How to become a SOF???
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Hey i am just curious??
How to be selected to be a SOF??
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Originally posted by force83:
This was told to me in the late 80s by my coy mate who is a regular undergoing secret training for SOF.
[b]Hey i am just curious??
How to be selected to be a SOF?? [/b]
First thing you must a regular & volunteer for SOF, not necessary a cdo.
Then you go thru a selection test and if you are selected, you will go thru 2 phases of training and pass both b4 you become a SOF.
I think it is like US Navy SEAL when navy serviceman from all type of vocation volunteer to be SEAL, but they will not automatically become one unless they pass the course, afterwhich they will do a tour of duty or more.
After the tour of duty, I think you could go back to your former unit/vocation.
As for what is the training, dun ask me as he is very secretive abt it.
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Just a few things, Gary. I don't think you have to be a regular when you sign up for selection - the guys from CDO I knew who went for selection were NSF when they did it. Also, once you're posted to SOF, you stay there except when you're rotated through your tours of duty, typically in 1 CDO (e.g. a CSM tour if you're a specialist, or an OC tour if you're an officer).
As for the training, I was from 1 CDO, but some of my company mates went over to force line, so I know a fair number of the guys there. They don't talk much about the training, and I don't ask. What I do know is that it's not so much a question of what you do, but what the selection panel sees of how you do it. -
one tip: when they ask you to write about your parents, don't say that you're overdependent on them. e.g. My mummy takes very good care of me blah blah...
Standard answer that will sure pass.
My mother is my maid. My father is my ATM.
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Originally posted by force83:
SOF does not recruit civilians directly. You will have to be serving in the SAF for a year at least (if I remembered), PES A with perfect eyesight. Usually - they will come around with a list of names - to invite individuals to try out for selection. People from different units can try the selection - but most will come from combat units. (Commandos, Guards, etc)
[b]Hey i am just curious??
How to be selected to be a SOF?? [/b] -
yeah, they'll send you an invitation when you are about to ORD if you are eligible to go for selection coz' my friends and I got 1. I still have that letter with me but I don't think i can reveal too much details about it. BUt i'll list out the pre-requisites as indicated.
1) All male serviceman (regulars/nsf) who completed at least 9months of service.
2) Below 30 yrs old
3) PES B or better
4) at least 1.57m
5) at least 54kgs
6) 6/12 eyesight or better and no color blind
7) N level or better
if you fit the above description, you'll be eligible to go for selection -
i fit all those criterions...
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Here's a website showing a sample form.Can it be confirmed?I'm not sure.Juz for info.
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dont think they wan buayas.Originally posted by sgboy2004:i fit all those criterions...
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buaya cdo...scary~
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In the 80s, the SOF is still a classified unit, btw, it sound that NSF need to sign on if they wanted to be in the SOF since they will be a CSM or OC.Originally posted by Gedanken:Just a few things, Gary. I don't think you have to be a regular when you sign up for selection - the guys from CDO I knew who went for selection were NSF when they did it. Also, once you're posted to SOF, you stay there except when you're rotated through your tours of duty, typically in 1 CDO (e.g. a CSM tour if you're a specialist, or an OC tour if you're an officer).
So the cdo NSF signed on after selection or after they became SOF then?
How abt now since they no more a classified unit, could a NSF become a SOF w/o signing on? -
Gary, the guys I knew signed on after they passed selection, juts before they began their training. I know one guy who left after a year or so, and he was effectively classified as having ORD'd.
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they've sent me a letter before just before i ORDed and asking me to go for their selection...
so i think its by invitation or unless you are already in CDO and you express an interest to join the elite... -
a group of them from my unit went for the selection. within that group there were a few nsf.Originally posted by gary1910:In the 80s, the SOF is still a classified unit, btw, it sound that NSF need to sign on if they wanted to be in the SOF since they will be a CSM or OC.
So the cdo NSF signed on after selection or after they became SOF then?
How abt now since they no more a classified unit, could a NSF become a SOF w/o signing on? -
see...mi in green uniform all the time..mi make good Croco SOF...to catch croco mahOriginally posted by Groovee:buaya cdo...scary~
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yeap, this is the form.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Here's a website showing a sample form.Can it be confirmed?I'm not sure.Juz for info.
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Interesting - unless, they've changed it, the insignia looks wrong, though.
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The insignia is correct =)
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Yup, the insignia is correct.
I've seen some SOF candidates going through tekan 'training', as they sometimes train using the common facilities and training areas in Hendon Camp. Naturally, their tekan-ing is even more vicious than standard Commando tekan-ing. But it seems that the Ranger course is even tougher than SOF training. So, use your imagination, boys
Respect the guys with the red tabs. -
Looks like it is quite easy! I bet a lot of people meet the criteria.Originally posted by 12qwaszx:yeah, they'll send you an invitation when you are about to ORD if you are eligible to go for selection coz' my friends and I got 1. I still have that letter with me but I don't think i can reveal too much details about it. BUt i'll list out the pre-requisites as indicated.
1) All male serviceman (regulars/nsf) who completed at least 9months of service.
2) Below 30 yrs old
3) PES B or better
4) at least 1.57m
5) at least 54kgs
6) 6/12 eyesight or better and no color blind
7) N level or better
if you fit the above description, you'll be eligible to go for selection -
meeting the criteria is one thing...passing the selection test is another..Originally posted by spencer99:Looks like it is quite easy! I bet a lot of people meet the criteria.
there are cases where no one pass the selection test.. -
I can't say I remember that particular insignia, but it is different from the badge that I've seen worn the uniform.Originally posted by subudei:Yup, the insignia is correct.
I've seen some SOF candidates going through tekan 'training', as they sometimes train using the common facilities and training areas in Hendon Camp. Naturally, their tekan-ing is even more vicious than standard Commando tekan-ing. But it seems that the Ranger course is even tougher than SOF training. So, use your imagination, boys Respect the guys with the red tabs.
Agreed re: Ranger. It's not unknown for SOF men to fail Ranger - the difference seems to lie mainly in the duration of the tekaning. Over on the battalion side, we used to speculate on the differences between Hell Week and the two 30-day stretches in the Ranger course. Then again, back in my day, the pass rate for Ranger used to be about 30% - most of our instructors came back to the company sans tab and hair. Some of my former mates are now Ranger cadres, and while they're still friendly enough over beers, I wouldn't recommend meeting them in a dark alley.
As for SOF training, stick around Changi Beach long enough and you could spot them doing their open-water swims. -
n other way round too..Originally posted by Gedanken:That is correct - SOF men have been known to fail Ranger.
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eh bro..english no gd..wat do u mean by tat???Originally posted by Gedanken:I can't say I remember that particular insignia, but it is different from the badge that I've seen worn the uniform.
Agreed re: Ranger. It's not unknown for SOF men to fail Ranger - the difference seems to lie mainly in the duration of the tekaning. Over on the battalion side, we used to speculate on the differences between Hell Week and the two 30-day stretches in the Ranger course. Then again, back in my day, the pass rate for Ranger used to be about 30% - most of our instructors came back to the company sans tab and hair. Some of my former mates are now Ranger cadres, and while they're still friendly enough over beers, I wouldn't recommend meeting them in a dark alley. -
Nathan - when you say that you wouldn't want to meet somebody in a dark alley, you mean that the person is scary.
There's one particular guy from my platoon who's now a Ranger cadre and also an instructor in PTW. Back when we were serving together, he was a really nice guy, kind of goofy, really. I actually caught up with him a few weeks ago, after not having seen him for about 11 years, and he's still the same. Later, my friend's cousin from to 2001 batch said that this guy was a real saidst and I said, "What? He's the nicest guy on the planet!", but I later checked up with the other guys from my company, and they told me that when the drowning incident happened, everybody breathed a sigh of relief that this guy was out of town at the time - he would have been the first to be blamed.