AFM Special: F-16 in Combat
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Just read in "F-16 in Combat" chapter (pg 70) that during the Indo-Pakistan conflict of May 1999, the paf lost 3 f-16s to an indian af Mirage 2000 and Mig-29. Prior to that, the paf also lost a single f-16 to a soviet mig-23 in sept 12 1988.
i think this india-singapore military cooperation thingy is a pretty good idea!
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how much a copy? where to buy?
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Originally posted by sgboy2004:how much a copy? where to buy?
The same price as AFM $15.90. i bought the last one at Holland V today. Last Sat, i checked and found out that Borders and Times at Centrepoint didn't carry it either.
So your best bet might be Kino at Taka or Times at Plaza Sing
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thanksOriginally posted by IAF:
might go get a copy to read.
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But most sources said that only a PAF F-16 was lost and it was due to a FF by it's wingman with a sidewinder.
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$15.90 for a monthly magazine?
i paid S$168 for 51 issues of Aviation week and they give out 8 free issues a year if u send back 2 survey forms. so 59 issues for 168, u guys do the math. u can never get exclusive news from afm. and they deliver it to your mail box. -
To be fair cavsg, I think both magazines target different sectors, AW tends to go after the people in the industry as its readership while AFM is after the aviation enthusiasts. Hence AW's focus on getting the scoops while AFM focus on the less technical aspect and more on photos.
As for newsstand price, I might be speculating, but I would assume that the number of pics in each publication might be a factor. Speaking from the experience of doing commissioned work for such magazines, the payscale per printed pic vs text is in a different class. -
perhaps it's also the exchange rate for the euro..Originally posted by Viper52:As for newsstand price, I might be speculating, but I would assume that the number of pics in each publication might be a factor. Speaking from the experience of doing commissioned work for such magazines, the payscale per printed pic vs text is in a different class. -
Anyone know any other alternate places to get this magazine? I've tried virtually every bookshop in town and they seem to be unavailable. Dont know if they run out of stock...or they havent even arrived yet...Any peepz living in the East or West that can recommend me some places there to get it ?
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Think it's the quality of the pilots that make the Air Force strong lor.Originally posted by IAF:Just read in "F-16 in Combat" chapter (pg 70) that during the Indo-Pakistan conflict of May 1999, the paf lost 3 f-16s to an indian af Mirage 2000 and Mig-29. Prior to that, the paf also lost a single f-16 to a soviet mig-23 in sept 12 1988.
i think this india-singapore military cooperation thingy is a pretty good idea!
Btw, this AFM special has lots of great pics! -
The March AFM with the story of RSAF has just arrived and is now up for grabs at the Holland V magazine stands!Originally posted by Razor87th:Anyone know any other alternate places to get this magazine? I've tried virtually every bookshop in town and they seem to be unavailable. Dont know if they run out of stock...or they havent even arrived yet...Any peepz living in the East or West that can recommend me some places there to get it ?
I'd be most obliged.
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I got the AFM special from a mamak shop in Queensway IKEA building a couple of weeks ago. Saw a few issues there, so did my friend who went the next day. Not too sure about now though
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The march issue is out?
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The bookstore which reserves the magazine for me said that the March issue will be slightly delayed. Man! Can't wait to read the article on RSAF!
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Then you probably wanna switch your allegiance to Mama Joe's of Holland V (the one facing kfc)Originally posted by eurofighter:The bookstore which reserves the magazine for me said that the March issue will be slightly delayed. Man! Can't wait to read the article on RSAF! -
Hi, I'm thinking of getting one copy of AFM to give away next week for a contest on my website. I'm wondering if the magazine is sold out, you guys have any suggestions for another similar replacement. Please don't recommend me Jane's stuff. Can't afford them
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Hi, I just bought 3 copies of AFM at Kinokuniya Bookstore at Ngee Ann City. There were 5 copies left at the shelf when I left. For those who can't get it, maybe you can try the contest starting monday at 10am.
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Goddamn...
i went on a searching spree around the whole island today for that elusive F-16 special magazine....but to no avail
I went to Kino, and its not there...only this month's issue of AFM (which i already have)...then i went to Queensway ikea....also no-go...then i went to Holland V..and searched the 2 mama shops there....and it was no-joy !!
Arghhh its really frustrating when u cant find something u want very badly!
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I just scan thru a copy and noted some mistakes about the rsaf fennecs, who can type out the original text so that I can correct it.
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cavsg, I've read the piece, and I'm guessing its to do with the 123-124 Sqn relationship and heritage? Or the number of AS350Bs?Originally posted by cavsg:I just scan thru a copy and noted some mistakes about the rsaf fennecs, who can type out the original text so that I can correct it. -
the 123 part and some of the fennecs part, totally bullshitOriginally posted by Viper52:cavsg, I've read the piece, and I'm guessing its to do with the 123-124 Sqn relationship and heritage? Or the number of AS350Bs?
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ok seems that i need to start the ball rolling
I cannot really remember how far the history of 123 but when the 350 were delivered, it was operated by 123 not 124(afm said), back in 92 period there was a competition and 550, md defender with notar and bell kiowa was in competition to replace 350, to side track during a testing of md a rsaf pilot actually was struck in the head by the main rotor blades as the a/c sits very low on ground, back again, the 550 was selected and 6 pilots were send to france for 1st batch. koh jun teh(kohj, rsaf 1st heli test pilot, featured in a bbc documentary in 86 when they were doing a film on empire test pilot school where he was studying, his test heli was the chinnok, now heli sim center co), derrick koh his brother (later 123 co), augustine teo (current apache commander, 123 2nd co, sharp shooter on fennec), ng chee pin (now sia pilot, left rsaf as 124 instructor), surresh(i think) and an india guy if i not wrong, could be chinese. when they come back with fennecs, the a2 and c2 operated as a single squadron, that means 123 was both training and attack. if i not wrong, there was 2 co, kohj and another koh, cannot rem his name. according to peter teo(ex sbab co, and ndp parade commander) some one in hq came up with a brilliant idea to form 124 and transfer the training part to 124, the 'enemy' will be tricked into thinking that 124 is the attack fennec sqadron and leave 123 alone. at that time the true capability of c2 was top secret. its also that time when mg han eng juan, chief army, took flying lessons at 124. he flew about 12 lessons i think and was given rsaf wings, he then went over to 123 and operated the tow on the c2. he was instrument in bring the fennec to ex wallaby. i don't agree that only in 1996 did we test the tow, we tested earlier than that. i saw a tow that was fired in an ex and recovered much earlier than 1996. to my knowledge, tow were never publicly carried even in sbab, they are carried only overseas.
about the current state of fennecs, afm got it wrong, a few of them are preserved at st eng and could be sold to rnzaf. current fennec got no attack ability, questionable also. i would not reveal the current fleet but afm got it all wrong. -
There was a AS-550C2 equipped with TOW during the RSAF Open House in 1998. Would'nt it be better to have the Fennecs operating with the Apaches in the observation role like the american Kiowas and the apaches?
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hmm wonder y AFM also left out the Sigint capablities of the RSAF? the C130 and the Black Crow F50..they were in an article in Janes Defence weekly..need to go back and check arhieve on the actual issues