NS SUCKS
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yeah, btw, +1
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don't worry, kids will grow up... weather he likes it or not..
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hmm i was planning on enjoying ns.. its a change of environment la.. but now i not so sure.. like everything i dunno.
what advice can u give to prepare? -
Just take it as it comes.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:hmm i was planning on enjoying ns.. its a change of environment la.. but now i not so sure.. like everything i dunno.
what advice can u give to prepare? -
Life sux ns aso sux but i kinda miss ns after i ord.
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If NS don't sucks, it is not NS
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go with a positive mind and take everything positively.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:hmm i was planning on enjoying ns.. its a change of environment la.. but now i not so sure.. like everything i dunno.
what advice can u give to prepare?
ppl shout at you? think abt it. what did u do to make ur superiors shout at you?
sure, u may feel it is something small, something not worth the punishment. but it IS something that you have done wrong. So aim to do as little mistakes as possible. -
see here http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=53849Originally posted by dumbdumb!:hmm i was planning on enjoying ns.. its a change of environment la.. but now i not so sure.. like everything i dunno.
what advice can u give to prepare? -
Oh no, Mel Carter wannabe strikes again!
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Haiz....Haben go in army sae army sucks liao...-_-
Compared to last time...now the welfare,food,etc, is so much better than last time...
The generation is getting from bad to worse...wonder how our next generation is going to take ns? -
gonna agree with you......Originally posted by Patrik:Haiz....Haben go in army sae army sucks liao...-_-
Compared to last time...now the welfare,food,etc, is so much better than last time...
The generation is getting from bad to worse...wonder how our next generation is going to take ns?
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Well, i went into NS in the early 90s and there was complaining back then. I am sure pple complained back in the 80s and 70s as well. i would put money down on seeing kids complain abt NS 20years from now. The fact of the matter is that people will always complain, especially when they are forced to do something, whether good or bad.Originally posted by Patrik:Haiz....Haben go in army sae army sucks liao...-_-
Compared to last time...now the welfare,food,etc, is so much better than last time...
The generation is getting from bad to worse...wonder how our next generation is going to take ns?
Anyway, a lot of pple complain abt NS because it is percieved to be the cool thing to do. See what happens if somebody said "Yes, i am looking forward to NS" and how his frens would react. On the other hand, most guys who come thru NS would agree (grudgingly) that it was interesting and that they had their fair bit to look back at with some fondness. Of course, there will be those bitter people who leave with a bad taste in their mouth.
Personally, i think i enjoyed my NS days, but only after i ROD'd and thought back about the times i had. However, its a bit difficult to enjoy it when u are going thru it.
For those who are going to go into NS, just remember, take it one day at a time. U go in thinking u are wasting your time, u will end up feeling that u are wasting your time. Just go in, and keep an open mind, and be positive. A positive attitude is everything, especially during NS, and even so during life. If its one thing NS taught me, it's the importance of a positive attitude. Sometimes, it will be the only thing that's keeping u going.
Sometimes, its also the luck of the draw, cos its also the officers or NCO's or pple in the unit who can make your NS interesting or just painful. I was from a log unit, so i didn't have to run around in the jungles, but i appreciate the fact that i had a good crew and good higher-ups (ok, most of them!) watching out for us.
I wouldn't sign-on as a regular, and i am not crazy about the army, but i appreciate what its taught me, and the experiences i had in there. besides, NS stories are also a great way to break the ice when u meet other singaporeans!
just my 2 cents worth. -
actually was looking foward to it u know... and BMT was fun. but my current unit is NOT fun. slowly u realise how farked up it is as a whole, and how things are done up nicely in BMT for show, to let the parents see, and how much worse BMT is if u are in a mono-intake in some of the camps on mainland.Originally posted by Blockhead:Well, i went into NS in the early 90s and there was complaining back then. I am sure pple complained back in the 80s and 70s as well. i would put money down on seeing kids complain abt NS 20years from now. The fact of the matter is that people will always complain, especially when they are forced to do something, whether good or bad.
Anyway, a lot of pple complain abt NS because it is percieved to be the cool thing to do. See what happens if somebody said "Yes, i am looking forward to NS" and how his frens would react. On the other hand, most guys who come thru NS would agree (grudgingly) that it was interesting and that they had their fair bit to look back at with some fondness. Of course, there will be those bitter people who leave with a bad taste in their mouth.
Personally, i think i enjoyed my NS days, but only after i ROD'd and thought back about the times i had. However, its a bit difficult to enjoy it when u are going thru it.
For those who are going to go into NS, just remember, take it one day at a time. U go in thinking u are wasting your time, u will end up feeling that u are wasting your time. Just go in, and keep an open mind, and be positive. A positive attitude is everything, especially during NS, and even so during life. If its one thing NS taught me, it's the importance of a positive attitude. Sometimes, it will be the only thing that's keeping u going.
Sometimes, its also the luck of the draw, cos its also the officers or NCO's or pple in the unit who can make your NS interesting or just painful. I was from a log unit, so i didn't have to run around in the jungles, but i appreciate the fact that i had a good crew and good higher-ups (ok, most of them!) watching out for us.
I wouldn't sign-on as a regular, and i am not crazy about the army, but i appreciate what its taught me, and the experiences i had in there. besides, NS stories are also a great way to break the ice when u meet other singaporeans!
just my 2 cents worth. -
Monkey see monkey do..
People complain he also complain..
Kids.. -
Well, the beds there may not have always been Tekong standard but they are "sleepable"...you know what I'm talking about, just don't go 6th floorOriginally posted by HENG@:actually was looking foward to it u know... and BMT was fun. but my current unit is NOT fun. slowly u realise how farked up it is as a whole, and how things are done up nicely in BMT for show, to let the parents see, and how much worse BMT is if u are in a mono-intake in some of the camps on mainland.
True,known to be "wayang" sometimes but when you think back about this, this is very true of what the outside working world is about... -
Sad to say, the real world is manufactured. Its nothing more than a big movie made to look good. But this is what you learn from going thru all this. Life is not a bed of roses. No pansies.Originally posted by HENG@:actually was looking foward to it u know... and BMT was fun. but my current unit is NOT fun. slowly u realise how farked up it is as a whole, and how things are done up nicely in BMT for show, to let the parents see, and how much worse BMT is if u are in a mono-intake in some of the camps on mainland. -
NS dun really sucks loh...At least during ns..u are taught things which u wun be taught in the outside world...
And during NS....U wil learn to be more disciplined....
NS is the time u transform from a boy into a MAN -
har? how bad is it? i tink i mono intake lehz... juz got letter fr medcheckup. :/Originally posted by HENG@:actually was looking foward to it u know... and BMT was fun. but my current unit is NOT fun. slowly u realise how farked up it is as a whole, and how things are done up nicely in BMT for show, to let the parents see, and how much worse BMT is if u are in a mono-intake in some of the camps on mainland. -
The SAF is like a dam holding back the swirling floodwater of hostilities. Each man in the SAF is a boulder that forms the dam. The swirling floodwater will try to find a loose boulder to burst through. If it succeeds. Our whole island will be submerged. Every man, every link is important. The SAF is only as strong as the weakest link.
Its a pity, we have weaklings like you around, obviously you have never tasted a life of brotherhood and camarederie. I suggest you renouce your citizenship and avoid staining the essense of our existence. [/quote] -
Well said...echos more or less my thoughts exactly.Originally posted by Blockhead:Well, i went into NS in the early 90s and there was complaining back then. I am sure pple complained back in the 80s and 70s as well. i would put money down on seeing kids complain abt NS 20years from now. The fact of the matter is that people will always complain, especially when they are forced to do something, whether good or bad.
Anyway, a lot of pple complain abt NS because it is percieved to be the cool thing to do. See what happens if somebody said "Yes, i am looking forward to NS" and how his frens would react. On the other hand, most guys who come thru NS would agree (grudgingly) that it was interesting and that they had their fair bit to look back at with some fondness. Of course, there will be those bitter people who leave with a bad taste in their mouth.
Personally, i think i enjoyed my NS days, but only after i ROD'd and thought back about the times i had. However, its a bit difficult to enjoy it when u are going thru it.
For those who are going to go into NS, just remember, take it one day at a time. U go in thinking u are wasting your time, u will end up feeling that u are wasting your time. Just go in, and keep an open mind, and be positive. A positive attitude is everything, especially during NS, and even so during life. If its one thing NS taught me, it's the importance of a positive attitude. Sometimes, it will be the only thing that's keeping u going.
Sometimes, its also the luck of the draw, cos its also the officers or NCO's or pple in the unit who can make your NS interesting or just painful. I was from a log unit, so i didn't have to run around in the jungles, but i appreciate the fact that i had a good crew and good higher-ups (ok, most of them!) watching out for us.
I wouldn't sign-on as a regular, and i am not crazy about the army, but i appreciate what its taught me, and the experiences i had in there. besides, NS stories are also a great way to break the ice when u meet other singaporeans!
just my 2 cents worth.
For those who are serving, or yet to enlist..............SAF is not just about military training, is also about human management and interaction. Each of us come from different background, lifestyle and culture.......One has to learn, adapt and co-exist with others. For those who's parents are protective, and "shield" them from the world, I guess is a rude shock.
There are bound to be black sheep, like back stabbers, apple polishers, sabo kings....but I assure you that it's not that much different in the working world....sometimes your office is worse! SAF is just 2.5 yrs....if you can't adapt...the rest of your working life how ??
Is all in the brain.....if you think SAF sucks...and rotten...you will find your life inside miserable. If you go in with a positive, "can-do" attitude, learn to adapt, and shrug the unhappiness aside....Life in SAF can be fun, and interesting.
Life is not a bed of roses, is all about learning to make the best out of any situation....the mentality that determines the outcome...
Also.....the friendship that you form inside, will last over the years. It's not uncommon to call each other up for some favor or assistance in office work/personal stuff after SAF. Try not make "enemies" inside SAF also....who knows...they may end up as your boss or supervisor. Worse...you might even lose a business deal.
In short...go in with a open mind, positive attitude!
The above is my personal view, not aimed or directed at anyone. No offense of anykind meant.... Just in case......SAF lesson...cover backside. -
back in NCC(kids in uniformOriginally posted by Kaczynski:Well, the beds there may not have always been Tekong standard but they are "sleepable"...you know what I'm talking about, just don't go 6th floor
True,known to be "wayang" sometimes but when you think back about this, this is very true of what the outside working world is about... ) I had the great opportunity to sleep in a run down bunk and stay in a falling apart camp. to be honest the sponge matress is actually pretty comfy too!
anyways i feel maybe becos of my NCC experience, where we wore 1 uniform for 6 days straight, helped me to appreciate tekong BMTC much more -
I also must admit that NS do sucks in some way lah but there r some good points in it even though i hate ns...........
Ever since i log on to the sgforums i've been seeing forumite posting something like ns sucks & whatever.......really hor i individually can't change the mindsets of ppl hating NS but one of the paracounseller enlighten me with the christian poem when i told him that i hated ns. Here as it says:
God, grant me the
serenity to accept
things i cannot change
courage to change the
things i can
and wisdom to know
the difference
If u r a christian it should not be a prob 4 u. I hope these piece of msg can make u have 2nd thoughts abt ns......
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Nice....Originally posted by larrenV2.003:I also must admit that NS do sucks in some way lah but there r some good points in it even though i hate ns...........
Ever since i log on to the sgforums i've been seeing forumite posting something like ns sucks & whatever.......really hor i individually can't change the mindsets of ppl hating NS but one of the paracounseller enlighten me with the christian poem when i told him that i hated ns. Here as it says:
God, grant me the
serenity to accept
things i cannot change
courage to change the
things i can
and wisdom to know
the difference
If u r a christian it should not be a prob 4 u. I hope these piece of msg can make u have 2nd thoughts abt ns...... -
I personally think tat NS is important n i really support NS. Its the system and the way they work tat make it a bit fuck up tats why most ppl feel tat NS is a burden or hassel.... One thing i cannot understand is why SAF allow teenager to take on the role of officer... Some of them r still not mature n act childishly, this really make my eye sore... My warrant officer once told me tat last time when he was young he also has the same feeling as me but now older liao he juz dun care abt them anymore... I also hear ppl saying tat SAF is a dumping ground for those ppl tat cannot survive in the commercial sector hence sign on as SAF will so call give them the security they need... Maybe this is the reason why sometime we feel its so fuck up as we r working under those scumbags of the society... I have posted to 4 different units before n i notice tat esp the management eg DY manager, AO etc r all really cannot make it if they wanna go outside n work.... Hmmm to be fair mayb i sway as i haven't get to work under those good one...
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and the sponge mattress have hell lot of bed bugs if u forget to mention, i was in PLC and had sleepless nite...Originally posted by HENG@:back in NCC(kids in uniform ) I had the great opportunity to sleep in a run down bunk and stay in a falling apart camp. to be honest the sponge matress is actually pretty comfy too!
anyways i feel maybe becos of my NCC experience, where we wore 1 uniform for 6 days straight, helped me to appreciate tekong BMTC much more