T/O. So you can guess how many ppl down the line are gonna get it.
While attempting to remedy the gun, still unaware the round was present. The bolt was pulled and the firing pin triggered the round causing it to go off. Yes, in the armskote. Imagine how loud thats gonna be. Good thing the open chamber was facing the ground. So now got ppl partially deaf and blind. Very unlucky.
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If this is true - then its a real stupid mistake. If it was a live AP round, who knows where the round would end up.Originally posted by ditzy:Ok, this is what I know.
Apparently, the gun was brought back to armskote without proper clearing. No one was aware that a round was still present in the chamber. Worse thing is DO never check clear all arms when T/O. So you can guess how many ppl down the line are gonna get it.
While attempting to remedy the gun, still unaware the round was present. The bolt was pulled and the firing pin triggered the round causing it to go off. Yes, in the armskote. Imagine how loud thats gonna be. Good thing the open chamber was facing the ground. So now got ppl partially deaf and blind. Very unlucky. -
Are those hurt, in-camp reservist or active nsf of ATC?
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AP round in machine gun?? zhun boh..
if AP round....ho sei lo....
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Heres more of what I know part 2:
Nope those guys aren't reservists. The unit that got involved is a brigade(not allowed to say anymore).
Not a reservist unit.
Its not an AP round either. AP rounds for HMG rarely fired on singapore soil. -
Are you sure that the weapon's chamber was pointed to the ground?I dont think the round flew out because the receiver is somehow warped.No more can I say.
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was at my base doing my ICT..they went to our Med centre 1st..
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Well the info i got from an armourer who was there to kaypoh. So if he tell me lies, i also telling lies. Can't say anymore.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Are you sure that the weapon's chamber was pointed to the ground?I dont think the round flew out because the receiver is somehow warped.No more can I say. -
it happened in the armskote??? i thought it was during exercise or live firing time... like that seems like a lot a lot of people will get into deep deep shit... never check clear... tsk tsk... suay suay suay... i hope those injured can recover quickly...
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Its reported in the straits times dated 26th feb. Weapon never check clear and brought back. Thats not the worst. DO do T/O also never check clear.Originally posted by spyder: it happened in the armskote??? i thought it was during exercise or live firing time... like that seems like a lot a lot of people will get into deep deep shit... never check clear... tsk tsk... suay suay suay... i hope those injured can recover quickly... -
sad sad
the 3 are good sergeants.. -
Chain of blame:
Ammo IC
Conducting Officer
Safety Officer
Armskotemen
D/O
And.... the poor NSF who was operating the weapon when it got jammed.