Scout?
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I've just received my e-Posting, and I realised I've been posted to be a scout (Infantry Recee Trooper). Can anyone tell me what it is like, and what kind of training to expect?
I heard that I get to learn ONE mode of transport (jeep or motorcycle), is that true?
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Congrats. In a war, in your unit you will be one of first guys to be killed or captured!
We are very proud of you. Now train hard and then fight and die like a true soldier.
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i swear to do me best,
to do my duty to God,
to serve the people,
and maintain the SCOUT's law
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I Agree... U r indeed a brave soldier...Originally posted by spencer99:Congrats. In a war, in your unit you will be one of first guys to be killed or captured!
We are very proud of you. Now train hard and then fight and die like a true soldier. 
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Does everyone get to learn transport? Hmmm, I don't think so since they don't need so many drivers?Originally posted by pkchukiss:I heard that I get to learn ONE mode of transport (jeep or motorcycle), is that true? -
.........Originally posted by snk86:i swear to do me best,
to do my duty to God,
to serve the people,
and maintain the SCOUT's law
/run like mad to the nearless moutain to hide -
/come back from moutainOriginally posted by Moonstriker:.........
hey, gotta say i am original right? hahaha -
/me feeling garang..
Pass me the GPMG. 6 more grenades please..
/me bites off safety ring... Throws safety ring... Oops...
Anyway, they told me I won't be doing the actual fighting, just doing reccing, and my weapon is only used for self-defence.. So I am not so sure about me "chioning" and mowing down enemies... Yup, they told me I would be right inside danger. But hey, for someone from Ninja company (in BMTC), stealth shouldn't be hard, eh?? *chuckle* -
First of all, enjoy the bike or jeep course at SOT. There won't be much harassment there. Once you are in SMI, prepared for PT exercise which involves power PT, animal PT, fast march, your bread and butter recce (all sorts of it). Also included will be navigation and operation exercise. There will also be lots of map work. Depending on your luck, you could even turn operational by participating in other unit exercise. I had my last stage of training in Thailand where there was a reservist armour battalion ready to pounce on us. Following that, you will recieve your jungle hats either from the instructor or from your S2. Anyway, just keep your chin up. Your mental power is far more stronger than you think. Think positive and all will go well, afterall no training will last forever.Originally posted by pkchukiss:I've just received my e-Posting, and I realised I've been posted to be a scout (Infantry Recee Trooper). Can anyone tell me what it is like, and what kind of training to expect?
I heard that I get to learn ONE mode of transport (jeep or motorcycle), is that true?
Thank you for your help!
There are some items to bring along for your course:
1) OHP markers (non permanent)
2) survival kit in a small plastic box (sewing kit, fishing line, small watch compass, safety pins, waterproof match, small mirror, fish hooks, comdoms, water purifying tablets, small surgical blades etc)
3) pace counter (if you hate tying knots for navigation)
4) silva compass (even if you are not TC or DY)
5) lots of black tape
6) tatical torchlight (tape up the lens, so that only a small hole remains)
7) ranger eye (get some of those self-luminous strip to sew on the back of your jockey cap)
camouflage stick or cream
9) scarf
10) gloves (half finger)
11) extra water bottles
Items (1-10) should be part of your SBO. Do cultivate the habit to secure every of your items especially the optics and signal equipment if you don't want to sign 1206. Silence all moving parts as sound invites enemies. Use comscord to tie the lens of NVGs to its main body before move out.
During the course when moving out for exercise or training, it is almost exclusively FBO. With FBO, you will need to paint your face including your lips and keep your mouth shut unless you want to paint your teeth.
I was trained under the course commander callsign "dragon". But you people in the later batch are lucky, as far as I know, the frequencies of power PT has decreased. As for combat survival, I guess it will be a washed down version in light of the recent mishap.
Most important is that as long as you tell yourself you can do it, you will be able to do it. Let us all know how you are coping with the training. Welcome to the family, trooper. -
Dude... enjoy your 72 klick topo.
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Congrats...think you wil be still on the move when the battalion camp down for defensive. And dont drop the highly classified comms equip. I think the charge is DB.
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In scout course, you'll learn that:
- Life of a scout is not all glory...
- Getting gold in IPPT doesn't mean you can endure carrying the comm set longer than those who fail/just pass their IPPT.
- You can overstuff your bike with tonnes of equipment, pillion your buddy and still balance
- Your can fall asleep instantously in almost everywhere in the woods in almost any position/posture
- You have to clean your GPMG/carbines even when you didn't shoot..
- you need a battery, some spare batteries, some spare spare batteries and some spare spare spare batteries for your comm/optics to last you for 48 hours....
- Wearing jungle hat only mean you get more bruises and cuts in your head while bashing.
- You still need to strap your helmet at the back of your fullpack even though you are wearing jungle hat...
- Your dun need a torch to shine your way through the woods at night...
-Your insect repellent/mosquito coil is more important that your weapon (depending on how tactical you wan to be)
- Your can cook 101 different style of maggie dishes with combat rations
- Not using the compass will lead you to dire consequences.
- You are always the first to move out and the last to go back to camp.
- Everyone in the unit expect you to run faster than them...
- The TC is often the DY/Basher and sometimes even Signaller, the rest are like shadows....
okay just kidding...... enjoy you course......
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Geez... there is so much stuff to shove along... Am afraid I would lose one of them. But don't think it will be a problem, cos I've got this obsessive need to check my stuff every few minutes...
Anyway, is the full fingered gloves allowed? I am thinking about the broken blisters I am now having (from all the pull-ups I am doing) and trying not to tax myself with injuries... (Definitely not good for anything.)
By the way, is the scout so honourable? I've got people telling me that it is the elite of the battalion, etc. It is almost as if being a scout is like being a commando...?
Well, my first week inside there was quite ok, if not for the fact that I was doing PT the whole week, in addition to the SAR21 conversion course.
My PC introduced us to "Power PT" and made the whole company do it when he was the CDO (starting with small repetitions, like 10), resulting in complaints from my friends in the other platoons of my PC being "too garang".
We had IPPT cat test which I failed (because of my chin-ups, depressed by the 24 reps of the chin-up regime before every meal). So far, everyone in my bunk were relatively garang (compared to those during my BMT), and jumped at most tasks, including area cleaning. However, it was not good enough (25 mins before stand-by), and we were exercised thoroughly. Thank goodness everyone took to it well, and even managed to pass the next inspection, even as the other bunks were ****ed. In fact, I think NOTHING can get the people in my bunk down, even can joke after the push-ups (unnaturally scary to me...)
PS cracks jokes like no one else in the world. Always happy and "on", think he can laugh even when he is sleeping. Sect com is a constant stream, as if he needs to talk to survive (then again, I noticed the same thing with one of the BMTC sect coms who went for the recce course), and I was starting to think he and the BMTC sergeant were buddies... I think I would be just as scary if I were to start doing the same thing to a stranger... Hehe.
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That's a good sign that your coursemates are taking it so well. I am sure you will do fine in that course. The reason for the half finger glove is that it is too hot in Singapore to be wearing the full glove, however at the end of the day, it is really up to your own preference.Originally posted by pkchukiss:Geez... there is so much stuff to shove along... Am afraid I would lose one of them. But don't think it will be a problem, cos I've got this obsessive need to check my stuff every few minutes...
Anyway, is the full fingered gloves allowed? I am thinking about the broken blisters I am now having (from all the pull-ups I am doing) and trying not to tax myself with injuries... (Definitely not good for anything.)
By the way, is the scout so honourable? I've got people telling me that it is the elite of the battalion, etc. It is almost as if being a scout is like being a commando...?
Well, my first week inside there was quite ok, if not for the fact that I was doing PT the whole week, in addition to the SAR21 conversion course.
My PC introduced us to "Power PT" and made the whole company do it when he was the CDO (starting with small repetitions, like 10), resulting in complaints from my friends in the other platoons of my PC being "too garang".
We had IPPT cat test which I failed (because of my chin-ups, depressed by the 24 reps of the chin-up regime before every meal). So far, everyone in my bunk were relatively garang (compared to those during my BMT), and jumped at most tasks, including area cleaning. However, it was not good enough (25 mins before stand-by), and we were exercised thoroughly. Thank goodness everyone took to it well, and even managed to pass the next inspection, even as the other bunks were ****ed. In fact, I think NOTHING can get the people in my bunk down, even can joke after the push-ups (unnaturally scary to me...)
PS cracks jokes like no one else in the world. Always happy and "on", think he can laugh even when he is sleeping. Sect com is a constant stream, as if he needs to talk to survive (then again, I noticed the same thing with one of the BMTC sect coms who went for the recce course), and I was starting to think he and the BMTC sergeant were buddies... I think I would be just as scary if I were to start doing the same thing to a stranger... Hehe.
Whether or not, a vocation is honourable is not that important. What is important is that you do your job and stay alive. Being a recce trooper does require good fitness not only physically but also mentally as we are required to be up in front before the main bulk of our forces arrive. Comparing scout and commandos is akin to comparing apples to oranges. Both vocations have different functions in which the upper echelon decide how to deploy.
Lastly, enjoy your course and set your own SOPs. This is a good time to foster espirt de corps between your team and you. Look forward to the day when you pass out and when you look back at it in time, it will really be worth it. -
Dont forget the PoW training...also call combat survival course.
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Fwah. Infantry recce trooper. Something that I wanted but couldn't become. Sad.
Oh well, I guess I will have to be contented with my 8-6 working hours, and stay out privileges. Oh yeah, as well as once in a blue moon outfields. Heh.
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enjoy ur vocation and freedom in outfields... basically u will attend the bike course if u r chosen to be a signaller in the platoon. if not, u will attend the jeep course... this month-long course is a stay out 8 to 5 course at kaki bukit SDC with the occasional overtime...
after u completed the jeep or bike course, u will go to smi for the ispc after which u will become a scout. this course involves theory lessons and tests, route marches, fast marches, moi also called power pt, open and close country navex, ex longwalk and several mission exercises either at starlight or local. according to the 3rd guards batch, the distance for ex longwalk has been reduced significantly already so it's not much of a worry...
the next course u will hopefully attend is the cst which i'm not sure is still in existent or not... btw the pow treatment is a part of the course and overall the course is not a very good experience for me becos of the death and injuries of my course mates...
next is the one day medic course which u will learn CPR and get certified for three years after u passed the course. before this, u will learn to IV others and u and ur platoon mates will get to poke each other's veins with the IV needles... good luck
that's about all, in between all these courses u will go for ur platoon proficiency test, ur company proficiency test, bn turn-ops exercise, one or two bde exercises and several other training exercises... -
btw r u all doing ndp or saf day ?Originally posted by TVaddict:enjoy ur vocation and freedom in outfields... basically u will attend the bike course if u r chosen to be a signaller in the platoon. if not, u will attend the jeep course... this month-long course is a stay out 8 to 5 course at kaki bukit SDC with the occasional overtime...
after u completed the jeep or bike course, u will go to smi for the ispc after which u will become a scout. this course involves theory lessons and tests, route marches, fast marches, moi also called power pt, open and close country navex, ex longwalk and several mission exercises either at starlight or local. according to the 3rd guards batch, the distance for ex longwalk has been reduced significantly already so it's not much of a worry...
the next course u will hopefully attend is the cst which i'm not sure is still in existent or not... btw the pow treatment is a part of the course and overall the course is not a very good experience for me becos of the death and injuries of my course mates...
next is the one day medic course which u will learn CPR and get certified for three years after u passed the course. before this, u will learn to IV others and u and ur platoon mates will get to poke each other's veins with the IV needles... good luck
that's about all, in between all these courses u will go for ur platoon proficiency test, ur company proficiency test, bn turn-ops exercise, one or two bde exercises and several other training exercises... -
dunno yet, currently on leave until 16 may...Originally posted by wuming78:btw r u all doing ndp or saf day ? -
after atec blk leave?Originally posted by TVaddict:dunno yet, currently on leave until 16 may... -
more trainings and 2 more big ex...Originally posted by wuming78:after atec blk leave? -
even after atec? tot shud be lotsa alerts and ops b and mabbe some overseas ex.Originally posted by TVaddict:more trainings and 2 more big ex... -
still got 2 more major ex, more alert red and maybe go indonesia do ex indopura...
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1st in .... last out .....
grats! at least u'll have a more enjoyable 2 1/2 years compared to some pencil pusher!
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