Who is into submarines here?
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saya! tampah saya di sini!
hmmm.. with the arrival of the sub malysia orders, our own challenger class would be out-classed liao manz.
wonder if RSn has plans for a replacement for the subs? -
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maaf ~double post~
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the ones we have are more for training purpose as spore is very new to submarines...since 1994... so we need to procure those for training ... now we are still learning abt underwater warfare... till we mature in that...we will hav to delay a bit, but sure the plan is thereOriginally posted by foga:saya! tampah saya di sini!
hmmm.. with the arrival of the sub malysia orders, our own challenger class would be out-classed liao manz.
wonder if RSn has plans for a replacement for the subs?... oops...wonder if MSD willl come ask mi go lim kopi or not???
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sgboy2004, the Good Boi
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About submarine moviesOriginally posted by sgboy2004:
The sonar displays depicted in these shows are grossly inaccurate.For those old birds such as me will know that the sonar station in modern SSNs is not like a radar screen picking up blips. Rather, it is a waterfall display with each sonar contact depicted by lines running vertically down the console In Crimson Tide, the sonar screen is like those radar screens used on land.I guess it is to cater to those novices watching the show...At least they will understand what it is. -
The Hunt for Red OctoberOriginally posted by sgboy2004:
Brillant tactic used by Kapitan Ramius in the show's climax. Turning towards the torpedo before it could arm itself! When I first watched it,I thought Ramius was committing suicide! -
dun worry sgboy, i'm sure that's a de-classified news.
the way i see it, the subs were purchased as part of an pre emptive attempt to malaysia's own sub plans( back then) and also to counter thailand's mini aircraft carrier. now since malaysia's submarine's programme has gone full blown , i jus wonder what's next for RSN?Originally posted by sgboy2004:the ones we have are more for training purpose as spore is very new to submarines...since 1994... so we need to procure those for training ... now we are still learning abt underwater warfare... till we mature in that...we will hav to delay a bit, but sure the plan is there... oops...wonder if MSD willl come ask mi go lim kopi or not???
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Originally posted by foga:dun worry sgboy, i'm sure that's a de-classified news.
the way i see it, the subs were purchased as part of an pre emptive attempt to malaysia's own sub plans( back then) and also to counter thailand's mini aircraft carrier. now since malaysia's submarine's programme has gone full blown , i jus wonder what's next for RSN?
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x2Originally posted by Doenitz:About submarine movies
The sonar displays depicted in these shows are grossly inaccurate.For those old birds such as me will know that the sonar station in modern SSNs is not like a radar screen picking up blips. Rather, it is a waterfall display with each sonar contact depicted by lines running vertically down the console In Crimson Tide, the sonar screen is like those radar screens used on land.I guess it is to cater to those novices watching the show...At least they will understand what it is.
the radar screen thing only applies to active sonar, but the ping radiates from the centre, not sweeps -
x2Originally posted by Doenitz:About submarine movies
The sonar displays depicted in these shows are grossly inaccurate.For those old birds such as me will know that the sonar station in modern SSNs is not like a radar screen picking up blips. Rather, it is a waterfall display with each sonar contact depicted by lines running vertically down the console In Crimson Tide, the sonar screen is like those radar screens used on land.I guess it is to cater to those novices watching the show...At least they will understand what it is.
the radar screen thing only applies to active sonar, but the ping radiates from the centre, not sweeps -
haiya best is the ww2 sonar lah....manually turn the hydrophone and listen!!!!1 best! ahahha
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more interested into ICBM lanching subs......the typhoon.........wah lao........terror sia......one fully loaded one can flatten singapore and malayisa...........
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I read in some coffee table book that all(actually two) Sjoormen subs uses CSU 83/ CSU 90 Atlas sonars with integrated consoles.
That's not the latest but not too bad either.
I assume RSN has upgraded all to same standard judging by the size of the VO I saw posted on the builders website. -
they are too expensive to upkeep.Originally posted by snk86:more interested into ICBM lanching subs......the typhoon.........wah lao........terror sia......one fully loaded one can flatten singapore and malayisa...........
besides used for deterance only, otherwise ...... -
i oni know of Kursk......
had to do a research on tt for an assignment -
If you guys are into sub, I recommend books by Michael DiMercurio..
mostly on Seawolf and Los Angeles class..
exciting reads.
Everytime I read them, how I wish I could be part of the crew. -
i recommend "lost subs"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0306811405/002-9259804-5536857?v=glance
can be found in Borders' US military history section. got many errie photos and account of submarine disasters. each time i read i get emotionally stirred, almost suffocating as if you were inside in the trapped sub. very very good. -
Typhoon..? Is that a russian sub? I only know of the Ohio class aka Trident sub in the US navy.Originally posted by snk86:more interested into ICBM lanching subs......the typhoon.........wah lao........terror sia......one fully loaded one can flatten singapore and malayisa........... -
25,000 tons displacement.20 SSN-20s SLBMs.Have not been keeping up with such things,so the Russian Navy still has these monsters?Originally posted by Jazzswing:Typhoon..? Is that a russian sub? I only know of the Ohio class aka Trident sub in the US navy.
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As of 1996 they were sitting pretty in their sub base fully loaded but unable to go out....Originally posted by Doenitz:25,000 tons displacement.20 SSN-20s SLBMs.Have not been keeping up with such things,so the Russian Navy still has these monsters?
By the way,when is the USN NSSN coming out? -
NSSN? u mean Virginia-class?
AFAIK they're still building.
anyone have more info on tt? -
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which will be the ideal submarines to counter the malaysian's? Dophine class; Gotland class or the U214? Now we lack the ability to launch SSM from our boats, tat's a real disadvantage.
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Am reading Tom Clancy's SSN. The book promise to let u have an understanding of operating in a sub, the situations u will be in etc.
I think it really has accomplished that point. Its a gd read for beginners. like me