Singapore's Next Generation Fighter
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My bet is on the Rafale... Although the F-15T is nice it is already an old platform compared to the Rafale despitet their upgrades and all. Also i agree that we cannot buy everything american... one day we fall out over something how? Die lor.... I hope we see the F-35 in 2014..
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I'm placing my bet with the F15T. 8 - 12 plane buy.
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[quote]Originally posted by insouciant:
I'm placing my bet with the F15T. 8 - 12 plane buy.[/quote[/img] -
huge feeling - F-15T
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Betting on the Rafale F3...
Reason being the pattern of SAF procurements...
Remember before we bought the Apaches there was much hype about the Eurocopter Tiger?
Or much publicity on German Type 206/209 SSKs before we purchased the Sjoormen SSKs?
Not forgetting the Visby class FSG before we ordered the Formidable class FFG?
Sometimes I feel that the SAF deliberately hints wrongly about our possible procurements to give us an added edge over potential aggressors... -
In this case it isn't the SAF hinting, but the Pentagon informing Congress about possible sale.
As powerful as SAF is, I don't think they can get Pentagon to go through all that paperwork hassle for nothing.
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that was submitted by boeing ... probably as a psychological tactic ..... to squeeze Dassault's balls perhaps ... doesn't mean anything in itself really ...Originally posted by insouciant:In this case it isn't the SAF hinting, but the Pentagon informing Congress about possible sale.
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Another smoke bomb?Originally posted by Kovy:
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According to Flight International, BoeingÂ’s F-15T is the favourite to win Singapore's Next Generation Fighter competition.
SingaporeÂ’s Defence Science & Technology Agency has completed its evaluation of the F-15T and Rafale and is believed to be recommending the Boeing fighter.
http://www.alert5.com/2005/08/singapore-closes-in-on-next-generation.html -
Hopefully the Rafale F3 will win...Originally posted by alert5:According to Flight International, BoeingÂ’s F-15T is the favourite to win Singapore's Next Generation Fighter competition.
SingaporeÂ’s Defence Science & Technology Agency has completed its evaluation of the F-15T and Rafale and is believed to be recommending the Boeing fighter.
http://www.alert5.com/2005/08/singapore-closes-in-on-next-generation.html
Remember that the Rooivalk was initially the recommended machine in the attack helicopter competition over the Apache?
So this could be a case of misleading the 'enemy' again... -
But the AH-64 is still the best and uncontestable choice when we made the purchase on our helio gunship. The south african copter is no way near the performance and reliability of the Longbow version of AH64Ds.
But coming to NGF, we need to be very careful in balancing the cost efficency and future performance enhanecment potential. As we know, we might be getting a new fighter 10-15 years down the road, so we have to save up a bit. But the technological roadmap alos pointed to another interesting development in aerial warfare: UCAV. The UCAV is cheap and deadly, but it would success in a battelfield if only the the UCAV operator has a superiority in ECCM and ECM warfare. What is critical in the NGF deal would be the ECM warfare technologies transfer / sharing / development package deal.
F15T maybe old, USAF is also retiring a sizable of old F15A/Bs. But USAF still holds the best ECCM/ECM technologies in the world. They had been very very relunctant on sharing info with others. But with the recent cosy ambient btw USN and RSN in the spartan program, I am quite sure we can get a good deal in terms of $$$ and know-how from states. Anyway, it is more useful to do our Uncle Sam a favour by supporting the F15T production line through 2010. Sg will benefits economically and technologically. -
True...Originally posted by archon1234:But the AH-64 is still the best and uncontestable choice when we made the purchase on our helio gunship. The south african copter is no way near the performance and reliability of the Longbow version of AH64Ds.
But coming to NGF, we need to be very careful in balancing the cost efficency and future performance enhanecment potential. As we know, we might be getting a new fighter 10-15 years down the road, so we have to save up a bit. But the technological roadmap alos pointed to another interesting development in aerial warfare: UCAV. The UCAV is cheap and deadly, but it would success in a battelfield if only the the UCAV operator has a superiority in ECCM and ECM warfare. What is critical in the NGF deal would be the ECM warfare technologies transfer / sharing / development package deal.
F15T maybe old, USAF is also retiring a sizable of old F15A/Bs. But USAF still holds the best ECCM/ECM technologies in the world. They had been very very relunctant on sharing info with others. But with the recent cosy ambient btw USN and RSN in the spartan program, I am quite sure we can get a good deal in terms of $$$ and know-how from states. Anyway, it is more useful to do our Uncle Sam a favour by supporting the F15T production line through 2010. Sg will benefits economically and technologically.
But we should have requested for a genuine stand-off weapon like the
SLAM-ER missiles in the deal too...They can be used for attacking high priority targets and the JSOWs and JDAMs should suffice for the less well-defended targets.
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If rumours are true, we do not rely on the SLAM-ER for our long range missile needs.Originally posted by Delta 5:True...
But we should have requested for a genuine stand-off weapon like the
SLAM-ER missiles in the deal too...They can be used for attacking high priority targets and the JSOWs and JDAMs should suffice for the less well-defended targets. -
You mean the AGM-142 Have Nap as mentioned in Defending the Lion City?Originally posted by LazerLordz:If rumours are true, we do not rely on the SLAM-ER for our long range missile needs.
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What rumours? What weopons? Can say here since they are only "rumours"... Bwahahahahaha....Originally posted by LazerLordz:If rumours are true, we do not rely on the SLAM-ER for our long range missile needs.
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What rumours? What weopons? Can say here since they are only "rumours"... Bwahahahahaha....Originally posted by LazerLordz:If rumours are true, we do not rely on the SLAM-ER for our long range missile needs. -
Something along that line..I do think that we are not late to the game.Originally posted by Delta 5:You mean the AGM-142 Have Nap as mentioned in Defending the Lion City?
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i got the feeling it could be a smoke bomb....
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Do we have this???
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this is F-35 ... think singapore will get some soon,.,,,,, this is an international project and we help them develop some thing..heard from else whereOriginally posted by fai:Do we have this??? -
this is F-35 ... think singapore will get some soon,.,,,,, this is an international project and we help them develop some thing..heard from else where
This is the F-22 the big brother of the F-35
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F-35?! That's the F/A-22 Raptor! But if you are referring whether the RSAF will have them? Sure! In year 2030!Originally posted by c0ol_blu3z:this is F-35 ... think singapore will get some soon,.,,,,, this is an international project and we help them develop some thing..heard from else where
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Singapore participated as "security cooperative participants."
wad does that mean?????
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F-35 cockpit???
