Russian weapons
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Actually i am very intrested in Russian weapons. Is there anyone out there who shares the same intrest? Maybe we can discuss more about both new and old Russian military hardware here. Pics are welcomed!
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Personally, i think that Russian tanks are beautiful. Although the interior sucks like hell, on the outside they still look good. In fact, monstrous tanks like the American M1 looks boxy and big. I would prefer the round and flat turret of Russian tanks. T80/variants and T90 are my favourite. Earlier models lke the T62, 54/5 may not look as nice. Anyway, the abandoned American M60A2 looks nice too. Unique i would say.
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External apperance aside, I'll much rather be in a tank that provides more protection then one that's nice looking. The flat, angular, welded turret of the Abrams and other western tanks is there for the reason that such a design is needed to maximse the protection of composite armour.Originally posted by Airborne Guards:Personally, i think that Russian tanks are beautiful. Although the interior sucks like hell, on the outside they still look good. In fact, monstrous tanks like the American M1 looks boxy and big. I would prefer the round and flat turret of Russian tanks. T80/variants and T90 are my favourite. Earlier models lke the T62, 54/5 may not look as nice. Anyway, the abandoned American M60A2 looks nice too. Unique i would say. -
Talking about Russian MBTs. There is this new MBT by the Russians called the Black Eagle or something(not sure of the name) I heard that its really good,maybe this tank will make the Russian MBT technology comparable to that of the Americans. Anyone got any info on this? There is also this Russian forward swept fighter. I think its designation is Mig 1.45 or something. I think it looks cool.
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Not really, but it can be said to the be first Russian tank to be finally concerned with crew protection.Originally posted by tankee1981:Talking about Russian MBTs. There is this new MBT by the Russians called the Black Eagle or something(not sure of the name) I heard that its really good,maybe this tank will make the Russian MBT technology comparable to that of the Americans. Anyone got any info on this? There is also this Russian forward swept fighter. I think its designation is Mig 1.45 or something. I think it looks cool.
Sadly most Russian projects don't go far beyond the paper or prototype, they don't lack talent, but they lack the money. -
Small arms, ground, air, naval? Ungodly amounts of troops attacking? Nuclear?Originally posted by tankee1981:Actually i am very intrested in Russian weapons. Is there anyone out there who shares the same intrest? Maybe we can discuss more about both new and old Russian military hardware here. Pics are welcomed!
What is your main area of interest?
been reading about these guys for years.
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Although the Russian weapon's quality can be a problem, but they have quite an intresting range and variety. For example their naval helicopters uses a very special way to fly-2 rotors in opposite directions and no tail rotor. Their Spenaz uses a special combat knife that can fire off 1 round as a gun. Theres many more examples to go.
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So your interested in all kinds of russian stuff?
Any branch really interest you?
for me it's ground and naval. -
I am more into their airforce and army. For navy only the submarines. Surface ships not so much.
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infantry weapons and aircraft
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i love the AK, the makarov, Ppsh-41, the Su-27, Mig-29, Yak-141, T72 and T80 tanks.
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The Russian oldies but goodies! MiG-21, AK-47, Tu-22M Backfire and the T-55 tank! Any tank after the T-64 suck!
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how about those big bears?Originally posted by Viper52:The Russian oldies but goodies! MiG-21, AK-47, Tu-22M Backfire and the T-55 tank! Any tank after the T-64 suck!
n i dun mean the Bear.
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Haha Heng, the Badgers more my cup of tea!Originally posted by HENG@:how about those big bears?
n i dun mean the Bear. -
ah.Originally posted by Viper52:Haha Heng, the Badgers more my cup of tea!
hey i lurve em all! -
Love the Tu-160. Isn't it such a beauty? Though Russian stuff, especially aircraft have those wierld and crude looks.
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is that the badger or backfire?Originally posted by eurofighter:Love the Tu-160. Isn't it such a beauty? Though Russian stuff, especially aircraft have those wierld and crude looks.
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Nope. Its the blackjet. The B-1B lookalike. Jus that it's bigger.
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I actually went inside a Russian sub before...part of some display thing where the owner bought it over from Soviet Union after the Cold War and turned it into an attraction. I cannot remember the designation, but it was one heck of a crammed...it was a diesel sub for sure.Originally posted by Viper52:The Russian oldies but goodies! MiG-21, AK-47, Tu-22M Backfire and the T-55 tank! Any tank after the T-64 suck!
The other Soviet-era vehicle I had a look at was the T-62...pretty simple instruments as compared to Western tanks.And the worst part is that NBC-proof to the Soviets means having a layer of lead in the interior of the tank...alamak....even if no Hot War, the tank crew will die of lead-poisoning sooner or later man....
The AK-47, or rather, the Type 56 Chicom has a bit of a kick...typical 7.62. Accuracy isn't so good beyond 200 metres, but the rifle is damn reliable, and simple to strip and maintain. Typically suitable for arming Third World conscripts/guerilla/terrorists. -
Are you referring to the Whiskey class submarine in Florida? It's huge on the outstide....with twin screws and all.....Originally posted by Tango1:I actually went inside a Russian sub before...part of some display thing where the owner bought it over from Soviet Union after the Cold War and turned it into an attraction. I cannot remember the designation, but it was one heck of a crammed...it was a diesel sub for sure.
But it's really crammed inside and the toilet was something else..... -
oh ah ok...Originally posted by eurofighter:Nope. Its the blackjet. The B-1B lookalike. Jus that it's bigger. -
Lol not to sure but last i hear somewere left in Ukraine when the USSR fell and well......the Russians wanted them back ahha.Originally posted by eurofighter:Love the Tu-160. Isn't it such a beauty? Though Russian stuff, especially aircraft have those wierld and crude looks.
Same with the Black Sea Fleet.....something like 70% went to Ukraine and Russia made a hell of alot of noise -
Russian weapons in the local context are sadly under-rated. The key disaffection to Mindef probably is the inevitable logistical nightmare if ever they had to make a sudden new introduction of key weapons system from Russia/ex-Soviet into our arsenal.Originally posted by tankee1981:Actually i am very intrested in Russian weapons. Is there anyone out there who shares the same intrest? Maybe we can discuss more about both new and old Russian military hardware here. Pics are welcomed!
Despite that, the Russians do have very different design philosophy and operational doctrine from the West, and the result is actually noteworthy and commendable that their weapons work according to their specifications.
I am always amazed by their land weapons and missile technology which are unique - e.g. BMP3/BMD3 and SHTORA tank-mounted missile countermeasures, and of course their full spectrum of surface-to-air missiles...