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It's probably closer to idiocy, the trend of which has already been established.Originally posted by HENG@:glad u know that.
because, see, dear friend J there is suggesting insanity. -
insanity, idiocy, either way, it implies something seriously wrong with his grey matter, if not a lack of it.Originally posted by Gedanken:It's probably closer to idiocy, the trend of which has already been established. -
I dont mind, all the generals, crabs and hairstyle disaster guy can run in front of me and I fire the GPMG, I 'will' try my best to shoot over them and 'try' not to hit them in the butt!
Muahahhahahahhaha
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Did i recommend using live rounds for our soldiers? Or was it purely a statement? It was something that a specialist told me during one guard duty. But i'm not going to say that he's stupid for it makes sense. If we fight a war, what happen in it will train us to be a better soldier, in war we use live rounds don't we?Originally posted by HENG@:glad u know that.
because, see, dear friend J there is suggesting insanity.
Oh ya, BAC... been a long time, the ongoing gpmg firing did deter us from standing. It did for me.
I don't mind u guys calling me insane, stupid or whatever. Carry on and enjoy yourself, i won't lose a piece of my flesh because of this. I don't like to argue for i do not know why what i wrote contradicts each other in the first post. When i wish to know why, there isn't any but i'm being called an idiot. Well, you are clever indeed Gedanken, i'm lucky not have a teacher like you, calling his student idiots when asked. -
Hmm... i should say it will be a gd thing that you are not a teacher.
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my commando fren had a round whizz past him while training in australia. seems like our aussie friends were playing a fool.
that was about 4 years ago, but he said it scared the sh!t out of him. said if he got hit, the entry would be about 1 inch, the exit would be like 5. -
so u're saying its ok to have a few KIAs during training, because that would make for realistic training?Originally posted by jacobs:If we fight a war, what happen in it will train us to be a better soldier, in war we use live rounds don't we?
One can NEVER fully prepare 100% for a war. if u are training at 100% realism of wartime conditions, then its not training anymore. its called war. -
You're obviously in no position to make recommendations, so it was taken as your opinion. Even at that level, the above line is so poorly thought through as to be idiotic.Originally posted by jacobs:The best way to train a soldier to take proper cover is to use live rounds.
So you're saying that this was you parroting some armchair general's mindless ramblings? Effectively, you're not only proposing a plainly idiotic idea, it's one that you've borrowed from another idiot.
As for teaching, a series of First and Second Upper Class Honours holders for whom I acted as tutor and thesis co-supervisor from 1998 through 2002 would heartily disagree with you about my teaching abilities, so that's another idiotic opinion you've proffered. It's just that I do not suffer fools, and I've turned down students a lot smarter than you - it wouldn't have been worth the annoyance. -
Been on the other side of that situation - I nearly took someone's leg off when I was charging up a hill and firing an Ultimax. The tracer went past the guy's leg and we both stopped dead in our tracks. To this day, over beers, he still swears black and blue that I didn't tell him to slow down and not get in front of me.Originally posted by nismoS132:my commando fren had a round whizz past him while training in australia. seems like our aussie friends were playing a fool.
that was about 4 years ago, but he said it scared the sh!t out of him. said if he got hit, the entry would be about 1 inch, the exit would be like 5.
That exit wound size sounds about right - it could actually be bigger. That's why the 5.56 ball round was nearly banned when it was first introduced - I think it was the Geneva Convention that it was claimed to be in violation of. -
i just dont get it...
i guess kids nowadays are more garang or plain dumb?
the word death never cross their mind..
using live rounds for more realistic training?? hey y not we just throw out the TSR..kick n slap our trainee..slid their active throat to show them how to kill...
something more funny is tat...one think tat hiding in training shed while there is CAT1 is a cowardly way..n the day he post..a soccer player was strike by lightning..hey talk abt being a pussy..tat guy just save his team unknowingly from more death..
i wonder how he will feel if one of his men sway sway kena strike by lightning...i bet he will kick his men corpse n abuse him claiming tat he is a pussy..cos he got strike by lightning..
go shoot yourself to show your men how does a bullet wound look like.. -
Guys......I think this is just a misunderstanding lah...
If you look back to the posts again, you'll see a broader perspective in the issue.....jacob may be just make a figure of speech and Gedanken might have took offence.....but we all know that such arguement can be easiler resolved with a little "give and take" okay....
Everyone for their view and opinions in things cos you can't please everyone...so relac bros.....it's not like we are making a big "once in a lifetime" descision at will affect other's lifes....
I hope I've put off the small flame.....Just be open-mind....if you dun accept, fine....type your arguement but dun resort to man-calling and stuff....
cheers.....
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whoa momma!Originally posted by Gedanken:Been on the other side of that situation - I nearly took someone's leg off when I was charging up a hill and firing an Ultimax. The tracer went past the guy's leg and we both stopped dead in our tracks. To this day, over beers, he still swears black and blue that I didn't tell him to slow down and not get in front of me.
That exit wound size sounds about right - it could actually be bigger. That's why the 5.56 ball round was nearly banned when it was first introduced - I think it was the Geneva Convention that it was claimed to be in violation of. -
Well...... to turn down students with the interest to learn... What are your ethics in teaching....? If you feel strongly right about your opinions, is there a need to call ppl idiots? I guess god gave you high IQ but a very low EQ.Originally posted by Gedanken:You're obviously in no position to make recommendations, so it was taken as your opinion. Even at that level, the above line is so poorly thought through as to be idiotic.
So you're saying that this was you parroting some armchair general's mindless ramblings? Effectively, you're not only proposing a plainly idiotic idea, it's one that you've borrowed from another idiot.
As for teaching, a series of First and Second Upper Class Honours holders for whom I acted as tutor and thesis co-supervisor from 1998 through 2002 would heartily disagree with you about my teaching abilities, so that's another idiotic opinion you've proffered. It's just that I do not suffer fools, and I've turned down students a lot smarter than you - it wouldn't have been worth the annoyance. -
I'm saying in war, some experiences like death of your buddy for not taking the right cover in a fire fight will teach us to take better cover. Or you shall suffer the same fate. One can nv 100% fully for a war, I repeat, i did not suggest training with wartime conditions which would contradict one of my post. It says that we should nv compromise safety in training during peacetime. And it's certainly not right to have KIAs during training.Originally posted by HENG@:so u're saying its ok to have a few KIAs during training, because that would make for realistic training?
One can NEVER fully prepare 100% for a war. if u are training at 100% realism of wartime conditions, then its not training anymore. its called war. -
Read back through this thread and see who introduced the word idiot. Specifically, I said that your suggestion of using live ammo to teach men to take cover, if implemented, would be worthy of a Darwin Award, and I stand by that. Certainly the other cases cited have described extremely unnecessary deaths, which is where this live ammo idea is headed IMO.Originally posted by jacobs:is there a need to call ppl idiots?
You, jacobs, brought the word idiot upon yourself. Not that I disagreed after you did that, but let's get it clear that you started this "idiot" business yourself.
As for you and the students I turned down, what gives you the idea that I run a charity here? Am I ethically obliged to educate any of you? If I had wasted my time on those students, the real crime would be that those who could used my help to best effect would have been robbed. There's absolutely no problem with my EQ - you're the one who doesn't seem to have a handle on balancing logic and sentiment. -
then what is this???Originally posted by jacobs:I repeat, i did not suggest training with wartime conditions which would contradict one of my post. It says that we should nv compromise safety in training during peacetime. And it's certainly not right to have KIAs during training.
[quote]Originally posted by jacobs:
The best way to train a soldier to take proper cover is to use live rounds.
THAT sure as hell ain't the best way because the risk of KIA is wayyy too high!
dun argue about u meaning wartime conditions because u stated very clearly the word "TRAIN" in your statement. -
Ok, so i know you are not a very charitable person. And you would rather teach those who can used your help to the best effect than those who need your help. Yeah, you have no problems with your EQ. Are you a gd enough judge of yourself to say that? Oh... the ans from you would be a big YES again.Originally posted by Gedanken:Read back through this thread and see who introduced the word idiot. Specifically, I said that your suggestion of using live ammo to teach men to take cover, if implemented, would be worthy of a Darwin Award, and I stand by that. Certainly the other cases cited have described extremely unnecessary deaths, which is where this live ammo idea is headed IMO.
You, jacobs, brought the word idiot upon yourself. Not that I disagreed after you did that, but let's get it clear that you started this "idiot" business yourself.
As for you and the students I turned down, what gives you the idea that I run a charity here? Am I ethically obliged to educate any of you? If I had wasted my time on those students, the real crime would be that those who could used my help to best effect would have been robbed. There's absolutely no problem with my EQ - you're the one who doesn't seem to have a handle on balancing logic and sentiment. -
Silenthunter, with all due respect, I do not believe that jacobs' passive-aggressiveness deserves any other kind of response. This "I'll say something controversial and then act dumb, injured and innocent" tactic is one that simply cannot be respected. I will cease and desist if you so require, but I will stand by everything that I have said thus far.
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You're starting to get the idea. Why I'm an organisational psychologist is because my professional interest is in the maximisation of performance. Had I wanted to bring the dysfunctional to a functional state, I would have chosen to be a counselling or clinical psychologist. And yes, I am in fact certified to provide a professional opinion on EQ and other psychological aspects - what about you?Originally posted by jacobs:Ok, so i know you are not a very charitable person. And you would rather teach those who can used your help to the best effect than those who need your help. Yeah, you have no problems with your EQ. Are you a gd enough judge of yourself to say that? Oh... the ans from you would be a big YES again. -
Just so you don't waste your time trying to push a disconnected button, the rest of the psychological profession calls us orgs "the dark side of the force", and it happens to be a label I happily wear.
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Maximisation of performance in business?Originally posted by Gedanken:You're starting to get the idea. Why I'm an organisational psychologist is because my professional interest is in the maximisation of performance. Had I wanted to bring the dysfunctional to a functional state, I would have chosen to be a counselling or clinical psychologist. And yes, I am in fact certified to provide a professional opinion on EQ and other psychological aspects - what about you?
Hmm, tot u said last time you did some counselling work too? -
Counselling is a generalised skill that psychologists of all sub-specialties are required to have - in my work, these skills are used to help clarify client's requirements. And yes, I spent four years working with kids in the welfare system. I won't deny that I enjoyed doing that, but these days my time is better spent in raising performance.Originally posted by laurence82:Maximisation of performance in business?
Hmm, tot u said last time you did some counselling work too? -
Hmm, maximising performance of an organisation like improving communication at all levels, resolving conflicts, raising morale, inducing some forms of effective organisational culture? I mean is your job focused on the pshycological aspects of the oganisations only?Originally posted by Gedanken:Counselling is a generalised skill that psychologists of all sub-specialties are required to have - in my work, these skills are used to help clarify client's requirements. And yes, I spent four years working with kids in the welfare system. I won't deny that I enjoyed doing that, but these days my time is better spent in raising performance. -
Well, officially it's Industrial / Organisational psych. This covers a whole lot of stuff including what you've mentioned. Personally, I take raised morale to be a result rather than a cause, though - I don't go for that rah-rah stuff.
My main area originally was recruitment and selection, including all of the psych testing and interviewing involved, and this led to organisational structure design later. I later went over to program evaluation, which in turn led to human factors work, mainly involving HCI (Human Computer Interaction), as well as things like situational awareness and cognitive performance in stressful or emergency conditions. -
Ah har, well, i know my limits. Frankly, it would be nice of you to explain some things. But then again, you rather not.