hope for Singapore
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I know that this does not concern military mostly and should be in Speaker's Corner.Sorry ah moderator.
Is there hope for our country.If you look at many threads,the conclusion is that we are doomed in the long term.The Straits Times,thought mostly accurate,is indeed a government propaganda piece.
Our SAF is run by a bunch of scholar generals who I am unsure of.Do they know what they are doing?
Our future Prime Minister is the Supreme Commander of the SAF,or so I am to understand,Brigadier General Lee.
To put things straight,we are a constitutional monarchy in all but name.What has happened to many of the old values?They had their worth but have been discarded.
Singapore is facing a crisis of identity,of society.We have a massive influx of migrants.Our identity is under stress.We are at an important stage in our country's future,determining our future.
Our govt is a bureaucracy of mandarins.Will we have to wait until Old Man Lee aka Senile Minister Lee aka Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew the esteemed ruler of our country dies?Will we have to wait that long for change.
I have some hope for Singapore.But in the darkness that clouds the world,my hope rises and falls like the tide.I worry about my homeland,of jungle and concrete,of monsoons and cloudy skies,of stinking heat and humid air.my HOMELAND.
With all its imperfections,Singapore is a human construct.Against all odds it has made it for 30 over years,with many factors in our favour.With the rise of the giants,what are we to do?
I don't know the answer,and our faulty government doesn't know either.Yes,our government is human too.They have made screw ups.Why not come out and admit it.The public will forgive them,or are they scared for their honour,of face?
What will it take to stir up Singapore's spirit?Do we have the fighting mettle it takes to survive the coming challenges?Through sacrifice,blood and tears the men of SIngapore have defended the country,have raised families as best as they can along with their women.
We are all sworn defenders of this home of ours.What will we do for it?Will we accept it with is imperfections and embrace it,try to make it better?Will we die for it,our home and our lovers,families,friends and comrades?
Is there hope? -
i most prolly won't follow orders if anything happens... unless they make sense... otherwise, i'll just say "yes sir" and twist the order ard..
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Singapore is a multi-racial nation. no such thing as mandarin domination. u hear mandarin more ? cos of population ratio....u go everywhere also got English and Chinese translation becos English is well-known to all of us, we were taught English since we in kindergarden. Chinese is because we might have people who dunno English well....dats why u see some uncle aunties reading Lian He Zao/Wan Bao. Another factor is because of foreign talents from China as their English is not so good.
Regarding foreign talent, it is vital for the government to employ them so we can benchmark against other nations. If we only employ Singaporeans, there is no drive to improve oneselves. With the introduction of foreign talents, Singaporeans will strive to improve themselves and all these will help improve Singapore's economy. We have no raw materials....hope you understand. -
FYi, BG Lee is not the Supreme Commander of the SAF.But i agree with you that to solve our current problems, we cannot afford to hide behind excuses and shallow reasoning, especially for the ones who are entrusted with running our country.The distinction made a long time ago that the government is here to serve has long been forgotten, and now we see our country being run like a corporation and our voices are not valued in a world where only the bottomline matters...
I seriously hope our youth , being screwed up their behind with illogically timed policies and incoherent and unrealistic demands made on them as if they were mechanical widgets.If there is violent form or catharissi like the violence of Japanese teens and their self-imposed isolation from their world, sad will be too mild a word to use.We need change and the world waits for no man, let alone former soldiers running a country that had no right to exist but by the foresight of our Old Guard. -
Hence, talk no more but take positive action to stoke the change you speak of. Change can come from within through peaceful evolution or violently through revolution. Take your pick but choose wisely, you must know the consequences of your actions, lest you set our country back in time...
Inaction is also a decision. A decision that you take to be dormant and inactive, then you become a follower and your destiny tied to those whom you choose to lead.
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Meanwhile, make alot of babies
because that's the real crisis ahead if you want to maintain the meaning of Singapore
You got to trust that thru all this uncertainties will rise some kind of new balance.......that's provided the 'Pot' remains intact.
So if we stick up for Singapore.....and then get down and stir ourselves new dishes for the menu.
It will take some time but Singapore will get there.
Get Horny first! -
that's what i would do to...Originally posted by Moonstriker:i most prolly won't follow orders if anything happens... unless they make sense... otherwise, i'll just say "yes sir" and twist the order ard..
no sense, no do. -
Sarkaudar, I seriously doubt that Singaporeans will fight specifically to keep the current government in place. However, in the event of war, the incumbent government will constitute the leadership of what amounts to Singaporeans' lives. They will not be fighting for the government, but will instead be fighting for their own lives and the lives of their loved ones. Hopefully that will be motivation enough for them to prevail.
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singapore going downhill lar....
economy so f*cked up, gahmen say its recovering, tax this tax that. this thing price increase that thing oso price increase. they say these price hikes are 'necessary', dat mayb true, buden y now???
education oso f*cked, got stoopig principals anyhow call police, screw up student's future, got SAT test removal etc etc. duno whether good or bad sia...
army overbudget...and we still dun have a decent MBT.
buy pway ki so long still haven decide.
in short, we're all f*cked..... haiz -
yeap..govt can be re-elected...Originally posted by Gedanken:Sarkaudar, I seriously doubt that Singaporeans will fight specifically to keep the current government in place. However, in the event of war, the incumbent government will constitute the leadership of what amounts to Singaporeans' lives. They will not be fighting for the government, but will instead be fighting for their own lives and the lives of their loved ones. Hopefully that will be motivation enough for them to prevail.
we fight for the land itself n our family n frens... -
they like to say economy not good is an excuse to get more out from us citizens...Originally posted by Groovee:singapore going downhill lar.... economy so f*cked up, gahmen say its recovering, tax this tax that. this thing price increase that thing oso price increase. they say these price hikes are 'necessary', dat mayb true, buden y now???
education oso f*cked, got stoopig principals anyhow call police, screw up student's future, got SAT test removal etc etc. duno whether good or bad sia...
army overbudget...and we still dun have a decent MBT.buy pway ki so long still haven decide.
in short, we're all f*cked..... haiz
We dun need a main battle tank.... the problem facing us now is not NGF or new MBT... is Singaporean's attitude towards 'fighting'.
When i say fighting, i doesn't only mean combat but also refers to wad happens to their daily life. Anyway, without replacement for the SM1, the countries nearest to us also cannot outmatch out armour.
'The principal who called the police' incident u referring to the news where students get caught with porn?? -
x2Originally posted by Gedanken:Sarkaudar, I seriously doubt that Singaporeans will fight specifically to keep the current government in place. However, in the event of war, the incumbent government will constitute the leadership of what amounts to Singaporeans' lives. They will not be fighting for the government, but will instead be fighting for their own lives and the lives of their loved ones. Hopefully that will be motivation enough for them to prevail.
One Colonel aptly put it before an audience during one of those 'day'
"I hate the SAF, but I love my country!" -
I sincerely hope that things in this society will change... there is totally no spirit in ordinary Singaporeans i see around me... too much 'quitters'... too much people who cannot find reason for them to stay....
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there is..n its also the reason they are leaving..its money..Originally posted by Airborne Guards:I sincerely hope that things in this society will change... there is totally no spirit in ordinary Singaporeans i see around me... too much 'quitters'... too much people who cannot find reason for them to stay.... -
Nathan, there are other reasons besides money - we've spoken a lot about it in Speaker's Corner already.
At the end of the day, money is only a short-term motivator. Give someone a raise, and research shows that after 3 weeks his performance will go back to pre-raise standards.
If anything, in times of war, money-making opportunities will diminish in most industries anyway, and if that's the only motivator for staying, people will just take what they have and head for the hills. -
yes Ged its not always abt money..but most of the time n most of the people are thinking of money..Originally posted by Gedanken:Nathan, there are other reasons besides money - we've spoken a lot about it in Speaker's Corner already.
At the end of the day, money is only a short-term motivator. Give someone a raise, and research shows that after 3 weeks his performance will go back to pre-raise standards.
If anything, in times of war, money-making opportunities will diminish in most industries anyway, and if that's the only motivator for staying, people will just take what they have and head for the hills.
i never wish if i ever get rich...u too rite?
i once say there are 2 kind of people leaving Singapore..
the 1st leave Singapore quietly..hoping one day they will come back again when time are better..
the 2nd kind leave Singapore n bashes those still working hard on this Island hopeful of better time..because they cant be rich n they feel bitter abt it n try all way to justify their leaving..
n again its not my problem anymore..when war come n i get recall..i'ii head to my base armskote..n do wat im suppose to do..
n screw those who think tis country is not worth defending.. -
I think things in Singapore are great. They are not as good as the boom years of the 90's, but those were the exception, not the rule. I think that too many Singaporeans have grown to regard that sort of an environment as "normal". Many people on this forum are young, and your entire childhood (entire life actually) has been in the midst of an economic boom, so it may seem like the world is ending. It is actually just returning to normal. From the state of the economy, everything else springs.
As for the political situation, things have improved a lot, and they continue to improve. Lee Hsien Loong will not have anywhere near the level of power his father enjoyed. The press is also much freer -- if you don't like a conservative newspaper like ST, read the liberal Today, or simply look around the Internet. The civil service has always been open to anyone -- it is not an aristocracy. Anyone can rise through the service, though your effort must begin in childhood at school.
The military situation is as it has always been. No matter what, we are not a battle-tested force, and if all goes well that will remain so. Battle is the primary means of eliminating incompetent commanders, and we lack it. Fortunately, the SAF personnel system at least seems to eliminate useless officers before they reach COL, and bad NCOs before WO2 -- I have never seen a bad colonel, general or warrant (especially the last). Screw ups are simply a fact of life in any organization of hundreds of thousands of men, so I am not too worried there. -
agree with ya on e attitude thingy. yea, i was talking abt e porno vcd incident. duno what in e world e principal was thinking sia...Originally posted by Airborne Guards:they like to say economy not good is an excuse to get more out from us citizens...
We dun need a main battle tank.... the problem facing us now is not NGF or new MBT... is Singaporean's attitude towards 'fighting'.
When i say fighting, i doesn't only mean combat but also refers to wad happens to their daily life. Anyway, without replacement for the SM1, the countries nearest to us also cannot outmatch out armour.
'The principal who called the police' incident u referring to the news where students get caught with porn??